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RE: Ultimate Conspiracy Theory: dems threw the election to setup 2020?????
One has to assume the Democrats are certain Trump will fail. With the House and Senate on his side he has the best chance to succeed of any Republican President in nearly a century. Despite what anyone thinks of Trump's temperament and personality, that's a pretty big risk to take. If he does succeed, then he could usher in a decade or two of Republican dominance.

I don't think the Demos threw this election, I think they are now hoping Trump fails though, and plan to do all they can to vilify and obstruct him. That's what political parties do to their opponents.
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(11-10-2016 10:14 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  You know what happens in 2020, right??

The plan:

- Let Trump run amok for his four years.
- Build the anger towards him and repubs
- Huge dem wins in 2020
- Gerrymander the hell out of the districts


Also: dems have firm commitments from current SC justices that they'll hang on for the next four years, barring extreme health problems.

So Trump will only get one nominee, who is likely to be left of Scalia anyway.



Think on it ...

*FOTFL*.. I've heard some extreme conspiracy nut theories.. but that's way out there!! That's almost desperation..

"We knew we werent going to win, but we're going to spend millions and billions to make it look otherwise".
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Isn't it great when the leftist poster here post their crap now we can just laugh at it and smile knowing we won.
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(11-10-2016 10:25 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(11-10-2016 10:23 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The dems would be wise to listen to the voters instead of trying to force their will on the people.

Trump has a mandate. The people have given him the whitehouse, house, and senate.

Obama had a mandate as well. He blew it. But, we gave him his chance. You will give Trump his chance as well.

No ... the SYSTEM gave DJT the White House. The PEOPLE voted for HRC.
the SYSTEM gave the GOP the US House. The PEOPLE voted for the Dems.

Don't tell people to shut up because we had an election when they did show up and the party with the most votes didn't win. The candidate with the second most votes 'won'. The people did speak. They chose Hillary.

Fail.

THE PEOPLE gave republicans THE HOUSE.

THE PEOPLE gave republicans THE SENATE.

Just because you run up the vote total in cali, because republicans dont vote there as much because they know their vote doesnt count, stop doing a dance on the 35 yard line. The people gave Trump a mandate. Get over it. You guys hda your unprecedented opportunity at a mandate, and blew it. Obama had his opportunity to listen to the voters over the past 8 year s and pivot from the ridiculous liberal policies, and but he failed.
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(11-10-2016 10:41 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  
(11-10-2016 10:25 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(11-10-2016 10:23 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The dems would be wise to listen to the voters instead of trying to force their will on the people.

Trump has a mandate. The people have given him the whitehouse, house, and senate.

Obama had a mandate as well. He blew it. But, we gave him his chance. You will give Trump his chance as well.

No ... the SYSTEM gave DJT the White House. The PEOPLE voted for HRC.
the SYSTEM gave the GOP the US House. The PEOPLE voted for the Dems.

Don't tell people to shut up because we had an election when they did show up and the party with the most votes didn't win. The candidate with the second most votes 'won'. The people did speak. They chose Hillary.

WRONG !!!! Electoral College has Zero to do with the House !01-wingedeagle

More people voted for Dems than for GOPers for US House.
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Not enough obviously!! Just saying..
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Again, there's the legitimacy problem. We understood that in 2000, that this was a fluke and rules are rules...

But this is twice in 16 years.

You guys DIDN'T get more votes. If you try to govern like you did, you're going to have a lot of pushback. And it would be justified.
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(11-10-2016 10:36 AM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  
(11-10-2016 10:18 AM)dbacard Wrote:  seems like the only things the Dems should be working on is how to get rid of the electoral college since it screwed them twice

As long as they remain clustered in a relatively few states, it will continue to screw them. What they need to be doing is moving to the swing states en bloc.

Well their bad economic policies are forcing them to move out of California. They've infected Washington, Nevada, Arizona and Colorado. They've turned Washington into a solid blue future economic disaster. They have made Nevada, Colorado and Arizona swing states.
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Why are people posting maps -- each person in the country gets the same vote, regardless if they live in a city or in the backwoods.

If a million people who live at a single address vote one way and 990,000 who all live one mile from their nearest neighbor vote another way, the million win.
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(11-10-2016 10:47 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  Isn't it great when the leftist poster here post their crap now we can just laugh at it and smile knowing we won.

A more realistic theory would be that Pence has been bought and will resign. Trump will appoint Hillary as V-P, resign and make Hillary president.
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(11-10-2016 10:21 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(11-10-2016 10:18 AM)dbacard Wrote:  seems like the only things the Dems should be working on is how to get rid of the electoral college since it screwed them twice

Yea...the GOP is pretending like they won an mandate....They'd be wise to recognize that they won an electoral college vote, but the lost the actual vote.
The House
The Senate
The Presidency
31 Governors
70 state legislative houses
Unicameral Nebraska
Both houses in 30 states

I guess maybe there is a Democrat dog catcher left
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Well, there's the stupidest thing I've read all day. And that's saying something.

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(11-10-2016 10:21 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(11-10-2016 10:18 AM)dbacard Wrote:  seems like the only things the Dems should be working on is how to get rid of the electoral college since it screwed them twice

Yea...the GOP is pretending like they won an mandate....They'd be wise to recognize that they won an electoral college vote, but the lost the actual vote.

I know it doesn't matter to you, but HRC's popular vote title was really due to one state - Cali. This so called "mandate" thing that both sides likes to throw around needs to be considered with respect to both the number of voters secured AND the number of states won. Trump will have won over 25 states, with MI likely to come into the fold. He dominated in number of states.
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(11-10-2016 10:51 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Again, there's the legitimacy problem. We understood that in 2000, that this was a fluke and rules are rules...

But this is twice in 16 years.

You guys DIDN'T get more votes. If you try to govern like you did, you're going to have a lot of pushback. And it would be justified.

Nobody but the far left think there is any sort of legitimacy problem. Even HRC, who loves to change the rules after the fact, isn't complaining. Everyone knew California and New York had to be ignored. And California didn't even have a Republican running for Senate, so that further depressed Republican turnout there.
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Can please get on with " the peaceful transfer of power ".
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(11-10-2016 10:55 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(11-10-2016 10:51 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Again, there's the legitimacy problem. We understood that in 2000, that this was a fluke and rules are rules...

But this is twice in 16 years.

You guys DIDN'T get more votes. If you try to govern like you did, you're going to have a lot of pushback. And it would be justified.

Nobody but the far left think there is any sort of legitimacy problem. Even HRC, who loves to change the rules after the fact, isn't complaining. Everyone knew California and New York had to be ignored. And California didn't even have a Republican running for Senate, so that further depressed Republican turnout there.

I'm all for 1 party Kalifornia leaving the Union. I look forward to watching it turn into the new Cuba.
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(11-10-2016 10:48 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(11-10-2016 10:41 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  
(11-10-2016 10:25 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(11-10-2016 10:23 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The dems would be wise to listen to the voters instead of trying to force their will on the people.

Trump has a mandate. The people have given him the whitehouse, house, and senate.

Obama had a mandate as well. He blew it. But, we gave him his chance. You will give Trump his chance as well.

No ... the SYSTEM gave DJT the White House. The PEOPLE voted for HRC.
the SYSTEM gave the GOP the US House. The PEOPLE voted for the Dems.

Don't tell people to shut up because we had an election when they did show up and the party with the most votes didn't win. The candidate with the second most votes 'won'. The people did speak. They chose Hillary.

WRONG !!!! Electoral College has Zero to do with the House !01-wingedeagle

More people voted for Dems than for GOPers for US House.

unfortunately for you, we dont allow Chicago and california to vote on our Tennessee lawmakers, much to your chagrin.
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(11-10-2016 10:48 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(11-10-2016 10:41 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  
(11-10-2016 10:25 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(11-10-2016 10:23 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The dems would be wise to listen to the voters instead of trying to force their will on the people.

Trump has a mandate. The people have given him the whitehouse, house, and senate.

Obama had a mandate as well. He blew it. But, we gave him his chance. You will give Trump his chance as well.

No ... the SYSTEM gave DJT the White House. The PEOPLE voted for HRC.
the SYSTEM gave the GOP the US House. The PEOPLE voted for the Dems.

Don't tell people to shut up because we had an election when they did show up and the party with the most votes didn't win. The candidate with the second most votes 'won'. The people did speak. They chose Hillary.

WRONG !!!! Electoral College has Zero to do with the House !01-wingedeagle

More people voted for Dems than for GOPers for US House.

Tom, You can put the pipe down now, The election was 2 days ago and every state elects it's own 2 Senators and respective number of Congressmen or Congresswomen. Signed, the Deplorable's. Even We know that !
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(11-10-2016 10:54 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-10-2016 10:21 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(11-10-2016 10:18 AM)dbacard Wrote:  seems like the only things the Dems should be working on is how to get rid of the electoral college since it screwed them twice

Yea...the GOP is pretending like they won an mandate....They'd be wise to recognize that they won an electoral college vote, but the lost the actual vote.
The House - DEMS WON THE RAW VOTE NATIONALLY FOR US HOUSE
The Senate - DEMS WON THE RAW VOTE NATIONALLY FOR US SENATE
The Presidency - DEMS WON THE RAW VOTE NATIONALLY FOR PRESIDENT
31 Governors - OKAY.
70 state legislative houses - SOME ARE JUST AS BAD AS THE US HOUSE
Unicameral Nebraska
Both houses in 30 states -

I guess maybe there is a Democrat dog catcher left

The GOP has little legitimacy.

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(11-10-2016 12:50 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  
(11-10-2016 10:48 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(11-10-2016 10:41 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  
(11-10-2016 10:25 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(11-10-2016 10:23 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The dems would be wise to listen to the voters instead of trying to force their will on the people.

Trump has a mandate. The people have given him the whitehouse, house, and senate.

Obama had a mandate as well. He blew it. But, we gave him his chance. You will give Trump his chance as well.

No ... the SYSTEM gave DJT the White House. The PEOPLE voted for HRC.
the SYSTEM gave the GOP the US House. The PEOPLE voted for the Dems.

Don't tell people to shut up because we had an election when they did show up and the party with the most votes didn't win. The candidate with the second most votes 'won'. The people did speak. They chose Hillary.

WRONG !!!! Electoral College has Zero to do with the House !01-wingedeagle

More people voted for Dems than for GOPers for US House.

Tom, You can put the pipe down now, The election was 2 days ago and every state elects it's own 2 Senators and respective number of Congressmen or Congresswomen. Signed, the Deplorable's. Even We know that !

The GOP controls the House via a gerrymander. They don't have a mandate because the Dems got more votes for US House.

The GOP also LOST the popular vote to the Dems for President.

The GOP also LOST the raw vote for US Senate.

Look, don't pretend you guys have a mandate. You don't.
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