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RE: Is it safe to go the game tonight?
(11-15-2016 08:11 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(11-15-2016 07:47 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(11-12-2016 11:15 PM)BeerCat Wrote:  The dumb **** was wearing a t shirt with a conferderate flag on it under his uniform. This guy is a first class moron.

The only detail that I read was that a confederate flag was on the shirt. That doesn't necessarily mean it was a red-and-blue stars and bars t-shirt. It could have just been a Civil War t-shirt from Gettysburg National Park for all we know.

Of course since they didn't give any more details then we're left to speculate.


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This is the t-shirt in question. Tensing testified he is required to wear a black t-shirt under his uniform. He got this shirt while on a trip to Gatlinburg. It was simply next up in the rotation in his t-shirt drawer.

Oh wow. I stand corrected. What a moron.
 
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I better get rid of all my union jack t-shirts. I don't want to be accused of being a loyalist to King George.
 
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RE: Is it safe to go the game tonight?
(11-15-2016 05:03 PM)doss2 Wrote:  Normally get off I75 at Mitchell then south on Vine through the hood. Friday going the safe way via Hopple exit to University Ave. to Vine then south to Corry Garage

i used to live there. side street off vine a block away from the ritchie's. it looks rougher than it is, and to me it doesn't really look rough. but i mean, i wouldn't recommend walking around at night.

as for ray tensing's shirt, he wanted the one with the confederate flag on it. of all the ****** tourist shirts, it had to be the confederate flag. not to start another topic, (i hate those people) i don't mind people defending that flag, just as long as they admit they're condoning racism.


anyways, i once saw a guy when we hiking outside damascus, va wearing a shirt that said; waterboarding: baptizing terrorists with freedom. my friends and i snickered. i should have patronizingly asked to take a photo with him. but i'm a coward
 
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(11-17-2016 12:38 PM)Lush Wrote:  
(11-15-2016 05:03 PM)doss2 Wrote:  Normally get off I75 at Mitchell then south on Vine through the hood. Friday going the safe way via Hopple exit to University Ave. to Vine then south to Corry Garage

i used to live there. side street off vine a block away from the ritchie's. it looks rougher than it is, and to me it doesn't really look rough. but i mean, i wouldn't recommend walking around at night.

as for ray tensing's shirt, he wanted the one with the confederate flag on it. of all the ****** tourist shirts, it had to be the confederate flag. not to start another topic, (i hate those people) i don't mind people defending that flag, just as long as they admit they're condoning racism.


anyways, i once saw a guy when we hiking outside damascus, va wearing a shirt that said; waterboarding: baptizing terrorists with freedom. my friends and i snickered. i should have patronizingly asked to take a photo with him. but i'm a coward

I wish you had found out where he bought it.
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought he testified that the shirt was a gift that his relatives brought back from Gatlinburg. I could see keeping it to wear under my uniform since the black undershirt was a requirement but not supplied by the department.
 
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Why any police officer would risk being seen in that, with what is going on in this country is beyond me. Even if he is not a racist, he is just plain stupid. And I for one would love to see people with the power to police show enough common sense to not wear something like that ever. I just don't think police officer is a job where we can afford to set the bar that low.
 
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(11-12-2016 06:15 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  
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(11-12-2016 05:28 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  It's just so hard to convict an officer is anything. Certain People just accept whatever they say as fact.

Actually not entirely true in this case. All 12 voted to convict, they just couldn't agree on the charge. From what they've shown the public I can't blame them. He's guilty, but murder? That's a high bar.

The video shows his life was not in danger, he shot the guy in the head, and then lied about it. I'm sure drunks don't mean to hit you head-on and kill you, but they get convicted of vehicular homicide.

The prosecutor presented exactly zero information regarding the chain of custody of the evidence. The video cam used fingerprints the video using an MD5 hashcode. MD5 was partially broken 15 years ago and 7 years ago NIST strongly recommended that MD5 never be used again. The prosecution's main weapon was the video, but it can in no way be verified.

I have testified as an expert on the authenticity of video's that use fingerprints and if the video is "verified" using MD5, it is a slam dunk to get the judge to throw it out.
 
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The coroner testified that Dubose died as soon as he was shot causing his foot to push the accelerator down thus the car moved forward after he was shot.

Tensing testified that he commanded Dubose the "stop, stop" because Dubose was fleeing the stop and felt he was in danger of being run over.

The prosecutor says no way was the car moving when he was shot.

The car was an automatic transmission. Most people drive with one foot. If Dubose was not fleeing and the car was not moving, how did the car get into drive? If Dubose was not fleeing the car would not have moved when he was shot?
 
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(11-17-2016 03:18 PM)BeerCat Wrote:  I just don't think police officer is a job where we can afford to set the bar that low.

We already set the bar that low. Do you know the salary and hours (as in night and weekend shifts) required of a police officer? Who wants to do that job, even without getting into the high class of people you encounter at work?
 
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(11-17-2016 03:18 PM)BeerCat Wrote:  Why any police officer would risk being seen in that, with what is going on in this country is beyond me. Even if he is not a racist, he is just plain stupid. And I for one would love to see people with the power to police show enough common sense to not wear something like that ever. I just don't think police officer is a job where we can afford to set the bar that low.

Would a Muslim police officer be "plain stupid" if he wore a "Free Palestine" Tshirt under his uniform? Or a country music loving officer who wears a David Allen Coe Tshirt under his uniform? Or how about a "right leaning" officer who wears a Trump Tshirt under his uniform? (Trump is clearly racist, misogynist, homophobic, etc).

I wouldn't wear a confederate flag Tshirt simply because I care about the feelings of my black buddies. But I also seem to recall a TV show that starred a bright Orange Dodge Charger with a huge confederate flag painted on the roof. I don't recall any public outrage when that "plain stupid" show was #1 in the ratings.

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If he was Gay and was wearing lace undies would it be an issue?

If it were a female officer and she had a sexually explicit saying on her undies?
 
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The so-called "Confederate Flag" was not the official flag of the Confederate States of America. The flag referred to is actually the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia commanded by General Robert E. Lee.

Why does ignorance of history have any bearing on guilt or innocence in a murder trial?
 
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Remember to avoid the hood on Vine from Mitchell tonight
 
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(11-18-2016 02:19 PM)QSECOFR Wrote:  The so-called "Confederate Flag" was not the official flag of the Confederate States of America. The flag referred to is actually the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia commanded by General Robert E. Lee.

Why does ignorance of history have any bearing on guilt or innocence in a murder trial?

Right and the swastika was originally an ancient Hindu symbol right? Who the hell cares? Again I'm not talking about legal and illegal here. I honestly don't care what happens to Ray Tensing one way or the other. I'm talking about common sense. He appears to have none. Wearing that shirt under your police uniform while all the country is talking about is race is a terrible decision. Again, it does not make him guilty or innocent, just makes him stupid and personally, I would like to think that the people who we give the power to police to would show better judgement.
 
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On the one hand it is stupid to wear that shirt, on the other, it's still just a shirt... People get worked up about any stupid thing it seems.
 
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(11-18-2016 02:19 PM)QSECOFR Wrote:  The so-called "Confederate Flag" was not the official flag of the Confederate States of America. The flag referred to is actually the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia commanded by General Robert E. Lee.

Why does ignorance of history have any bearing on guilt or innocence in a murder trial?

Because that flag all but disappeared after the Civil War until it was resurrected as a symbol of "southern pride" (racism) during the civil rights movement.

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The low probative value of that shirt vs. the prejudicial nature of its admission as evidence leads me to conclude it shouldn't have been admitted, but I guess that's why I'm not a judge.
 
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I'm talking about common sense. He appears to have none. Wearing that shirt under your police uniform while all the country is talking about is race is a terrible decision. Again, it does not make him guilty or innocent, just makes him stupid and personally, I would like to think that the people who we give the power to police to would show better judgement.
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Someone here posted that Ray Tensing is a "panicky idiot, not a murderer".

I would probably add "boot licker" to that description, based simply on the comparatively high number of vehicle/ped stops that he made. Usually this amount of officer initiated activity is the symptom of one of two things. 1. Butt Kisser who is trying to "impress the lieutenant" or 2. Lazy slug who is stopping cars/peds continuously in order to stay "out of service" so that his fellow officers have to handle all of the shoplifter/child molest/sexual assault calls occurring in his beat.

With regard to "better judgement"... Tensing was hired by the Ohio State Highway Patrol. Per media information, Tensing quit the police academy after one day. I believe that the OSP is a "stress academy" compared to the "kindercare academies" here in Southwest Ohio. The fellow deselected himself from the OSP in ONE DAY. The "better judgement" responsibility FAIL occurred in the U of Cincinnati Human Resources Department and/or police department.

Joe Deters is a smug, insufferable, Ahole that I hesitatingly voted for. But I agree 100% with his statement that Ray Tensing should have never been a police officer. I also agree with Deters that the U of Cincinnati has no business being in the "police business" and that law enforcement responsibilities should be contracted to the Ham County Sheriff.

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I agree with all of that. In the mean time, that wasn't murder. It was absolutely homicide and he should be punished. Whether it was reckless, negligent, or voluntary is up for debate. But it wasn't murder. Deters is an idiot for steadfastly going after that.
 
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