(11-02-2016 11:53 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  IMO, Auburn has surprised in a good way this season, and deserve to be Top 10.

OTOH, based on the "eye test" I'd say Louisville is deserving, but they haven't had many opportunities to impress (in hindsight, scheduling Charlotte and @Marshall in the first 4 games probably wasn't the best plan).

I'm not sure I can criticize Jurich for those two. Charlotte is bad, but is FBS. I believe Louisivlle is the only ACC without an FCS team on their schedule, so hard to complain about Charlotte compared to the South Carolina St, Liberty, or Charleston Southern body bag game that we all played.

Marshall was a combined 33-8 the past three seasons, and picked 3rd in their division this season. Who had them at 2-6 right now? I just don't see how you slam scheduling those two, unless you say that UofL should have played 4 teams that are either P5 or ranked to start the year (Houston).

A&M lost to bama by nineteen and have one solid win against Auburn. What makes them deserving of 4? Tennessee was thought to have been good but we can see now that is a train wreck. So, someone please justify it for me.

(11-02-2016 01:20 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  

(11-02-2016 11:53 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  IMO, Auburn has surprised in a good way this season, and deserve to be Top 10.

OTOH, based on the "eye test" I'd say Louisville is deserving, but they haven't had many opportunities to impress (in hindsight, scheduling Charlotte and @Marshall in the first 4 games probably wasn't the best plan).

I'm not sure I can criticize Jurich for those two. Charlotte is bad, but is FBS. I believe Louisivlle is the only ACC without an FCS team on their schedule, so hard to complain about Charlotte compared to the South Carolina St, Liberty, or Charleston Southern body bag game that we all played.

Marshall was a combined 33-8 the past three seasons, and picked 3rd in their division this season. Who had them at 2-6 right now? I just don't see how you slam scheduling those two, unless you say that UofL should have played 4 teams that are either P5 or ranked to start the year (Houston).

Let's be honest, Charleston Southern would roll Charlotte, and Liberty would give them a good game with about a 40% chance of winning that game. Charlotte is a middle of the road FCS team with more scholarships.

(11-02-2016 01:30 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(11-02-2016 01:20 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  

(11-02-2016 11:53 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  IMO, Auburn has surprised in a good way this season, and deserve to be Top 10.

OTOH, based on the "eye test" I'd say Louisville is deserving, but they haven't had many opportunities to impress (in hindsight, scheduling Charlotte and @Marshall in the first 4 games probably wasn't the best plan).

I'm not sure I can criticize Jurich for those two. Charlotte is bad, but is FBS. I believe Louisivlle is the only ACC without an FCS team on their schedule, so hard to complain about Charlotte compared to the South Carolina St, Liberty, or Charleston Southern body bag game that we all played.

Marshall was a combined 33-8 the past three seasons, and picked 3rd in their division this season. Who had them at 2-6 right now? I just don't see how you slam scheduling those two, unless you say that UofL should have played 4 teams that are either P5 or ranked to start the year (Houston).

Let's be honest, Charleston Southern would roll Charlotte, and Liberty would give them a good game with about a 40% chance of winning that game. Charlotte is a middle of the road FCS team with more scholarships.

This is definitely missing the forest for the trees. My point was, and still is, Louisville essentially replaced a FCS on the schedule with a team that is .500 in Conference USA as of November 1st. Charlotte wasn't in addition to a FCS, it was in place of a FCS, so arguing who might win a matchup between bad teams isn't worth our time nor is it my main point.

(11-02-2016 01:27 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  A&M lost to bama by nineteen and have one solid win against Auburn. What makes them deserving of 4? Tennessee was thought to have been good but we can see now that is a train wreck. So, someone please justify it for me.

Agreed - they look overrated to me also. I was only defending Auburn.

(11-02-2016 01:40 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  

(11-02-2016 01:30 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(11-02-2016 01:20 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  

(11-02-2016 11:53 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  IMO, Auburn has surprised in a good way this season, and deserve to be Top 10.

OTOH, based on the "eye test" I'd say Louisville is deserving, but they haven't had many opportunities to impress (in hindsight, scheduling Charlotte and @Marshall in the first 4 games probably wasn't the best plan).

I'm not sure I can criticize Jurich for those two. Charlotte is bad, but is FBS. I believe Louisivlle is the only ACC without an FCS team on their schedule, so hard to complain about Charlotte compared to the South Carolina St, Liberty, or Charleston Southern body bag game that we all played.

Marshall was a combined 33-8 the past three seasons, and picked 3rd in their division this season. Who had them at 2-6 right now? I just don't see how you slam scheduling those two, unless you say that UofL should have played 4 teams that are either P5 or ranked to start the year (Houston).

Let's be honest, Charleston Southern would roll Charlotte, and Liberty would give them a good game with about a 40% chance of winning that game. Charlotte is a middle of the road FCS team with more scholarships.

This is definitely missing the forest for the trees. My point was, and still is, Louisville essentially replaced a FCS on the schedule with a team that is .500 in Conference USA as of November 1st. Charlotte wasn't in addition to a FCS, it was in place of a FCS, so arguing who might win a matchup between bad teams isn't worth our time nor is it my main point.

You did say "Charlotte is bad but FBS", then went on to say U of L was the only ACC team without an FCS team. So you, at least the way I took it, were saying that Charlotte is better than a Charleston Southern because they are FBS. Sure they may be FBS but when you are talking about schedules I think the comparisons have to be made. Which would bring back my point that even though CSU is FCS they are much better than Charlotte. Just throwing that out there.

My last comment on this specific point. If you aren't playing North Dakota St, I highly suspect the committee sees FCS and ends any discussion there when deciding on SOS. And quite frankly, everyone in the ACC and SEC at least has 1 body bag game, and I doubt the committee spends much time reviewing those.

(11-02-2016 01:00 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  I know everyone has been sitting on the edge of their seats for this so here it comes,, the top 25 according to Lenvillecards!

1 Alabama
2 Clemson
3 Michigan
4 Washington
5 Ohio State
6 Louisville
7 A&M
8 Wisconsin
9 Nebraska
10 Florida
11 WV
12 Auburn
13 Oklahoma
14 LSU
15 Penn St
16 Utah
17 Baylor
18 NC
19 FSU
20 Oklahoma St
21 VT
22 Colorado
23 WMU
24 Boise St
25 Houston

Ughh...

(11-02-2016 01:20 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  

(11-02-2016 11:53 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  IMO, Auburn has surprised in a good way this season, and deserve to be Top 10.

OTOH, based on the "eye test" I'd say Louisville is deserving, but they haven't had many opportunities to impress (in hindsight, scheduling Charlotte and @Marshall in the first 4 games probably wasn't the best plan).

I'm not sure I can criticize Jurich for those two. Charlotte is bad, but is FBS. I believe Louisivlle is the only ACC without an FCS team on their schedule, so hard to complain about Charlotte compared to the South Carolina St, Liberty, or Charleston Southern body bag game that we all played.

Marshall was a combined 33-8 the past three seasons, and picked 3rd in their division this season. Who had them at 2-6 right now? I just don't see how you slam scheduling those two, unless you say that UofL should have played 4 teams that are either P5 or ranked to start the year (Houston).

I personally had Washington at 4, Ohio State at 5, Louisville at 6, and Texas A&M at 7.

Louisville 100% passes the eye test and I have stated that plenty of times. I am only saying that for everyone who looks at #4 and says Washington should be there, there are just as many reasons for Texas A&M to be there. To me the only sure fire teams at this point are Bama and Clemson. Bama still has some challenges but they have earned their spot without a doubt.

3-7 are all interchangeable in my opinion and 8-10 maybe 13 all have a chance to make some magic happen and deserve to be where they are.

Like I said I wasn't "Hating" on you. I wanted to know why you thought it exactly and you answered. Love the convo here compared the CS&CR board.

(11-02-2016 02:57 PM)AubTiger16 Wrote:  

(11-02-2016 01:20 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  

(11-02-2016 11:53 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  IMO, Auburn has surprised in a good way this season, and deserve to be Top 10.

OTOH, based on the "eye test" I'd say Louisville is deserving, but they haven't had many opportunities to impress (in hindsight, scheduling Charlotte and @Marshall in the first 4 games probably wasn't the best plan).

I'm not sure I can criticize Jurich for those two. Charlotte is bad, but is FBS. I believe Louisivlle is the only ACC without an FCS team on their schedule, so hard to complain about Charlotte compared to the South Carolina St, Liberty, or Charleston Southern body bag game that we all played.

Marshall was a combined 33-8 the past three seasons, and picked 3rd in their division this season. Who had them at 2-6 right now? I just don't see how you slam scheduling those two, unless you say that UofL should have played 4 teams that are either P5 or ranked to start the year (Houston).

I personally had Washington at 4, Ohio State at 5, Louisville at 6, and Texas A&M at 7.

Louisville 100% passes the eye test and I have stated that plenty of times. I am only saying that for everyone who looks at #4 and says Washington should be there, there are just as many reasons for Texas A&M to be there. To me the only sure fire teams at this point are Bama and Clemson. Bama still has some challenges but they have earned their spot without a doubt.

3-7 are all interchangeable in my opinion and 8-10 maybe 13 all have a chance to make some magic happen and deserve to be where they are.

Like I said I wasn't "Hating" on you. I wanted to know why you thought it exactly and you answered. Love the convo here compared the CS&CR board.

Tiger I think it's just splitting hairs between a bunch of these teams. Auburn at 9 isn't ridiculous by any means & a strong case can be made for it. One could put forth a strong argument for a number of scenarios right now. I am a little puzzled with A&M be 4 though. You have presented strong arguments.

Top 10 CFP action so far. Note the committee seems obsessed with opponent records, even if the opponent is clearly a .500 or better fraud such as Maryland and Minnesota.

#4 Texas A&M: 35-28 road loss to a 3-5 Miss St
#7 Louisville: 52-7 road win over 4-4 BC
#8 Wisconsin: 21-7 road win over 4-4 Northwestern
#9 Auburn: 23-16 home win over 4-4 Vandy

Among the top 10 thus far today, I see a lot of opponents around .500 and only one team that was dominant. We'll see what the committee says on Tuesday however. I noticed that at the end of the Auburn game, the announcers stated that the committee should view their performance as a "quality win". Hmm, if that performance counts as quality, are we counting Louisville's 7 point road win vs UVA as quality?

How teams are getting credit for beating Maryland is baffling. Yes, they are 5-3, but their wins are Purdue, Michigan State, FIU, UCF, and Howard. Good grief.

Minnesota is the same at 6-2. Their 6 wins have come against Rutgers, Illinois, Maryland, Oregon State, Colorado State, and Indiana State.

(11-05-2016 02:36 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Top 10 CFP action so far. Note the committee seems obsessed with opponent records, even if the opponent is clearly a .500 or better fraud such as Maryland and Minnesota.

#4 Texas A&M: 35-28 road loss to a 3-5 Miss St
#7 Louisville: 52-7 road win over 4-4 BC
#8 Wisconsin: 21-7 road win over 4-4 Northwestern
#9 Auburn: 23-16 home win over 4-4 Vandy

Among the top 10 thus far today, I see a lot of opponents around .500 and only one team that was dominant. We'll see what the committee says on Tuesday however. I noticed that at the end of the Auburn game, the announcers stated that the committee should view their performance as a "quality win". Hmm, if that performance counts as quality, are we counting Louisville's 7 point road win vs UVA as quality?

How in the heck would Vandy be considered a quality win?

I think A&M just proved the point to the CFP committee that they aren't a top 4 team, everyone else in America knew it but them. A&M at 4 was a joke.

(11-05-2016 04:18 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(11-05-2016 02:36 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Top 10 CFP action so far. Note the committee seems obsessed with opponent records, even if the opponent is clearly a .500 or better fraud such as Maryland and Minnesota.

#4 Texas A&M: 35-28 road loss to a 3-5 Miss St
#7 Louisville: 52-7 road win over 4-4 BC
#8 Wisconsin: 21-7 road win over 4-4 Northwestern
#9 Auburn: 23-16 home win over 4-4 Vandy

Among the top 10 thus far today, I see a lot of opponents around .500 and only one team that was dominant. We'll see what the committee says on Tuesday however. I noticed that at the end of the Auburn game, the announcers stated that the committee should view their performance as a "quality win". Hmm, if that performance counts as quality, are we counting Louisville's 7 point road win vs UVA as quality?

How in the heck would Vandy be considered a quality win?

I think A&M just proved the point to the CFP committee that they aren't a top 4 team, everyone else in America knew it but them.

Like I said. I don't even think the committee cared.

They literally went based off of resumes and SOS it seems and based off that Texas A&M at 4 or 5 or 6 was fine. Now with that loss it's a game changer.

College Card is spouting this same thread on the Realignment board. Remember in conference games anything can happen. That's why I told you Len I will never hold close wins against a team in conference. Ever. Just win!

Louisville beat Duke by 10 and UVA by 7. You have beat 1 ranked opponent and have only 1 great win. You are still #7 in front of teams who have a way better resume' than you due to the eye test. You will probably move up now! Congrats! Louisville just needs to keep winning. Hope Houston and Kentucky win out until they play you and the SOS will go up. It sets up nicely for you.

Auburn @ Alabama
Michigan and Ohio State have to play.
Washington has USC, Arizona State etc..

(11-05-2016 04:23 PM)AubTiger16 Wrote:  

(11-05-2016 04:18 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(11-05-2016 02:36 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Top 10 CFP action so far. Note the committee seems obsessed with opponent records, even if the opponent is clearly a .500 or better fraud such as Maryland and Minnesota.

#4 Texas A&M: 35-28 road loss to a 3-5 Miss St
#7 Louisville: 52-7 road win over 4-4 BC
#8 Wisconsin: 21-7 road win over 4-4 Northwestern
#9 Auburn: 23-16 home win over 4-4 Vandy

Among the top 10 thus far today, I see a lot of opponents around .500 and only one team that was dominant. We'll see what the committee says on Tuesday however. I noticed that at the end of the Auburn game, the announcers stated that the committee should view their performance as a "quality win". Hmm, if that performance counts as quality, are we counting Louisville's 7 point road win vs UVA as quality?

How in the heck would Vandy be considered a quality win?

I think A&M just proved the point to the CFP committee that they aren't a top 4 team, everyone else in America knew it but them.

Like I said. I don't even think the committee cared.

They literally went based off of resumes and SOS it seems and based off that Texas A&M at 4 or 5 or 6 was fine. Now with that loss it's a game changer.

College Card is spouting this same thread on the Realignment board. Remember in conference games anything can happen. That's why I told you Len I will never hold close wins against a team in conference. Ever. Just win!

Louisville beat Duke by 10 and UVA by 7. You have beat 1 ranked opponent and have only 1 great win. You are still #7 in front of teams who have a way better resume' than you due to the eye test. You will probably move up now! Congrats! Louisville just needs to keep winning. Hope Houston and Kentucky win out until they play you and the SOS will go up. It sets up nicely for you.

Auburn @ Alabama
Michigan and Ohio State have to play.
Washington has USC, Arizona State etc..

I'll continue to say that Washington or Ohio State should have been #4. Don't mean to dish Auburn win over Vandy but it's the same as UL beating Duke or Virginia. Or Clemson beating Troy. Those aren't quality wins but they are wins. Close games happen. A&M should fall from the top 10. And yes, Louisville only chance to move up is by teams in front losing, thank you Miss St!

It's a strange year in football, other than the top 3 there really isn't much separation. After you rank a team about 7 or lower you say this team doesn't deserve but who else do I put there. I can see Auburn at 6-7 this week. I wouldn't be surprised if Washington loses at Cal tonight.

(11-05-2016 05:03 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(11-05-2016 04:23 PM)AubTiger16 Wrote:  

(11-05-2016 04:18 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(11-05-2016 02:36 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Top 10 CFP action so far. Note the committee seems obsessed with opponent records, even if the opponent is clearly a .500 or better fraud such as Maryland and Minnesota.

#4 Texas A&M: 35-28 road loss to a 3-5 Miss St
#7 Louisville: 52-7 road win over 4-4 BC
#8 Wisconsin: 21-7 road win over 4-4 Northwestern
#9 Auburn: 23-16 home win over 4-4 Vandy

Among the top 10 thus far today, I see a lot of opponents around .500 and only one team that was dominant. We'll see what the committee says on Tuesday however. I noticed that at the end of the Auburn game, the announcers stated that the committee should view their performance as a "quality win". Hmm, if that performance counts as quality, are we counting Louisville's 7 point road win vs UVA as quality?

How in the heck would Vandy be considered a quality win?

I think A&M just proved the point to the CFP committee that they aren't a top 4 team, everyone else in America knew it but them.

Like I said. I don't even think the committee cared.

They literally went based off of resumes and SOS it seems and based off that Texas A&M at 4 or 5 or 6 was fine. Now with that loss it's a game changer.

College Card is spouting this same thread on the Realignment board. Remember in conference games anything can happen. That's why I told you Len I will never hold close wins against a team in conference. Ever. Just win!

Louisville beat Duke by 10 and UVA by 7. You have beat 1 ranked opponent and have only 1 great win. You are still #7 in front of teams who have a way better resume' than you due to the eye test. You will probably move up now! Congrats! Louisville just needs to keep winning. Hope Houston and Kentucky win out until they play you and the SOS will go up. It sets up nicely for you.

Auburn @ Alabama
Michigan and Ohio State have to play.
Washington has USC, Arizona State etc..

I'll continue to say that Washington or Ohio State should have been #4. Don't mean to dish Auburn win over Vandy but it's the same as UL beating Duke or Virginia. Or Clemson beating Troy. Those aren't quality wins but they are wins. Close games happen. A&M should fall from the top 10. And yes, Louisville only chance to move up is by teams in front losing, thank you Miss St!

It's a strange year in football, other than the top 3 there really isn't much separation. After you rank a team about 7 or lower you say this team doesn't deserve but who else do I put there. I can see Auburn at 6-7 this week. I wouldn't be surprised if Washington loses at Cal tonight.

Lol all I am saying is that in conference games you never know. Especially when you have a target on your back. Like I said. I will not hate on Clemson because of all their close games. Or Louisville because of the Duke/UVA games, or my own team because of Vandy. Wins become tough. These young men have TONS of pressure on them and everyone is out to get them. Just win your games. Win by 1 or win by 50. Things will work themselves out. Each week is different. Louisville destroyed FSU then got beat by Clemson but the FSU played Clemson tough. It's football.

Right now obviously I am happy about Texas A&M losing. They had to lose in order for us to have a chance at the CCG. If they had won out and we beat Bama due to the way the tie breakers are Bama would have gotten the CCG regardless. I wasn't happy they were #4. I can just understand why the committee put them there. Just like I could have understood if Washington or Ohio State or Louisville were there.

The biggest thing to remember is that these initial rankings don't mean anything. Even if a team wins, they can easily be jumped by a team that wins against a higher caliber opponent, you could even drop for struggling against a bad team. It's the committee! The only ones to worry about are the final ones.

So much could change even in the very last week due to CCG upsets, or whatever else. Until then I wouldn't read too much into it. in 2014 Auburn was #3 initially and we finished #19. Did we deserve to be #3 at the time we got the ranking? We 100% did, but at the same time in the final poll did we deserve to be #19? 100% did then too lol.

(11-05-2016 05:56 PM)AubTiger16 Wrote:  

(11-05-2016 05:03 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(11-05-2016 04:23 PM)AubTiger16 Wrote:  

(11-05-2016 04:18 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(11-05-2016 02:36 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Top 10 CFP action so far. Note the committee seems obsessed with opponent records, even if the opponent is clearly a .500 or better fraud such as Maryland and Minnesota.

#4 Texas A&M: 35-28 road loss to a 3-5 Miss St
#7 Louisville: 52-7 road win over 4-4 BC
#8 Wisconsin: 21-7 road win over 4-4 Northwestern
#9 Auburn: 23-16 home win over 4-4 Vandy

Among the top 10 thus far today, I see a lot of opponents around .500 and only one team that was dominant. We'll see what the committee says on Tuesday however. I noticed that at the end of the Auburn game, the announcers stated that the committee should view their performance as a "quality win". Hmm, if that performance counts as quality, are we counting Louisville's 7 point road win vs UVA as quality?

How in the heck would Vandy be considered a quality win?

I think A&M just proved the point to the CFP committee that they aren't a top 4 team, everyone else in America knew it but them.

Like I said. I don't even think the committee cared.

They literally went based off of resumes and SOS it seems and based off that Texas A&M at 4 or 5 or 6 was fine. Now with that loss it's a game changer.

College Card is spouting this same thread on the Realignment board. Remember in conference games anything can happen. That's why I told you Len I will never hold close wins against a team in conference. Ever. Just win!

Louisville beat Duke by 10 and UVA by 7. You have beat 1 ranked opponent and have only 1 great win. You are still #7 in front of teams who have a way better resume' than you due to the eye test. You will probably move up now! Congrats! Louisville just needs to keep winning. Hope Houston and Kentucky win out until they play you and the SOS will go up. It sets up nicely for you.

Auburn @ Alabama
Michigan and Ohio State have to play.
Washington has USC, Arizona State etc..

I'll continue to say that Washington or Ohio State should have been #4. Don't mean to dish Auburn win over Vandy but it's the same as UL beating Duke or Virginia. Or Clemson beating Troy. Those aren't quality wins but they are wins. Close games happen. A&M should fall from the top 10. And yes, Louisville only chance to move up is by teams in front losing, thank you Miss St!

It's a strange year in football, other than the top 3 there really isn't much separation. After you rank a team about 7 or lower you say this team doesn't deserve but who else do I put there. I can see Auburn at 6-7 this week. I wouldn't be surprised if Washington loses at Cal tonight.

Lol all I am saying is that in conference games you never know. Especially when you have a target on your back. Like I said. I will not hate on Clemson because of all their close games. Or Louisville because of the Duke/UVA games, or my own team because of Vandy. Wins become tough. These young men have TONS of pressure on them and everyone is out to get them. Just win your games. Win by 1 or win by 50. Things will work themselves out. Each week is different. Louisville destroyed FSU then got beat by Clemson but the FSU played Clemson tough. It's football.

Right now obviously I am happy about Texas A&M losing. They had to lose in order for us to have a chance at the CCG. If they had won out and we beat Bama due to the way the tie breakers are Bama would have gotten the CCG regardless. I wasn't happy they were #4. I can just understand why the committee put them there. Just like I could have understood if Washington or Ohio State or Louisville were there.

The biggest thing to remember is that these initial rankings don't mean anything. Even if a team wins, they can easily be jumped by a team that wins against a higher caliber opponent, you could even drop for struggling against a bad team. It's the committee! The only ones to worry about are the final ones.

So much could change even in the very last week due to CCG upsets, or whatever else. Until then I wouldn't read too much into it. in 2014 Auburn was #3 initially and we finished #19. Did we deserve to be #3 at the time we got the ranking? We 100% did, but at the same time in the final poll did we deserve to be #19? 100% did then too lol.

We agree on a lot here. The only difference between A&M & Louisville be ranked #4 is that I would've been happy about it but neither deserved it.

I don't think Washington will make playoffs. They have USC, at Washington State, and then Utah or Colorado , maybe USC if Wash makes the PAC 12 title game. They likely to lose at least one of those and their OOC isn't good enough to get in with 1 loss.

I think it will likely be Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State and Michigan. this is based on Ohio State beating Michigan at home, and that being Michigan's only loss, and the perception that Big 10 is the best conference this year.

Okla could possibly sneak in there if they win out against Baylor, West Virginia and Okla State.

it will be interesting to see wut happens if Auburn wins the SEC west and the SEC title, b/c I can't see the com. leaving out a 1 loss Bama team, based on the eye test and Bama / Saban hype in general. could end up with Auburn and Bama in the playoffs.

(11-11-2016 03:51 PM)ClemVegas Wrote:  I don't think Washington will make playoffs. They have USC, at Washington State, and then Utah or Colorado , maybe USC if Wash makes the PAC 12 title game. They likely to lose at least one of those and their OOC isn't good enough to get in with 1 loss.

I think it will likely be Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State and Michigan. this is based on Ohio State beating Michigan at home, and that being Michigan's only loss, and the perception that Big 10 is the best conference this year.

Okla could possibly sneak in there if they win out against Baylor, West Virginia and Okla State.

it will be interesting to see wut happens if Auburn wins the SEC west and the SEC title, b/c I can't see the com. leaving out a 1 loss Bama team, based on the eye test and Bama / Saban hype in general. could end up with Auburn and Bama in the playoffs.

If Clemson loses in the ACC CG, and the above all happens, you could see 2 Big Ten and 2 SEC teams and no other conference in it. (Not likely, but conceivable).

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(11-11-2016 05:49 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(11-11-2016 03:51 PM)ClemVegas Wrote:  I don't think Washington will make playoffs. They have USC, at Washington State, and then Utah or Colorado , maybe USC if Wash makes the PAC 12 title game. They likely to lose at least one of those and their OOC isn't good enough to get in with 1 loss.

I think it will likely be Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State and Michigan. this is based on Ohio State beating Michigan at home, and that being Michigan's only loss, and the perception that Big 10 is the best conference this year.

Okla could possibly sneak in there if they win out against Baylor, West Virginia and Okla State.

it will be interesting to see wut happens if Auburn wins the SEC west and the SEC title, b/c I can't see the com. leaving out a 1 loss Bama team, based on the eye test and Bama / Saban hype in general. could end up with Auburn and Bama in the playoffs.

If Clemson loses in the ACC CG, and the above all happens, you could see 2 Big Ten and 2 SEC teams and no other conference in it. (Not likely, but conceivable).

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I don't see even a 1 loss Clemson being left out unless it's a crazy situation. I still think Clemson with wins over FSU, Louisville, and Auburn would be better than Michigan.

We need an 8 team playoff.

College football is very unforgiving.