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RE: Bowl Eligible teams --- do we get to 80 or not?
so I see 48 BE now. another team at 5-3, 22 at 5-4, and 2 at 5-5. So looking pretty good to have 70 or so teams at least from the 5 wins group plus BE already.

Got 1 team at 4-4 right now
16 teams at 4-5
1 team at 3-5 right now

I'd say we're looking really good at having the 80.
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(11-07-2016 09:49 AM)stever20 Wrote:  so I see 48 BE now. another team at 5-3, 22 at 5-4, and 2 at 5-5. So looking pretty good to have 70 or so teams at least from the 5 wins group plus BE already.

Got 1 team at 4-4 right now
16 teams at 4-5
1 team at 3-5 right now

I'd say we're looking really good at having the 80.

I agree, looking at where we are at the present moment. However, last year looked like there was a good chance as well but many teams that were favored to win choked and did not become bowl eligible. Currently, the MAC has been having teams that can't close out the sixth win. CMU appears to be the best example.
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RE: Bowl Eligible teams --- do we get to 80 or not?
well, got 4 teams where a 5 wins team plays a FCS school. And then another 7 teams that need to beat a 1-2 win team to get #6. So if all 11 of those convert- you're up to 59 teams right there. That's 11/25 of the 5 win teams. I don't think last year was anywhere near like where we are presently by this point.
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(11-07-2016 09:40 AM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  So having Florida reschedule their game with LSU and passing Presbyterian on to USA could get USA into a bowl game. That arrangement may benefit USA nicely.

It still might not work. USA could lose to NMSU and there might be 79 or more conventionally bowl eligible teams. But right now, it looks like LSU handed USA 1.4. million, a home game, and a bowl berth
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RE: Bowl Eligible teams --- do we get to 80 or not?
Reposting. I made this a while ago on another board but these are the top APR schools, in order, that have a likely or reasonable chance to go 5-7.

Duke (3-6)
Northwestern (4-5)
Vandy (4-5)
Army (5-4)
Georgia Tech (5-4)
North Texas (4-5)
UCF (5-4)
Illinois (3-6)
Boston College (4-5)
Indiana (5-4)
Utah St (3-6)
Missouri (2-7)
Maryland (5-4)
Mich St (2-7)
Notre Dame (3-6)
Kansas St (5-4)
Syracuse (4-5)
UCLA (3-6)
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RE: Bowl Eligible teams --- do we get to 80 or not?
I think we get 11 teams from the SEC with Missouri, Miss St, and the loser of Vandy/Ole Miss being left out
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Quote:I think we get 11 teams from the SEC with Missouri, Miss St, and the loser of Vandy/Ole Miss being left out

Difficulty with that, though for Ole Miss to get in, is they're going to lose to Texas A&M. So they'll need to beat BOTH Vandy & Miss State.

If they do tho, which is very possible, there's a Big Chance Miss State doesn't get in. Miss State has #1 Alabama (LOSS) + Arkansas (Highly Likely Loss). Miss State would basically need to upset Arkansas.
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(11-07-2016 09:30 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  
Quote:I think we get 11 teams from the SEC with Missouri, Miss St, and the loser of Vandy/Ole Miss being left out

Difficulty with that, though for Ole Miss to get in, is they're going to lose to Texas A&M. So they'll need to beat BOTH Vandy & Miss State.

If they do tho, which is very possible, there's a Big Chance Miss State doesn't get in. Miss State has #1 Alabama (LOSS) + Arkansas (Highly Likely Loss). Miss State would basically need to upset Arkansas.
FPI gives Mississippi State a 55% chance of beating Arkansas. Disagree with the exact number if you want, but "highly likely loss" is a pretty big overstatement.

Combine that with Chad Kelly's season-ending injury, and I think Mississippi State has a decent chance of getting to a bowl.
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Bowl Eligible teams --- do we get to 80 or not?
Vanderbilt losing to Missouri really hurt their chances. Even if they were to upset UT, they need to beat Ole Miss as well.

Ole Miss has to play Mississippi State, who now has no margin for error. It looks like the best the SEC can do is send Mississippi State and either Vanderbilt or Ole Miss, but at least one of those three will be eliminated.


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so got 59 BE teams right now
another 19 BE teams with 5 wins

so 78 teams looking really good. Only 2 of those 5 win teams is 5-6 right now(Miami Oh and Akron)
only 32 teams eliminated right now. So Got 91 teams determined. Got 37 teams left to determine to get 21 more teams. Looking extremely likely that we'll have at least 80.
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RE: Bowl Eligible teams --- do we get to 80 or not?
(11-13-2016 02:34 AM)stever20 Wrote:  so got 59 BE teams right now
another 19 BE teams with 5 wins

so 78 teams looking really good. Only 2 of those 5 win teams is 5-6 right now(Miami Oh and Akron)
only 32 teams eliminated right now. So Got 91 teams determined. Got 37 teams left to determine to get 21 more teams. Looking extremely likely that we'll have at least 80.

I only see 58 eligible. Who am I missing?

ACC 9
PAC 6
B12 4
B1G 7
SEC 8
AAC 7
MWC 5
MAC 4
USA 4
SUN 3
IND 1
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RE: Bowl Eligible teams --- do we get to 80 or not?
17 teams could become (conventionally) bowl eligible this week. Four of those seem likely and six seem unlikely. If 4 of the 7 tossups win, we would get to 66 eligible (unless I missed one this week), compared to 71 at the same point last year when we finished with 77.

80 still seems like a long shot.
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Every year a few 4 win teams win out and get to 6 wins as well.
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RE: Bowl Eligible teams --- do we get to 80 or not?
Here's where I see things landing

AAC - Navy, Houston, Tulsa, Memphis, UCF, USF, Temple are in. I think Cincy falters and SMU is a 50/50 (they're playing better teams, but they're playing them at home and they're playing for their bowl lives). Range - between 7 and 8. Projection 8

ACC - Louisville, Wake, Clemson, Florida St, VT, UNC, Pitt, Miami FL, GT are in. NCSU gets in with one win from Miami or @UNC. I think they make it. Duke has to beat @Pitt and @Miami. BC has to beat Uconn and @Wake, Syracuse must beat Florida St and @Pitt. Range - between 9 and 13. Projection 10

B1G - Michigan, Penn State, OH St, Iowa, Minn, Wisc., Neb. are in. MD needs 1 and plays Rutgers. NW needs 1 and plays Illinois. Indiana needs 1 and plays Purdue. Range - between 7 and 10. Projection 10.

Big XII - WVU, OU, OSU, Baylor are in. K-State needs 1 and plays KU. UT needs 1 and plays KU. They're both going. TCU needs 1 from OSU/@UT/KState. Tech needs to beat both @Iowa State and Baylor (I think Baylor is in a free fall). Range - between 5 and 8. Projection 8

CUSA - MTSU, WKU, La Tech, ODU are in. USM must beat 1 from @UNT and La Tech .Charlotte must beat both MTSU and @UTSA. UTSA needs one from Charlotte and @TAMU. UNT needs both USM and @UTEP. While in theory its possible that 8 go, it really looks a lot more like USM/UNT and UTSA/Charlotte are elimination games. I'm going to predict 2 of these 4 figure it out. Range - between 4 and 8. Projection 6.

IND - BYU is in. Army is a lock to qualify unconventionally, but must beat Navy to qualify conventionally. I've got them qualifying unconventionally at this point. ND is still alive but must beat BOTH @Southern Cal and VT to do so. I just don't think ND is that good this year. Range - between 1 and 3. Projection 1 (with Army qualifying unconventionally and being the first pick of the unconventional bowl teams).

MAC - WMU, EMU, Toledo, and Ohio are in. CMU needs 1 from (Ohio/@EMU). Miami(OH) must beat Ball State. Akron must win @Ohio. Ball State must beat @Miami OH and @Toledo. I think CMU and Miami make it. Range 4-8. Projection 6

MWC - SDSU, UNM, Wyoming, Boise, and AFA are in. Colo St needs 1 from (UNM, @SDSU). UNLV must beat @Boise and Nevada to bowl. I'll project CSU getting in. Range 5-7. Projection 6. I also project Hawai'i will beat UMass and @ Fresno to qualify unconventionally (behind Army and USA if they both get to 6-6 - but before any APR teams)

PAC - Utah, WashSt, Wash, USC, Stan., Colo. are in. Ariz State needs 1 and plays Arizona. Cal goes if they win 2 from (@WashSt, UCLA, Stan). UCLA goes if they win both @Cal and USC. It is really unlikely that both UCLA and Cal go. I'm not sold on Cal. So I'm going to project both UCLA and Cal staying home. Range - 6 to 9 teams. Projection 7.

SEC - Alabama, Georgia, Auburn, Florida, TAMU, LSU, Arkansas, Tenn are in. Kentucky needs 1 and plays Austin Peay. So Carolina needs 1 and plays W Carolina. Vandy, Ole Miss, and Miss State are still alive and they play each other. Ole Miss needs 1 from @Vandy/Miss St. Miss State needs both from Ark/@Ole Miss. Vandy needs both from Ole Miss/Tenn. All three can't go. I'll say 1 does (Ole Miss). Range 8-13. Projection 11.

SBC - Idaho, Troy, App are in. Ark State needs to win 1 from @Troy/@ULL/@Texas State. USA qualifies conventionally if they beat both @Idaho and NMSU. USA qualifies unconventionally (spot 2) if they win 2 from Presbyterian/@Idaho/NMSU. Ga Southern must beat @Ga State/Troy. ULL must win 2 from @Ga/Ark State/@ULM. ULM must win both @App/ULL. stAte will make it. USA probably will only do so unconventionally. No one else is likely going. Range 3-8. Projection 4, with USA qualifying unconventionally and taking the second bowl berth.

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Range - 58-95. Projection 77. Army, USA, and Hawai'i bowl and no APR teams do.
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Update after week 11. All day on the road this afternoon, driving Cinci to Kansas City.

American Conference:

Already eligible (7) - Houston, Memphis, Navy South Florida, Temple, Tulsa, UCF
Likely to become eligible (0)
Borderline cases (1) - SMU (projected 5-7)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (1) - Cincinnati
Already ineligible (3) - Connecticut, East Carolina, Tulane

ACC:

Already eligible (9) - Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Louisville, Miami, North Carolina, Pittsburgh, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest
Likely to become eligible (0)
Borderline cases (2) - BC (projected 5-7), NC State (projected 6-6)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (2) - Duke, Syracuse
Already ineligible (1) - Virginia

Big Ten:

Already eligible (7) - Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin
Likely to become eligible (0)
Borderline cases (3) - Indiana, Maryland, Northwestern (all projected 6-6)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (0)
Already ineligible (4) - Illinois, Michigan State, Purdue, Rutgers

Big XII:

Already eligible (4) - Baylor, Oklahoma, OK State, West Virginia
Likely to become eligible (2) - Texas, TCU
Borderline cases (2) - K-State (projected 6-6), Texas Tech (projected 5-7)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (0)
Already ineligible (2) - Iowa State, Kansas

C-USA:

Already eligible (4) - Louisiana Tech, MTSU, Old Dominion, Western Kentucky
Likely to become eligible (0)
Borderline cases (3) - North Texas (both projected 5-7), Southern Miss & UTSA (both projected 6-6)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (1) - Charlotte
Already ineligible (5) - FAU, FIU, Marshall, Rice, UTEP

Independents:

Already eligible (1) - BYU
Likely to become eligible (0)
Borderline cases (2) - Army (projected 6-6, but needs to be 7-5, assuming one win is against FCS Morgan State), Notre Dame (projected 5-7)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (0)
Already ineligible (1) - Massachusetts

MAC:

Already eligible (4) - Eastern Michigan, Ohio University, Toledo, Western Michigan
Likely to become eligible (0)
Borderline cases (3) - Akron (projected 5-7), Central Michigan (projected 6-6), Miami University (projected 6-6)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (1) - Ball State
Already ineligible (4) - Bowling Green, Buffalo, Kent State, Northern Illinois

Mountain West:

Already eligible (5) - Air Force, Boise State, New Mexico, San Diego State, Wyoming
Likely to become eligible (0)
Borderline cases (2) - Colorado State (projected 6-6), UNLV (projected 5-7)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (0)
Already ineligible (5) - Fresno State, Hawaii, Nevada, San Jose State, Utah State

Pac-12:

Already eligible (6) - Colorado, Stanford, USC, Utah, Washington, Washington State
Likely to become eligible (0)
Borderline cases (2) - Arizona State (projected 6-6), UCLA (projected 5-7)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (1) - California
Already ineligible (3) - Arizona, Oregon, Oregon State

SEC:

Already eligible (8) - Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Tennessee, Texas A&M
Likely to become eligible (1) - Ole Miss
Borderline cases (3) - Kentucky (projected 6-6), Mississippi State (projected 5-7), South Carolina (projected 6-6)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (1) - Vanderbilt
Already ineligible (1) - Missouri

Sun Belt:

Already eligible (3) - Appalachian State, Idaho, Troy
Likely to become eligible (1) - Arkansas State
Borderline cases (3) - Georgia Southern & Louisiana-Lafayette (both projected 5-7), South Alabama (projected 6-6 - though needs to be 7-5)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (1) - Louisiana-Monroe
Already ineligible (3) - Georgia State, New Mexico State, Texas State

SUM TOTAL:

58 teams already eligible.
4 teams likely to become eligible.
26 teams that might get eligible (border-line). Of these: 14 projected at having enough wins if they hold serve. 12 are 1 win short if things go as projected (Army, South Alabama, plus the 10 teams projected at 5-7).
8 teams that are doubtful to get eligible but still aren't eliminated.
32 teams already bowl ineligible. This includes a Hawaii team that could still get to 6-7.

Army and South Alabama look pretty good to Bowl if they simply get their 2nd FCS win this week. Hawaii might get in too, if they can win out (at Fresno State and vs. Massachusetts). Looking borderline on needing any 5-7 teams.
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(11-13-2016 06:48 PM)Nittany_Bearcat Wrote:  Update after week 11. All day on the road this afternoon, driving Cinci to Kansas City.

American Conference:

Already eligible (7) - Houston, Memphis, Navy South Florida, Temple, Tulsa, UCF
Likely to become eligible (0)
Borderline cases (1) - SMU (projected 5-7)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (1) - Cincinnati
Already ineligible (3) - Connecticut, East Carolina, Tulane

ACC:

Already eligible (9) - Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Louisville, Miami, North Carolina, Pittsburgh, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest
Likely to become eligible (0)
Borderline cases (2) - BC (projected 5-7), NC State (projected 6-6)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (2) - Duke, Syracuse
Already ineligible (1) - Virginia

Big Ten:

Already eligible (7) - Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin
Likely to become eligible (0)
Borderline cases (3) - Indiana, Maryland, Northwestern (all projected 6-6)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (0)
Already ineligible (4) - Illinois, Michigan State, Purdue, Rutgers

Big XII:

Already eligible (4) - Baylor, Oklahoma, OK State, West Virginia
Likely to become eligible (2) - Texas, TCU
Borderline cases (2) - K-State (projected 6-6), Texas Tech (projected 5-7)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (0)
Already ineligible (2) - Iowa State, Kansas

C-USA:

Already eligible (4) - Louisiana Tech, MTSU, Old Dominion, Western Kentucky
Likely to become eligible (0)
Borderline cases (3) - North Texas (both projected 5-7), Southern Miss & UTSA (both projected 6-6)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (1) - Charlotte
Already ineligible (5) - FAU, FIU, Marshall, Rice, UTEP

Independents:

Already eligible (1) - BYU
Likely to become eligible (0)
Borderline cases (2) - Army (projected 6-6, but needs to be 7-5, assuming one win is against FCS Morgan State), Notre Dame (projected 5-7)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (0)
Already ineligible (1) - Massachusetts

MAC:

Already eligible (4) - Eastern Michigan, Ohio University, Toledo, Western Michigan
Likely to become eligible (0)
Borderline cases (3) - Akron (projected 5-7), Central Michigan (projected 6-6), Miami University (projected 6-6)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (1) - Ball State
Already ineligible (4) - Bowling Green, Buffalo, Kent State, Northern Illinois

Mountain West:

Already eligible (5) - Air Force, Boise State, New Mexico, San Diego State, Wyoming
Likely to become eligible (0)
Borderline cases (2) - Colorado State (projected 6-6), UNLV (projected 5-7)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (0)
Already ineligible (5) - Fresno State, Hawaii, Nevada, San Jose State, Utah State

Pac-12:

Already eligible (6) - Colorado, Stanford, USC, Utah, Washington, Washington State
Likely to become eligible (0)
Borderline cases (2) - Arizona State (projected 6-6), UCLA (projected 5-7)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (1) - California
Already ineligible (3) - Arizona, Oregon, Oregon State

SEC:

Already eligible (8) - Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Tennessee, Texas A&M
Likely to become eligible (1) - Ole Miss
Borderline cases (3) - Kentucky (projected 6-6), Mississippi State (projected 5-7), South Carolina (projected 6-6)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (1) - Vanderbilt
Already ineligible (1) - Missouri

Sun Belt:

Already eligible (3) - Appalachian State, Idaho, Troy
Likely to become eligible (1) - Arkansas State
Borderline cases (3) - Georgia Southern & Louisiana-Lafayette (both projected 5-7), South Alabama (projected 6-6 - though needs to be 7-5)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (1) - Louisiana-Monroe
Already ineligible (3) - Georgia State, New Mexico State, Texas State

SUM TOTAL:

58 teams already eligible.
4 teams likely to become eligible.
26 teams that might get eligible (border-line). Of these: 14 projected at having enough wins if they hold serve. 12 are 1 win short if things go as projected (Army, South Alabama, plus the 10 teams projected at 5-7).
8 teams that are doubtful to get eligible but still aren't eliminated.
32 teams already bowl ineligible. This includes a Hawaii team that could still get to 6-7.

Army and South Alabama look pretty good to Bowl if they simply get their 2nd FCS win this week. Hawaii might get in too, if they can win out (at Fresno State and vs. Massachusetts). Looking borderline on needing any 5-7 teams.

Thanks for this. That is awesome. I hope you are right and no 5-7 teams get in. Time for NCAA to drop 3 bowls right after the season.
Arizona: no tv. Had an all MWC matchup last year. Obviously this Bowl would be first to be dropped in this plan.
Bahamas: I keep hearing people saying 'better get my passport ready"....passport and college football bowl game in the same sentence. Yeah, no. Obvious drop.
There are several bowls created in the past 3 years that can be Bowl #3 that gets axed. When your matchup is AAC #8 vs SB#4 or MAC#5 or CUSA #6? Drop.

Cheers!
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(11-14-2016 10:51 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Thanks for this. That is awesome. I hope you are right and no 5-7 teams get in. Time for NCAA to drop 3 bowls right after the season.
Arizona: no tv. Had an all MWC matchup last year. Obviously this Bowl would be first to be dropped in this plan.
Bahamas: I keep hearing people saying 'better get my passport ready"....passport and college football bowl game in the same sentence. Yeah, no. Obvious drop.
There are several bowls created in the past 3 years that can be Bowl #3 that gets axed. When your matchup is AAC #8 vs SB#4 or MAC#5 or CUSA #6? Drop.

Cheers!

Why 3? Why not 10?

Frankly, it really doesn't bother me if a 5-7 team gets selected any more than it does if a 6-6 team gets in. Once you get past the good seasons (8-4 or better IMO) it doesn't matter much. It's no longer a reward for a good season, it's just an excuse to get your players some swag and your boosters a winter vacation.

The change I would like to see is to allow teams not selected for a bowl to get the same number of extra practices as the teams that are. Clearly, they need the practice time more.
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(11-13-2016 06:48 PM)Nittany_Bearcat Wrote:  Update after week 11. All day on the road this afternoon, driving Cinci to Kansas City.

American Conference:

Already eligible (7) - Houston, Memphis, Navy South Florida, Temple, Tulsa, UCF
Likely to become eligible (0)
Borderline cases (1) - SMU (projected 5-7)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (1) - Cincinnati
Already ineligible (3) - Connecticut, East Carolina, Tulane

ACC:

Already eligible (9) - Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Louisville, Miami, North Carolina, Pittsburgh, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest
Likely to become eligible (0)
Borderline cases (2) - BC (projected 5-7), NC State (projected 6-6)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (2) - Duke, Syracuse
Already ineligible (1) - Virginia

Big Ten:

Already eligible (7) - Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin
Likely to become eligible (0)
Borderline cases (3) - Indiana, Maryland, Northwestern (all projected 6-6)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (0)
Already ineligible (4) - Illinois, Michigan State, Purdue, Rutgers

Big XII:

Already eligible (4) - Baylor, Oklahoma, OK State, West Virginia
Likely to become eligible (2) - Texas, TCU
Borderline cases (2) - K-State (projected 6-6), Texas Tech (projected 5-7)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (0)
Already ineligible (2) - Iowa State, Kansas

C-USA:

Already eligible (4) - Louisiana Tech, MTSU, Old Dominion, Western Kentucky
Likely to become eligible (0)
Borderline cases (3) - North Texas (both projected 5-7), Southern Miss & UTSA (both projected 6-6)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (1) - Charlotte
Already ineligible (5) - FAU, FIU, Marshall, Rice, UTEP

Independents:

Already eligible (1) - BYU
Likely to become eligible (0)
Borderline cases (2) - Army (projected 6-6, but needs to be 7-5, assuming one win is against FCS Morgan State), Notre Dame (projected 5-7)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (0)
Already ineligible (1) - Massachusetts

MAC:

Already eligible (4) - Eastern Michigan, Ohio University, Toledo, Western Michigan
Likely to become eligible (0)
Borderline cases (3) - Akron (projected 5-7), Central Michigan (projected 6-6), Miami University (projected 6-6)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (1) - Ball State
Already ineligible (4) - Bowling Green, Buffalo, Kent State, Northern Illinois

Mountain West:

Already eligible (5) - Air Force, Boise State, New Mexico, San Diego State, Wyoming
Likely to become eligible (0)
Borderline cases (2) - Colorado State (projected 6-6), UNLV (projected 5-7)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (0)
Already ineligible (5) - Fresno State, Hawaii, Nevada, San Jose State, Utah State

Pac-12:

Already eligible (6) - Colorado, Stanford, USC, Utah, Washington, Washington State
Likely to become eligible (0)
Borderline cases (2) - Arizona State (projected 6-6), UCLA (projected 5-7)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (1) - California
Already ineligible (3) - Arizona, Oregon, Oregon State

SEC:

Already eligible (8) - Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Tennessee, Texas A&M
Likely to become eligible (1) - Ole Miss
Borderline cases (3) - Kentucky (projected 6-6), Mississippi State (projected 5-7), South Carolina (projected 6-6)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (1) - Vanderbilt
Already ineligible (1) - Missouri

Sun Belt:

Already eligible (3) - Appalachian State, Idaho, Troy
Likely to become eligible (1) - Arkansas State
Borderline cases (3) - Georgia Southern & Louisiana-Lafayette (both projected 5-7), South Alabama (projected 6-6 - though needs to be 7-5)
Doubtful but not yet eliminated (1) - Louisiana-Monroe
Already ineligible (3) - Georgia State, New Mexico State, Texas State

SUM TOTAL:

58 teams already eligible.
4 teams likely to become eligible.
26 teams that might get eligible (border-line). Of these: 14 projected at having enough wins if they hold serve. 12 are 1 win short if things go as projected (Army, South Alabama, plus the 10 teams projected at 5-7).
8 teams that are doubtful to get eligible but still aren't eliminated.
32 teams already bowl ineligible. This includes a Hawaii team that could still get to 6-7.

Army and South Alabama look pretty good to Bowl if they simply get their 2nd FCS win this week. Hawaii might get in too, if they can win out (at Fresno State and vs. Massachusetts). Looking borderline on needing any 5-7 teams.

One quick note: you list Hawaii already ineligible. Because of the Hawaii exception Hawaii and other MWC schools can finish 6-7 and still be Bowl eligible. 6 wins is the requirement. The 7 loss part doesn't matter in a 13 game schedule. Hypothetically, a 6-8 team could go bowling if they finished 6-7 and made and lost their CCG. It's the 6 wins part that determines Bowl eligibility, not the losses part.
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RE: Bowl Eligible teams --- do we get to 80 or not?
(11-14-2016 11:02 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(11-14-2016 10:51 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Thanks for this. That is awesome. I hope you are right and no 5-7 teams get in. Time for NCAA to drop 3 bowls right after the season.
Arizona: no tv. Had an all MWC matchup last year. Obviously this Bowl would be first to be dropped in this plan.
Bahamas: I keep hearing people saying 'better get my passport ready"....passport and college football bowl game in the same sentence. Yeah, no. Obvious drop.
There are several bowls created in the past 3 years that can be Bowl #3 that gets axed. When your matchup is AAC #8 vs SB#4 or MAC#5 or CUSA #6? Drop.

Cheers!

Why 3? Why not 10?

Frankly, it really doesn't bother me if a 5-7 team gets selected any more than it does if a 6-6 team gets in. Once you get past the good seasons (8-4 or better IMO) it doesn't matter much. It's no longer a reward for a good season, it's just an excuse to get your players some swag and your boosters a winter vacation.

The change I would like to see is to allow teams not selected for a bowl to get the same number of extra practices as the teams that are. Clearly, they need the practice time more.

10 is fine with me. I said 3 due to the number of games impacted by schools that are 5-7 going. It's usually not 10 bowls. I'd be happy to see more dropped.
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RE: Bowl Eligible teams --- do we get to 80 or not?
These extra bowls don't hurt anyone. No reason to make the Sun Belt have a bowl eligible team stay home simply because some other conference team that has all of its be teams bowl is upset.

How about this? If a bowl can't use its tie in for three of five years, then the tie in must be dropped. If they can't qualify for a tie in, then the bowl must be decertified. To add a tie in, a bowl must prove that there's a conference be team that could consistently land there.
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