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SEC - ONE team in top 15
When's the last time that happened?

Pretty remarkable considering how many votes SEC teams get just for being in the SEC.
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That's what happens when a bunch of top 10 teams all play one another...
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Well, the East is terrible. Worse than the Big Ten West, even!

And Auburn and TA&M picked bad times to be upset by unranked teams!
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(11-14-2016 11:41 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  That's what happens when a bunch of top 10 teams all play one another...


LOL - except that other than Alabama, none really were top 10 teams.

The next best teams (Auburn and LSU) lost their premiere OOC games to other P5s.
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(11-14-2016 11:47 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(11-14-2016 11:41 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  That's what happens when a bunch of top 10 teams all play one another...


LOL - except that other than Alabama, none really were top 10 teams.

The next best teams (Auburn and LSU) lost their premiere OOC games to other P5s.

It's just so damn beautiful...

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(11-14-2016 11:49 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  
(11-14-2016 11:47 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(11-14-2016 11:41 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  That's what happens when a bunch of top 10 teams all play one another...


LOL - except that other than Alabama, none really were top 10 teams.

The next best teams (Auburn and LSU) lost their premiere OOC games to other P5s.



It's just so damn beautiful...

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Alabama is far and away the favorite for the NC
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(11-14-2016 11:41 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  That's what happens when a bunch of top 10 teams all play one another...

No just no.

Alabama is the only SEC team that should be in the top 10 this year. I think LSU will prove everyone that they are the second best team in the SEC when they beat Florida. And LSU is in no way a top 10 team this year.

If you really go back and look at how Auburn, Texas A&M, LSU, and Arkansas got ranked so high it's almost funny.

Arkansas's best OOC win was a TCU team that's 5-4 right now.
Auburn's best OOC win was Arkansas State.
LSU's best OOC was an FCS team.
Texas A&M's best OOC win was a 4-6 UCLA team.

Alabama is the best team in the country but the rest of the SEC is not that good this year.
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(11-14-2016 11:47 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(11-14-2016 11:41 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  That's what happens when a bunch of top 10 teams all play one another...


LOL - except that other than Alabama, none really were top 10 teams.

The next best teams (Auburn and LSU) lost their premiere OOC games to other P5s.

Rivalry week will tell us a lot about the SEC this year in my opinion.

Florida State vs Florida
Georgia Tech vs Georgia
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(11-14-2016 01:37 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(11-14-2016 11:41 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  That's what happens when a bunch of top 10 teams all play one another...

No just no.

Alabama is the only SEC team that should be in the top 10 this year. I think LSU will prove everyone that they are the second best team in the SEC when they beat Florida. And LSU is in no way a top 10 team this year.

If you really go back and look at how Auburn, Texas A&M, LSU, and Arkansas got ranked so high it's almost funny.

Arkansas's best OOC win was a TCU team that's 5-4 right now.
Auburn's best OOC win was Arkansas State.
LSU's best OOC was an FCS team.
Texas A&M's best OOC win was a 4-6 UCLA team.

Alabama is the best team in the country but the rest of the SEC is not that good this year.

I guess the bowl games will tell the tale.

Usually, they indicate the SEC is pretty good. Right now, all the objective rankings have the SEC #1. 07-coffee3
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I think the rest of the SEC is still good- perhaps several 10-25 type teams. But only Alabama is worthy of playoff consideration this year.
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(11-14-2016 01:37 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(11-14-2016 11:41 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  That's what happens when a bunch of top 10 teams all play one another...

No just no.

Alabama is the only SEC team that should be in the top 10 this year. I think LSU will prove everyone that they are the second best team in the SEC when they beat Florida. And LSU is in no way a top 10 team this year.

If you really go back and look at how Auburn, Texas A&M, LSU, and Arkansas got ranked so high it's almost funny.

Arkansas's best OOC win was a TCU team that's 5-4 right now.
Auburn's best OOC win was Arkansas State.
LSU's best OOC was an FCS team.
Texas A&M's best OOC win was a 4-6 UCLA team.

Alabama is the best team in the country but the rest of the SEC is not that good this year.

Yes, just yes.
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Why in the world would Auburn schedule 3 top P5 teams every single season and then go through the SEC West gauntlet? That's just dumb. We could play 4 FCS opponents OOC and end up with more quality opponents than you bums! 03-razz
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(11-14-2016 05:15 PM)AubTiger16 Wrote:  Why in the world would Auburn schedule 3 top P5 teams every single season and then go through the SEC West gauntlet? That's just dumb. We could play 4 FCS opponents OOC and end up with more quality opponents than you bums! 03-razz

Too bad the rest of the world is starting to see how untrue that is.
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(11-14-2016 02:12 PM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  I think the rest of the SEC is still good- perhaps several 10-25 type teams. But only Alabama is worthy of playoff consideration this year.
"The rest of the SEC" includes Miss. State and Missouri, so "still good" is probably too strong, but your point is essentially correct as long as you don't go too far with it...

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(11-14-2016 01:55 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-14-2016 01:37 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(11-14-2016 11:41 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  That's what happens when a bunch of top 10 teams all play one another...

No just no.

Alabama is the only SEC team that should be in the top 10 this year. I think LSU will prove everyone that they are the second best team in the SEC when they beat Florida. And LSU is in no way a top 10 team this year.

If you really go back and look at how Auburn, Texas A&M, LSU, and Arkansas got ranked so high it's almost funny.

Arkansas's best OOC win was a TCU team that's 5-4 right now.
Auburn's best OOC win was Arkansas State.
LSU's best OOC was an FCS team.
Texas A&M's best OOC win was a 4-6 UCLA team.

Alabama is the best team in the country but the rest of the SEC is not that good this year.

I guess the bowl games will tell the tale.

Usually, they indicate the SEC is pretty good. Right now, all the objective rankings have the SEC #1. 07-coffee3

Well, let's set this straight. If I came off as saying that the SEC is not a strong conference that's not what I'm alluding to. I think top to bottom the SEC is still the best conference this year. There are just a lot of (decent teams) vs the high number of elite teams we are accustomed to. Back in 2008-2013 I would have taken the 3rd SEC team over just about any team in the country.

But this year LSU, Auburn, Florida, Texas A&M could all easily lose to the 4th best Big 10 team. None of them would be favored against Ohio State, Michigan, or Wisconsin.

But that goes back to my point, which is it's not a bunch of top 10 teams beating each other. Like someone else said Missouri, South Carolina, Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, Miss State, Kentucky, are all far from elite...I would not call Arkansas, Tennessee, or LSU elite this year either.
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Alabama is top 4. I can see Auburn as top 10. LSU maybe top 15. Who else?

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(11-14-2016 05:27 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(11-14-2016 05:15 PM)AubTiger16 Wrote:  Why in the world would Auburn schedule 3 top P5 teams every single season and then go through the SEC West gauntlet? That's just dumb. We could play 4 FCS opponents OOC and end up with more quality opponents than you bums! 03-razz

Too bad the rest of the world is starting to see how untrue that is.

Do we need to go over this again?

I won't even do 10 years Ill go 20+. Sick of the BS you keep spouting.

1992- Alabama vs Miami (SEC Champion)
1993- Florida State vs Nebraska
1994- Nebraska vs Miami
1995- Nebraska vs Florida (SEC in Championship game)
1996- Florida vs Florida State (SEC Champion)
1997- Nebraska vs Tennessee (SEC in Championship game)
1998- Tennessee vs Florida State (SEC Champion)
1999- Florida State vs Virginia Tech
2000- Oklahoma vs Florida State
2001- Miami vs Nebraska
2002- Ohio State vs Miami
2003- LSU vs Oklahoma (SEC Champion)
2004- USC vs Oklahoma
2005- Texas vs USC

Now last 10 years:

2006- Florida vs Ohio State (SEC Champion)
2007- LSU vs Ohio State (SEC Champion)
2008- Florida vs Oklahoma (SEC Champion)
2009- Alabama vs Texas (SEC Champion)
2010- Auburn vs Oregon (SEC Champion)
2011- Alabama vs LSU (Both SEC Teams obvious SEC Champion)
2012- Alabama vs Notre Dame (SEC Champion)
2013- Florida State vs Auburn (SEC in Championship game)
2014- Alabama is the playoffs.
2015- Alabama vs Clemson (SEC Champion)


So what are you trying to say? How many PAC 12 teams have done anything in the last 20+ years?

The SEC isn't a 1 team pony but with Saban at Alabama he is making EVERYONE look bad. He has set a standard that only the best coach at one of the best programs in the history of college football can set.

We have had numerous teams compete for and win the title.

Since 1992- The SEC has 12 National Championships.
Since 1992- the SEC has had 16 teams in the National Championship game.

Not just 1 team. LSU, Alabama, Auburn, Florida and Tennessee.

Just quit with your bs.

The PAC 12 has had 3 teams play in the title game. Then you had a split AP champion. (Not the BCS champion which is the champion that played in and won the Official Championship game). If you want respect earn it.
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(11-14-2016 01:42 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(11-14-2016 11:47 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(11-14-2016 11:41 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  That's what happens when a bunch of top 10 teams all play one another...


LOL - except that other than Alabama, none really were top 10 teams.

The next best teams (Auburn and LSU) lost their premiere OOC games to other P5s.

Rivalry week will tell us a lot about the SEC this year in my opinion.

Florida State vs Florida
Georgia Tech vs Georgia

No it won't. The CFP and Bowl Season will tell us a lot more. I'm not so sure that outside of Alabama that the Big 10 and PAC will do that well in bowls. The Clemson Auburn game was a mismatch that Auburn, prior to the emergence of Pettway, and prior to the selection of a starting QB, played a lot closer than the talent gap would have indicated.

L.S.U. vs Wisconsin was hardly the L.S.U. that has emerged with the handcuffs off of the offense.

So if your gauge is Georgia / Georgia Tech that's likely to be a pick'em. Either way it won't say much about the SEC or ACC. I expect F.S.U. to be favored in the Florida game although it should be much closer this year.

The bowls will provide much better indications of conference strength. This year the SEC probably won't be playing up in most of the match ups.

And for whoever it was that quipped about Auburn and A&M they both either lost or suffered serious injuries to QB's, RB's, WR's, or two or all.

And when Illinois and Southern Cal actually start producing in non conference match ups I'll start giving you the benefit of the doubt. I think USC got woodshedded big time to open the season, and many SEC schools have played the Tide much closer since. As for Illinois you have to love a fan of a perennial doormat who talks smack.
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(11-14-2016 05:27 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(11-14-2016 05:15 PM)AubTiger16 Wrote:  Why in the world would Auburn schedule 3 top P5 teams every single season and then go through the SEC West gauntlet? That's just dumb. We could play 4 FCS opponents OOC and end up with more quality opponents than you bums! 03-razz

Too bad the rest of the world is starting to see how untrue that is.

What the rest of the world is seeing is just how woeful and awful the PAC really is. When Leach wins the PAC with a squad that lost to Portland State and Boise State who do think it will be that the rest of the world will be seeing differently? I don't think it will be the SEC or Alabama!

The PAC is sucking wind. Oregon is terrible, Stanford is down, Washington blew a game to an middling Trojan squad, U.C.L.A. has not yet returned to form (it's been three decades and we are all still waiting), Cal has tanked, Utah and Colorado are your best hopes of at least being competitive in a bowl, Rich Rod is stealing money at Arizona and calling it coaching, A.S.U. is pedestrian at best, and the Beavers are starting to fade.

Add terrible attendance, lousy ratings, and low revenue to your other attributes and I'd say if it weren't for the continental divide you would be the conference being raided out of existence and the Big 12 would be surviving.

I bet the biggest Washington State fans in the world right now reside in West Virginia. If the Eers win out they have a shot at the PAC's slot.

We could be looking at a CFP that has Alabama for the SEC, the winner of Ohio State / Michigan for the Big 10 (PSU will get snubbed no matter what), and Louisville from the ACC. If Clemson stumbles once more WVU gets in provided they win out, IMO.

Until then Trojan Campaign I'll just take you as a smack talking fan of a conference who suffered against the G5 and FCS this year and is just desirous of schadenfreude.
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No team outside Alabama is great this year.
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