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RE: 2016-2017 Bubas Cup - Completed Sports
The way the tiebreaks were explained to me for volleyball, the team that finished higher in the conference tournament would receive the higher points for the Bubas Cup. The tournament was not seeded by placement in each division, as Little Rock would have been the #7 seed by being the fourth place team in the West and having a better conference record than the East fourth place team, #8 seed Georgia State. Georgia State tied with Louisiana with a 6-10 record, but will receive the 8th place points (5) while the Cajuns receive 4 points because the Panthers were in the conference tournament.

South Alabama and Georgia Southern had 7-9 conference records and were knocked out of the tournament in the same round, so I'm understanding they will split 6th and 7th place points (6.5). Coastal gets the 12 points as they won the conference tournament. I'll post the points and standings now, and check with the office in the morning. I'll make any adjustments, if need be, after that.

1. Coastal Carolina (39.5)
2. South Alabama (33.5)
3. Appalachian State (29.5)
4. Arkansas State (27)
5. Texas State (26.5)
6. Texas-Arlington (25)
7. Louisiana (23.5)
8. Georgia Southern (21)
T9. Georgia State (20.5)
Little Rock (20.5)
11. Troy (13)
12. ULM (12.5)

Point totals and standings adjusted 11/22/16 after conference office posted on the website.
(This post was last modified: 11-22-2016 09:49 PM by lcitsh.)
11-20-2016 04:44 PM
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11-20-2016 06:13 PM
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Don't worry, TXST and UTA will move up when (both) T&F hit and a few others when softball comes along.

Kind of had a rough Fall and not sure about either BB team at this point.

Wish we had enough schools and all had the money to have LaCrosse. Our MCLA team is kind of awesome.
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11-20-2016 07:53 PM
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Yeah we look to be trash in basketball this year. But softball, tennis, and (obviously) baseball will be good in the spring.
11-20-2016 08:18 PM
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(11-20-2016 07:53 PM)CatMom Wrote:  Don't worry, TXST and UTA will move up when (both) T&F hit and a few others when softball comes along.

Kind of had a rough Fall and not sure about either BB team at this point.

Wish we had enough schools and all had the money to have LaCrosse. Our MCLA team is kind of awesome.

I think the winter and spring sports will be good for us. Our shooty-hoops teams should be good (maybe the men can right their ship or pull a stAte FB kinda thing). The indoor mens team is usually top three. The women have been stuck in third gear lately. Our tennis teams should be strong again with the returners we have. The golf squad returns talent. I'm expecting softball to improve tremendously this year and baseball is a crap shoot as always.

I just hate the fall for us. We score three of six possible sports.

(11-20-2016 08:18 PM)CCUstudent Wrote:  Yeah we look to be trash in basketball this year. But softball, tennis, and (obviously) baseball will be good in the spring.

What makes you say that?
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I forget about tennis.Maybe because we're not usually very good and don't have a men's team. Golf? Don't know. We won WG last year then Teis promptly let the coach get away. MG, we have good individuals and fight for the title but fold like a wet blanket on day 3.

Randi Rupp (SB) tries out for the US National team in January. If she happens to make it I don't know what happens. I know Cat Osterman took time out of her UT career when she made it.
11-20-2016 10:17 PM
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(11-20-2016 09:44 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  
(11-20-2016 07:53 PM)CatMom Wrote:  Don't worry, TXST and UTA will move up when (both) T&F hit and a few others when softball comes along.

Kind of had a rough Fall and not sure about either BB team at this point.

Wish we had enough schools and all had the money to have LaCrosse. Our MCLA team is kind of awesome.

I think the winter and spring sports will be good for us. Our shooty-hoops teams should be good (maybe the men can right their ship or pull a stAte FB kinda thing). The indoor mens team is usually top three. The women have been stuck in third gear lately. Our tennis teams should be strong again with the returners we have. The golf squad returns talent. I'm expecting softball to improve tremendously this year and baseball is a crap shoot as always.

I just hate the fall for us. We score three of six possible sports.

(11-20-2016 08:18 PM)CCUstudent Wrote:  Yeah we look to be trash in basketball this year. But softball, tennis, and (obviously) baseball will be good in the spring.

What makes you say that?

Lol. In all honesty, I think our team may be even more consistent this year than last. We peaked at the right time last year but kind of underperformed for most of it. We return 3/4 of our main Omaha pitchers and several of our younger guys have apparently made a lot of improvement. I think with the experience and confidence the guys bring back, they'll be more consistent this season and a top 10 team throughout.
11-21-2016 11:52 PM
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http://www.sunbeltsports.org/sports/2014...sCup.aspx?

I edited my previous post (#11) with the current standings.

The logic for just about everything done in this sport (volleyball) absolutely escapes me. They chose to have 8 teams in the conference tournament instead of all 12. They took the top 4 teams in each division, but, instead of placing them in the brackets by that placement, they seeded them based upon their overall conference record. Now, when they award the Bubas Cup points, they followed neither the method I was told when I called the conference office last week, nor did they follow the written method sent to McLeansvilleAppFan.

Coastal Carolina and Arkansas State tied with the same conference record, Coastal broke the tie by winning the conference tournament (12 and 11 points). Texas State had the next best conference record (13-3) and tied for third in the conference tournament so they get 10 points. Texas-Arlington had the next best conference record (10-6, 4th) but finished 3rd in their division. Georgia Southern and South Alabama tied for 2nd in the East (7-9 conference record, 6th and 7th best overall conference record) and were eliminated in the first round of the conference tournament (5th through 8th place), but were awarded points based upon a tie for 4th (8.5 points). Texas-Arlington received 7 points (6th place), despite having the 4th best conference record (by 3 matches) and finishing tied for 3rd in the conference tournament. Georgia State and Little Rock were both knocked out in the first round of the conference tournament and both finished 4th in their respective divisions, but Little Rock had an 8-8 conference record, Georgia State, 6-10, yet both were given a tie for 7th overall in Cup points (5.5). Louisiana had the same conference record as Georgia State and defeated the Panthers in Atlanta, but were kept out of the conference tournament because they finished 5th in their division. They were given the same points (3.5) as the other 5th place team (Troy), who had a 4-12 conference record. ULM and Appalachian State shared 11th place points (1.5) with 3-13 and 2-14 (respectively) conference records.

I don't believe any of the other sports have as diluted a method of awarding Cup points, nor have a complicated tiebreak system for their games/matches, so calculating Bubas from here on out should be relatively easy. Football has two weekends of games left. It doesn't appear that Coastal Carolina will lose their current place in the Bubas Cup standings as South Alabama will have to pick up 4+ points to pass them and Appalachian State can only tie with them after football. Indoor track and field comes up in late February.
11-23-2016 01:35 AM
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1. Appalachian State (40)
2. Coastal Carolina (39.5)
3. South Alabama (38.5)
4. Arkansas State (37.5)
5. Louisiana (30.5)
6. Texas State (27.5)
7. Georgia Southern (27)
8. Texas-Arlington (25)
9. Georgia State (23.5)
10. Troy (21.5)
11. Little Rock (20.5)
12. ULM (17.5)

6 sports down, a third of the way through the season, and you have the same leaders (plus newcomer Coastal Carolina) as you had at the same time last season. Indoor track and field comes up at the end of February followed by basketball.
12-04-2016 12:50 AM
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Yea, only one more sport that will go unscored for us.
12-04-2016 02:27 AM
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