(10-27-2016 11:21 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Unless the CFP and Peach, Fiesta & Cotton grant a tie-in and gives up an at-large spot. Then there is no P6. G5 is determined as the group of conferences without a "major" tie-in. These are where the terms come from. There a feeble attempt by trying to call them A5 for autonomy but ESPN, CBS & Fox never really let it catch on.

In my opinion, we don't have to become a P6 for this effort to be successful. Its successful if we simply cease to be viewed as part of the G5. If the effort has us significantly separated from the rest of the G5 financially---along with perhaps maybe one guaranteed decent Liberty/Texas/Gator level bowl opportunity that is suitable for the league champion---that's a success in my mind. I doubt there any real chance of being a P6, but I do believe there is certainly a chance to separate from the rest of the G5 to become sort of in-between tier. I could see the league being sort of the BYU of conferences.

(10-27-2016 11:38 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 11:21 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Unless the CFP and Peach, Fiesta & Cotton grant a tie-in and gives up an at-large spot. Then there is no P6. G5 is determined as the group of conferences without a "major" tie-in. These are where the terms come from. There a feeble attempt by trying to call them A5 for autonomy but ESPN, CBS & Fox never really let it catch on.

In my opinion, we don't have to become a P6 for this effort to be successful. Its successful if we simply cease to be viewed as part of the G5. If the effort has us significantly separated from the rest of the G5 financially---along with perhaps maybe one guaranteed decent Liberty/Texas/Gator level bowl opportunity that is suitable for the league champion---that's a success in my mind. I doubt there any real chance of being a P6, but I do believe there is certainly a chance to separate from the rest of the G5 to become sort of in-between tier. I could see the league being sort of the BYU of conferences.

We could become the "Almost Powerful 1".

(10-27-2016 05:41 AM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 04:47 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(10-26-2016 05:28 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(10-26-2016 05:19 PM)L-yes Wrote:  "The potential of becoming... is within grasp". I will meditate on the meaning of this profound mystery and when I descend from the mountaintop I will divine it unto you.

Are you a Louisville fan? You were here not long ago.

It's funny how Louisville fans and the Rutgers fan enjoy coming over here, as if they slammed the door behind them. It's like you need us for validation.

The need for validation is universal. It's a human condition for which there is no cure. It's the reason you guys constantly bash CUSA. It somehow makes one feel better to proclaim his superiority over somebody, or make that ANYBODY.

Really? CUSA is the worst conference in FBS this year. How is it bashing to say so?

You don't bash CUSA because we're the worst rated FBS conference (we are so far, but there's lots of football left to play). No, you bash CUSA because it somehow makes you feel better about yourself after P5 conferences bash the AAC. Like I said earlier, it is a human condition that exists so I don't hold it against anybody. I've seen people from every conference, including ours, do the very same thing.

(10-27-2016 04:49 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 05:41 AM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 04:47 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(10-26-2016 05:28 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(10-26-2016 05:19 PM)L-yes Wrote:  "The potential of becoming... is within grasp". I will meditate on the meaning of this profound mystery and when I descend from the mountaintop I will divine it unto you.

Are you a Louisville fan? You were here not long ago.

It's funny how Louisville fans and the Rutgers fan enjoy coming over here, as if they slammed the door behind them. It's like you need us for validation.

The need for validation is universal. It's a human condition for which there is no cure. It's the reason you guys constantly bash CUSA. It somehow makes one feel better to proclaim his superiority over somebody, or make that ANYBODY.

Really? CUSA is the worst conference in FBS this year. How is it bashing to say so?

You don't bash CUSA because we're the worst rated FBS conference (we are so far, but there's lots of football left to play)...

Dude... I don't know how to break it to you, but the season is 9 weeks in, or 2/3 done.

There's NOT "a lot of football left to play."
But, thanks for stopping by.

(10-27-2016 04:49 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 05:41 AM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 04:47 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(10-26-2016 05:28 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(10-26-2016 05:19 PM)L-yes Wrote:  "The potential of becoming... is within grasp". I will meditate on the meaning of this profound mystery and when I descend from the mountaintop I will divine it unto you.

Are you a Louisville fan? You were here not long ago.

It's funny how Louisville fans and the Rutgers fan enjoy coming over here, as if they slammed the door behind them. It's like you need us for validation.

The need for validation is universal. It's a human condition for which there is no cure. It's the reason you guys constantly bash CUSA. It somehow makes one feel better to proclaim his superiority over somebody, or make that ANYBODY.

Really? CUSA is the worst conference in FBS this year. How is it bashing to say so?

You don't bash CUSA because we're the worst rated FBS conference (we are so far, but there's lots of football left to play). No, you bash CUSA because it somehow makes you feel better about yourself after P5 conferences bash the AAC. Like I said earlier, it is a human condition that exists so I don't hold it against anybody. I've seen people from every conference, including ours, do the very same thing.

CUSA vs CUSA is not going to improve the conference ranking. I agree with your other points.

(10-27-2016 11:30 AM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 07:54 AM)L-yes Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 12:05 AM)fishpro1098 Wrote:  

(10-26-2016 10:04 PM)L-yes Wrote:  

(10-26-2016 09:52 PM)fishpro1098 Wrote:  I think he means being able to achieve without using hookers and having your coach on the front pages for banging a waitress. That kind of taste. But I could be wrong and maybe this is just my interpretation of what 'achievement a matter of taste' means.

A little humility may be in order for some of these successful P5 programs, yours included.


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I know, it's crazy how far a streetwalker can take your program. I'd like to thank Katina personally for gaining us entry to the ACC. Also to the crazy lady who Pitino banged. She was instrumental. Anyone been beaten to death around campus lately?

No, but you can come by a take a look for yourself if you want. I'll point out the streets you should go down.


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No thanks. I've avoided that cesspool since temple was the only program to be forcibly removed from a power conference for failing so minserably.

A Louisville fan talking city smack over a Temple fan. You sir are a moron.

Really? When was the last time you read a newspaper for something other than the comics?

(10-27-2016 07:35 PM)L-yes Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 11:30 AM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 07:54 AM)L-yes Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 12:05 AM)fishpro1098 Wrote:  

(10-26-2016 10:04 PM)L-yes Wrote:  I know, it's crazy how far a streetwalker can take your program. I'd like to thank Katina personally for gaining us entry to the ACC. Also to the crazy lady who Pitino banged. She was instrumental. Anyone been beaten to death around campus lately?

No, but you can come by a take a look for yourself if you want. I'll point out the streets you should go down.


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No thanks. I've avoided that cesspool since temple was the only program to be forcibly removed from a power conference for failing so minserably.

A Louisville fan talking city smack over a Temple fan. You sir are a moron.

Really? When was the last time you read a newspaper for something other than the comics?

Good one Cleetus!

Lyes is a good poster...no need to attack the man (or woman, just to be safe)

(10-27-2016 09:31 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Lyes is a good poster...no need to attack the man (or woman, just to be safe)

A bit arrogant for my taste.


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(10-27-2016 07:13 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 04:49 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 05:41 AM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 04:47 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(10-26-2016 05:28 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  Are you a Louisville fan? You were here not long ago.

It's funny how Louisville fans and the Rutgers fan enjoy coming over here, as if they slammed the door behind them. It's like you need us for validation.

The need for validation is universal. It's a human condition for which there is no cure. It's the reason you guys constantly bash CUSA. It somehow makes one feel better to proclaim his superiority over somebody, or make that ANYBODY.

Really? CUSA is the worst conference in FBS this year. How is it bashing to say so?

You don't bash CUSA because we're the worst rated FBS conference (we are so far, but there's lots of football left to play). No, you bash CUSA because it somehow makes you feel better about yourself after P5 conferences bash the AAC. Like I said earlier, it is a human condition that exists so I don't hold it against anybody. I've seen people from every conference, including ours, do the very same thing.

CUSA vs CUSA is not going to improve the conference ranking. I agree with your other points.

Bowl game results will determine the final rating of G5 conferences. CUSA has six bowl games (maybe seven if we have that many bowl eligible teams), in which we'll be matched up with P5 conference, or other G5 conference opponents. There will be no doubt who the worst conference is after those bowl games are played. We shall see.

(10-27-2016 09:31 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Lyes is a good poster...no need to attack the man (or woman, just to be safe)

Yeah, um no.

Tulane rocking P6 helmet stickers this week

(10-27-2016 11:38 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 11:21 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Unless the CFP and Peach, Fiesta & Cotton grant a tie-in and gives up an at-large spot. Then there is no P6. G5 is determined as the group of conferences without a "major" tie-in. These are where the terms come from. There a feeble attempt by trying to call them A5 for autonomy but ESPN, CBS & Fox never really let it catch on.

In my opinion, we don't have to become a P6 for this effort to be successful. Its successful if we simply cease to be viewed as part of the G5. If the effort has us significantly separated from the rest of the G5 financially---along with perhaps maybe one guaranteed decent Liberty/Texas/Gator level bowl opportunity that is suitable for the league champion---that's a success in my mind. I doubt there any real chance of being a P6, but I do believe there is certainly a chance to separate from the rest of the G5 to become sort of in-between tier. I could see the league being sort of the BYU of conferences.

I tend to agree that we dont have to become P6, but get some level of seperation. To do that, I personally believe we need to expand but I doubt it will happen. even though I am no Boise St fan, I think the addition of them and BYU would seal the deal for all of us.

For the AAC to move forward, we need to work with ESPN and then other tv Partners to get somewhere near the $6 million mark on our next tv deal and it needs to only run till 2025. So lets sign something next year for a 7-8 year deal.
Second, I would like to see some sort of setup where we get a tie in to the Cotton Bowl. I doubt this will happen, and if it does I dont think it would till the playoff is expanded.
Third, and I think has some level of potential is for the playoff money to have 3 tiers. A real argument can be made that there is as big a difference of the AAC being from the P5 as it is from the G4. We are the middle ground. Right now, each of the G5 gets about $1.4 million per school for the playoff, while the P5 gets $55 million, plus $6 million for each playoff team selected... plus bowl money which is typically $20-40 million for the Sugar, Rose and Orange. Essentially just playoff money each team makes about $5 million compared to our $1.4. If I am the AAC we attempt to form an "Emerging P6" type status and ask for 50% of the P5 payout, or roughly $2.5 million.... which is double the G5.

So essentially if we can get the $6 million tv, half the distribution of the P5 playoff then well be at $8.5 million, plus bowl money and NCAA tourney credits... which should land us at total revenue of roughly $11-12 million... or half what the ACC gets. To me, that would be a HUGE step toward credibility and would give us enough financial strength to hold onto our coaches, hire better assistants and to grow over the next 8 years.