The announcers mentioned it a couple of times and I tend to agree. I like the fast tempo but at times it just seems to cause problems, especially when we get in the red zone. Are we simply going too fast at times?

- If we do not pick up a first down our defense gets essentially no rest.
- We had several focus oriented penalties on offense that could have been potentially caused by trying to get lined up too fast.
- Consistently missing blocking assignments, again that could be caused by moving too fast and not giving blockers time to evaluate the defense who to block.
- Dropped passes, could be a result of fatigue and lack of focus.

I am just curious what others think? It just seemed like to me there were several mistakes that could have been avoided by just giving the offense an extra second or two to breathe...

I know a lot of passes appear to be high and hard to catch. Of course some of our receivers seem to be having problems catching even well thrown ones.

Maybe you have a point there. Also, the last two games or more, Ferguson has seemed to pass very high.

lol

We give up 60 points & 362 yards rushing and people think the problem is the offense.

We truly are a basketball fan base who is brand new to this football thing.

(10-30-2016 03:38 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  lol

We give up 60 points & 362 yards rushing and people think the problem is the offense.

We truly are a basketball fan base who is brand new to this football thing.

The OP's first statement: - If we do not pick up a first down our defense gets essentially no rest. rings a lot of truth.

Here is the time of possession on series where Memphis had to punt or turnover:

Drive & Time
#1 & 1:04
#3 & 1:37
#4 & 1:07
#6 & 1:23

2nd Half
#2 & 0:45
#3 & 1:34
#5 & 2:19
#6 & 0:09

Something that some fast tempo coaches use that can also kill the clock to either secure lead or to give the D a rest is have the offense rush to line of scrimmage after every play (so defense can't substitute) and still work the clock under 5-10 secs before snapping the ball.

It's

The

Offensive


LINE


It doesn't matter what our pace is

3 and out is 3 and out

The defense has quit though

(10-30-2016 09:04 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  It's

The

Offensive


LINE


It doesn't matter what our pace is

3 and out is 3 and out

The defense has quit though

They are bad. Again, IMO the fast pace really accentuates that. There are several times we get to the line and it appears the line does not have time to really asses the defense and who too block.

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(10-30-2016 08:54 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(10-30-2016 03:38 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  lol

We give up 60 points & 362 yards rushing and people think the problem is the offense.

We truly are a basketball fan base who is brand new to this football thing.

The OP's first statement: - If we do not pick up a first down our defense gets essentially no rest. rings a lot of truth.

Here is the time of possession on series where Memphis had to punt or turnover:

Drive & Time
#1 & 1:04
#3 & 1:37
#4 & 1:07
#6 & 1:23

2nd Half
#2 & 0:45
#3 & 1:34
#5 & 2:19
#6 & 0:09

Something that some fast tempo coaches use that can also kill the clock to either secure lead or to give the D a rest is have the offense rush to line of scrimmage after every play (so defense can't substitute) and still work the clock under 5-10 secs before snapping the ball.

Reading is tough for some. Thanks for pulling actual drive times. That really is rough on the defense, I did not realize the first 4 drives were so short.

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Dropped passes, penalties, penalties, penalties, poor QB protection & predictable play calling. And that's the offense.

We sure ran a lot to the short side last night as well. I never have understood that but it seems like everyone does it

(10-30-2016 03:38 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  lol

We give up 60 points & 362 yards rushing and people think the problem is the offense.

We truly are a basketball fan base who is brand new to this football thing.

lol. Exactly.

(10-30-2016 01:48 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(10-30-2016 08:54 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(10-30-2016 03:38 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  lol

We give up 60 points & 362 yards rushing and people think the problem is the offense.

We truly are a basketball fan base who is brand new to this football thing.

The OP's first statement: - If we do not pick up a first down our defense gets essentially no rest. rings a lot of truth.

Here is the time of possession on series where Memphis had to punt or turnover:

Drive & Time
#1 & 1:04
#3 & 1:37
#4 & 1:07
#6 & 1:23

2nd Half
#2 & 0:45
#3 & 1:34
#5 & 2:19
#6 & 0:09

Something that some fast tempo coaches use that can also kill the clock to either secure lead or to give the D a rest is have the offense rush to line of scrimmage after every play (so defense can't substitute) and still work the clock under 5-10 secs before snapping the ball.

Reading is tough for some. Thanks for pulling actual drive times. That really is rough on the defense, I did not realize the first 4 drives were so short.

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No prob...just that a HC has to understand their strengths and weaknesses...as even so-so to good defenses (let alone bad ones obviously) can't be on the field so quickly between possessions.

If you're score 30, you should be in the game. We. Cannot. Stop. The. Run. Have we ever given up so many rushing yards in back to back games?

I'd never pass against Memphis.

(10-30-2016 06:22 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

Dude, step away from your black and white world. Never did I blame the lose squarely on the offense. It is just simply a discussion about the offense. However, the offensive speed can clearly impact the defense. We did not give our D any rest on close to 10 possessions and gave Tulsa the ball in easy scoring range multiple times.

The D was terrible. What is your plan to fix it? It seems like some of our offensive problems could be fixed by occasionally slowing down and taking and letting ourselves breathe.

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(10-30-2016 08:54 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(10-30-2016 06:22 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

Dude, step away from your black and white world. Never did I blame the lose squarely on the offense. It is just simply a discussion about the offense. However, the offensive speed can clearly impact the defense. We did not give our D any rest on close to 10 possessions and gave Tulsa the ball in easy scoring range multiple times.

The D was terrible. What is your plan to fix it? It seems like some of our offensive problems could be fixed by occasionally slowing down and taking and letting ourselves breathe.

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"Dude", I'm not the one who needs to step back here.

Its embarrassing to hear people talking about offense tempo when you give up 60 points and nearly 400 yards rushing.

If we had given up 300 rushing yards in the 4th quarter, you might have a point, but we get run over the entire game. Its not a problem of stamina or rest.

(10-30-2016 08:54 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  If you're score 30, you should be in the game. We. Cannot. Stop. The. Run. Have we ever given up so many rushing yards in back to back games?

I'd never pass against Memphis.

yep

A lot of our fans really know basketball, but they don't understand football well yet.

(10-30-2016 03:28 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Dropped passes, penalties, penalties, penalties, poor QB protection & predictable play calling. And that's the offense.

You forgot poor spots, and a refusal or inability of our quarterback running it when he is out of options.

(10-30-2016 11:52 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(10-30-2016 08:54 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  If you're score 30, you should be in the game. We. Cannot. Stop. The. Run. Have we ever given up so many rushing yards in back to back games?

I'd never pass against Memphis.

yep

A lot of our fans really know basketball, but they don't understand football well yet.

Just in case you were referring to me, I learned from my dad and grandad in Crump Stadium, beginning in 1962. And I never even attended a college bb game until the 1990's, although I did play girls' bb in high school.

(10-31-2016 01:16 AM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  

(10-30-2016 11:52 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(10-30-2016 08:54 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  If you're score 30, you should be in the game. We. Cannot. Stop. The. Run. Have we ever given up so many rushing yards in back to back games?

I'd never pass against Memphis.

yep

A lot of our fans really know basketball, but they don't understand football well yet.

Just in case you were referring to me, I learned from my dad and grandad in Crump Stadium, beginning in 1962. And I never even attended a college bb game until the 1990's, although I did play girls' bb in high school.

I just assumed it went without saying that I was referring to the majority, not every single person.

I myslef and a long time tiger fan and understand the complexities of football better than basketball, so obviously I'm not referring to every single person.

Its been clear to me since last year though that many of our fans are causal football fans still learning the game though.

It just screams that its a bunch of lifelong BB fans starting to get into the football program now. A lot of comments and discussions are from a basketball perspective more than football.

We give up 60 points and 400 yards rushing and people are talking about "offensive tempo". That is as perfect example as you can have.

Its not meant as a personal attack on anyone, just a really blunt observation.