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NCAA Conference requirement loophole?
I've been trying to find a loophole in the NCAA bylaws that would allow for conferences to play in pods without a rule change.

Is there any explicit prohibition against belonging to more than one conference in a single sport? I've been trying to find the direct link to the current bylaws on single sport conferences. I was thinking it might be a loophole for creating pods in football:
For Example:
Atlantic Conference:
- North Division: Syracuse, BC, Pitt, L'ville
- Central Division: UVA, VT, Duke, UNC, NCSt, WF

Coastal Conference:
- Central Division: UVA, VT, Duke, UNC, NCSt, WF
- South Division: Clemson, GT, Miami, FSU

Scheduling:
- Central: 5 division games, 2 vs North, 2 vs South
- North: 3 division games, 3 vs Central, 3 vs South
- South: 3 Division games, 3 vs Central, 3 vs North

Conference Championships (there are 10 schools in each conference)
- Atlantic: North #1 vs Central (#1 or #2, avoid rematch)
- Coastal: South #1 vs Central (#1 or #2, avoid rematch)

This gives an extra 30M for a second CCG and I think would give the best chance of advancing 2 schools to the CFP by having two conference champs.
11-05-2016 12:50 PM
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RE: NCAA Conference requirement loophole?
Since neither of those "conferences" would be a party to the CFP, wouldn't that lump the ACC champs in with the independents? Also, I suppose it would also cost the league their share of the playoff money. Each team would only get the same $300K that Army gets instead of close to $5 million.

That's a big sacrifice to make just to have an extra CCG, which ESPN might not pay much for anyway.
11-05-2016 01:34 PM
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RE: NCAA Conference requirement loophole?
There is no loophole for pods in football. Even if there was, there won't be any conference wanting a 3 division setup. It doesn't work.

You can have a single sport in multiple conferences if that conference doesn't sponsor a sport. Take Air Force, they have 27 teams and play in multiple conferences. But you must be in a conference that meets the NCAA conference requirements...which is sponsor basketball and 2 team sports.
The only division that allows football as a separate entity is the FCS level.
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RE: NCAA Conference requirement loophole?
(11-05-2016 02:12 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  There is no loophole for pods in football. Even if there was, there won't be any conference wanting a 3 division setup. It doesn't work.

Thanks on the single sport football restriction to FCS. That kills the loophole.

As for 3 vs 4 pods/divisions, 3 with a wildcard is way better for increasing interest across the season in a wildcard race that involves all the divisions and which allows power tandems (tOsU/Mich, UT/OU) to be put in the same pod for scheduling purposes while allowing a path for both to enter the conference semifinal. The pro leagues all employ the wildcard.
11-05-2016 04:21 PM
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RE: NCAA Conference requirement loophole?
I'm not sure if this is exactly what you are talking about but... 6 Ivy League schools play hockey in the ECAC. The Ivy League crowns its champion based on the results of the play against Ivy League schools only. I doubt the NCAA recognizes the Ivy League champions for post season tournaments.

I don't believe there are any restrictions on realigning divisions. The best scenario I have heard is to have 4 pods (A, B, C, D) and realign every 2 years (so everyone has a home-home with teams in their "division."

Years 1-2: Division 1 = A&B, Division 2 = C&D
Years 3-4: Division 1 = A&C, Division 2 = B&D
Years 5-6: Division 1 = A&D, Division 2 = B&C
11-06-2016 01:58 PM
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