An interesting thing I noticed looking at the standings -- at this moment in time, we are the only conference in the FBS that doesn't have any teams with less than 3 wins. Hell, Kansas and Iowa State of the mighty Big 12 don't even have 3 wins between them, with their combined 2 wins coming against 3-7 San Jose State and 1-8 FCS Rhode Island.

Taking our 4 teams that have sucked it up the most in conference, let's look at how they fared against the P5:

Tulane - Loss to Wake Forest 7-3

Cincinnati - Win over Purdue 38-20

UConn - Win over Virginia 13-10, Loss to Syracuse 31-24

East Carolina - Win over NC State 33-30, Loss to South Carolina 20-15, Loss to #19 Virginia Tech 54-17

Record of our bottom 4 vs P5 = 3-4

If you take Virginia Tech out of the equation, distilling it to P5 conference bottom dwellers, we are 3-3. Our other 3 losses to P5 teams were by a combined 16 points. Our conference is solid from top to bottom, and the bottom half of our league is as good as the bottom half of any P5 league. Unlike the other G5 leagues, our bottom dwellers are still able to consistently get wins against the P5.

The only thing keeping us from being a power league is landing a team in the CFP and controlling the access bowl bid on a regular basis. I think we are on our way to eventually doing that. If we can land 3 teams in the top 25 with one of those in the top 10 a few times, we might be able to earn the title of power conference (if realignment doesn't tear us apart).

If you took Clemson and Louisville out of the ACC this year, would the ACC be any better than the AAC? I would argue no. We just need our top programs to separate themselves from the rest of the league.

(11-05-2016 03:26 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  If you took Clemson and Louisville out of the ACC this year, would the ACC be any better than the AAC? I would argue no. We just need our top programs to separate themselves from the rest of the league.

Absolutely horrible assessment. The highest ranked American team by FPI ratings is Houston at #32. Florida State, North Carolina, Virginia Tech, Miami and Pittsburgh all are ranked higher. Even without Clemson and Louisville (which is stupid argument anyways, what if you took Houston and Navy away from the American?), the ACC is much better than the American.

The "only thing" keeping this conference from being a "power" conference is the same thing that always keeps this conference from being a power conference...$16 Million/school/year.

(11-05-2016 03:37 PM)Tech Savy Wrote:  

(11-05-2016 03:26 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  If you took Clemson and Louisville out of the ACC this year, would the ACC be any better than the AAC? I would argue no. We just need our top programs to separate themselves from the rest of the league.

Absolutely horrible assessment. The highest ranked American team by FPI ratings is Houston at #32. Florida State, North Carolina, Virginia Tech, Miami and Pittsburgh all are ranked higher. Even without Clemson and Louisville (which is stupid argument anyways, what if you took Houston and Navy away from the American?), the ACC is much better than the American.

My point was that we need to get better at the top, but that the bottom of our conference actually compares favorably to the power conferences. Now go troll somewhere else.

And I actually meant to post this on the AAC board. Oh well.

(11-05-2016 03:59 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(11-05-2016 03:37 PM)Tech Savy Wrote:  

(11-05-2016 03:26 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  If you took Clemson and Louisville out of the ACC this year, would the ACC be any better than the AAC? I would argue no. We just need our top programs to separate themselves from the rest of the league.

Absolutely horrible assessment. The highest ranked American team by FPI ratings is Houston at #32. Florida State, North Carolina, Virginia Tech, Miami and Pittsburgh all are ranked higher. Even without Clemson and Louisville (which is stupid argument anyways, what if you took Houston and Navy away from the American?), the ACC is much better than the American.

My point was that we need to get better at the top, but that the bottom of our conference actually compares favorably to the power conferences. Now go troll somewhere else.

Then you should have said that. You said "If you took Clemson and Louisville out of the ACC this year, would the ACC be any better than the AAC? I would argue no."

That was an inaccurate assessment and you were called out for it...

UC is one of our crappy teams now.