Welp, we took a steaming dump on our home carpet in this game.

(10-30-2016 01:20 AM)emu steve Wrote:  One thing about Roback.

Got to believe he has one of the more underrated arms in CFB.

We is forever making or trying to make the most difficult throws.

On one play he threw the ball from his goal line to what the MIA 40 yard line?

He is probably the only MAC QB who can do that. Correct? Some of the other MAC QBs have gaudy statistics but I don't think they have Roback's arm.

Jamarcus Russell could throw it 75 yds off 1 knee, and Uncle Rico could throw a pigskin a quarter mile..........so what.

Yesterday he was outplayed by Ragland. Easily the most deceiving 300 yard game of all time. In the first half and early 3rd qtr, when it mattered, the offense was terrible. Also reverted back to his old skittish ways in the pocket, bailing out early and actually causing some of the sacks himself, as well as taking 2 sacks as he ran to the sideline, that he could have easily just thrown away.

Granted, the OL laid an egg, and he was under more pressure than normal.........BUT prior to this game, he has had an abnormal amount of time to throw the ball.

Any QB can look good with an insane amount of time to throw.

Give him a mulligan like the rest of the team, and hope he bounces back, like the rest of the team. They all seemed to be dazed and confused.

As many of us have said, we really need time to rest/heal up. The desperately needed bye week is coming right when we need it. Ball State plays WMU on Tuesday. Only 3 extra days for us, but as we've seen playing WMU can take A LOT out of a team. Really helpful to get the extra time to prepare for Ball State while they scheme for Western and they try not to get too banged up against them.

If we put up a good performance and win at Ball State, I think all is well in my book. If we come out flat and lay another egg, then we have a problem. Coaches have no excuse to not be prepared for this one.

If this has been posted previously I'm sorry but here are CC's comments on the game. By the way I went to the women's volleyball and they got swept by Toledo but the men's and women's CC team won MAC championships:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUk3OWtpLg4

(10-30-2016 10:01 AM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(10-30-2016 01:20 AM)emu steve Wrote:  One thing about Roback.

Got to believe he has one of the more underrated arms in CFB.

We is forever making or trying to make the most difficult throws.

On one play he threw the ball from his goal line to what the MIA 40 yard line?

He is probably the only MAC QB who can do that. Correct? Some of the other MAC QBs have gaudy statistics but I don't think they have Roback's arm.

Jamarcus Russell could throw it 75 yds off 1 knee, and Uncle Rico could throw a pigskin a quarter mile..........so what.

Yesterday he was outplayed by Ragland. Easily the most deceiving 300 yard game of all time. In the first half and early 3rd qtr, when it mattered, the offense was terrible. Also reverted back to his old skittish ways in the pocket, bailing out early and actually causing some of the sacks himself, as well as taking 2 sacks as he ran to the sideline, that he could have easily just thrown away.

Granted, the OL laid an egg, and he was under more pressure than normal.........BUT prior to this game, he has had an abnormal amount of time to throw the ball.

Any QB can look good with an insane amount of time to throw.

Give him a mulligan like the rest of the team, and hope he bounces back, like the rest of the team. They all seemed to be dazed and confused.

Yes the OL allowed many pressures and 5 sacks, I can't understand why we can't run successfully and take time of the clock and give the defense time to be off the field we seem successful when our offensive yards are about 50/50. I believe Christie might be out nice to see Terrell back on the field. Moody hurt-don't know for how long. CC addressed Turner says he needed to wait for X-Rays.

(10-30-2016 12:11 PM)emu79 Wrote:  

(10-30-2016 10:01 AM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(10-30-2016 01:20 AM)emu steve Wrote:  One thing about Roback.

Got to believe he has one of the more underrated arms in CFB.

We is forever making or trying to make the most difficult throws.

On one play he threw the ball from his goal line to what the MIA 40 yard line?

He is probably the only MAC QB who can do that. Correct? Some of the other MAC QBs have gaudy statistics but I don't think they have Roback's arm.

Jamarcus Russell could throw it 75 yds off 1 knee, and Uncle Rico could throw a pigskin a quarter mile..........so what.

Yesterday he was outplayed by Ragland. Easily the most deceiving 300 yard game of all time. In the first half and early 3rd qtr, when it mattered, the offense was terrible. Also reverted back to his old skittish ways in the pocket, bailing out early and actually causing some of the sacks himself, as well as taking 2 sacks as he ran to the sideline, that he could have easily just thrown away.

Granted, the OL laid an egg, and he was under more pressure than normal.........BUT prior to this game, he has had an abnormal amount of time to throw the ball.

Any QB can look good with an insane amount of time to throw.

Give him a mulligan like the rest of the team, and hope he bounces back, like the rest of the team. They all seemed to be dazed and confused.

Yes the OL allowed many pressures and 5 sacks, I can't understand why we can't run successfully and take time of the clock and give the defense time to be off the field we seem successful when our offensive yards are about 50/50. I believe Christie might be out nice to see Terrell back on the field. Moody hurt-don't know for how long. CC addressed Turner says he needed to wait for X-Rays.

One problem: our RBs are really banged up. We do not have a Bronson Hill or Darius Jackson. No home run hitter.

I don't see the banged up RBs being able to lead our offense.

The only way our banged up RBs can lead the offense is if we have Porter at QB and run more of that type of offense.

Probably going to be Eriksen and Parker next week. Would like to see Parker get more carries. Just needs his opportunity like Eriksen & Turner got. Need to give him the carries on the outside runs and jet sweeps, not Eriksen.

If we can't run the ball for some reason, I'd seriously consider spreading it out and throwing it 60+ times, whatever it takes. Running up the gut on 1st and 2nd down, and then an obvious pass on 3rd down was a disaster, and one of the big problems against Miami. Too conservative with the play calling when it was obvious the run game stalled after Turner went out.

Our receivers are plenty good enough to make plays against MAC DB's. i would argue the combination of Bailey, Aristilde, Porter, Daugherty, Niupalau, and Kilby are as good a top 6 as there is in the MAC. Of course Western, Toledo and maybe 1 or 2 others might have a better top 2 or 3, but our 6 (with Roback throwing it) can all do damage in different ways.

These RB injuries have certainly hurt. Most times when we spread the field and go 5 wide, we move the ball very effectively. That is really Roback's specialty. Especially now, with Diuly providing another weapon that can stretch the field.

Not saying we abandon the run. But at this point, with our 1st half struggles on offense........might be more effective with our current personnel to start out winging it to spread the defense and set up the run.

This also makes sense. Id like to see more room for Kilby in the middle, and Bailey, Parker (Sexton) on the edge.

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(10-30-2016 12:11 PM)emu79 Wrote:  

(10-30-2016 10:01 AM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(10-30-2016 01:20 AM)emu steve Wrote:  One thing about Roback.

Got to believe he has one of the more underrated arms in CFB.

We is forever making or trying to make the most difficult throws.

On one play he threw the ball from his goal line to what the MIA 40 yard line?

He is probably the only MAC QB who can do that. Correct? Some of the other MAC QBs have gaudy statistics but I don't think they have Roback's arm.

Jamarcus Russell could throw it 75 yds off 1 knee, and Uncle Rico could throw a pigskin a quarter mile..........so what.

Yesterday he was outplayed by Ragland. Easily the most deceiving 300 yard game of all time. In the first half and early 3rd qtr, when it mattered, the offense was terrible. Also reverted back to his old skittish ways in the pocket, bailing out early and actually causing some of the sacks himself, as well as taking 2 sacks as he ran to the sideline, that he could have easily just thrown away.

Granted, the OL laid an egg, and he was under more pressure than normal.........BUT prior to this game, he has had an abnormal amount of time to throw the ball.

Any QB can look good with an insane amount of time to throw.

Give him a mulligan like the rest of the team, and hope he bounces back, like the rest of the team. They all seemed to be dazed and confused.

Yes the OL allowed many pressures and 5 sacks, I can't understand why we can't run successfully and take time of the clock and give the defense time to be off the field we seem successful when our offensive yards are about 50/50. I believe Christie might be out nice to see Terrell back on the field. Moody hurt-don't know for how long. CC addressed Turner says he needed to wait for X-Rays.

Who is Christie?

Maybe he meant Armstrong? Armstrong has been the starting LG all year, and all of sudden Terrell was in there, and the line play suffered. Both OT's were getting beat consistently as well. Center and RG held up pretty well. Nielsen had been getting LG reps early in the year, so maybe he gets some reps this week as well, if something is wrong with Armstrong.

(10-30-2016 06:28 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Maybe he meant Armstrong? Armstrong has been the starting LG all year, and all of sudden Terrell was in there, and the line play suffered. Both OT's were getting beat consistently as well. Center and RG held up pretty well. Nielsen had been getting LG reps early in the year, so maybe he gets some reps this week as well, if something is wrong with Armstrong.

I thought I saw 54 get beat two plays in a row and get replaced, maybe by Terrell.

(10-30-2016 01:16 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  If we can't run the ball for some reason, I'd seriously consider spreading it out and throwing it 60+ times, whatever it takes.

Indeed. I want to see us go full "Genyk vs. CMU" mode.

(10-30-2016 06:28 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Maybe he meant Armstrong? Armstrong has been the starting LG all year, and all of sudden Terrell was in there, and the line play suffered. Both OT's were getting beat consistently as well. Center and RG held up pretty well. Nielsen had been getting LG reps early in the year, so maybe he gets some reps this week as well, if something is wrong with Armstrong.

I must had Bridgegate on my mind, its not Christie, its Nielsen that didn't play against Miami (O).

(10-30-2016 10:22 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  

(10-30-2016 06:28 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Maybe he meant Armstrong? Armstrong has been the starting LG all year, and all of sudden Terrell was in there, and the line play suffered. Both OT's were getting beat consistently as well. Center and RG held up pretty well. Nielsen had been getting LG reps early in the year, so maybe he gets some reps this week as well, if something is wrong with Armstrong.

I thought I saw 54 get beat two plays in a row and get replaced, maybe by Terrell.

That would be Armstrong.

(10-31-2016 03:28 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(10-30-2016 10:22 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  

(10-30-2016 06:28 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Maybe he meant Armstrong? Armstrong has been the starting LG all year, and all of sudden Terrell was in there, and the line play suffered. Both OT's were getting beat consistently as well. Center and RG held up pretty well. Nielsen had been getting LG reps early in the year, so maybe he gets some reps this week as well, if something is wrong with Armstrong.

I thought I saw 54 get beat two plays in a row and get replaced, maybe by Terrell.

That would be Armstrong.

Yes. I was pointing out that he got replaced after being beaten. He didn't come off with an apparent injury.

(10-31-2016 01:05 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  

(10-31-2016 03:28 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(10-30-2016 10:22 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  

(10-30-2016 06:28 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Maybe he meant Armstrong? Armstrong has been the starting LG all year, and all of sudden Terrell was in there, and the line play suffered. Both OT's were getting beat consistently as well. Center and RG held up pretty well. Nielsen had been getting LG reps early in the year, so maybe he gets some reps this week as well, if something is wrong with Armstrong.

I thought I saw 54 get beat two plays in a row and get replaced, maybe by Terrell.

That would be Armstrong.

Yes. I was pointing out that he got replaced after being beaten. He didn't come off with an apparent injury.

Just reinforces the fact that nobody came prepared and ready to play in that game. Didn't happen the entire season up to that point.

The season is a long grind. Apparent now that they all needed a break to
mentally and physically get ready for the stretch run.

Hoping they bounce back strong.

Not sure where EMU got 16k+ as an attendance figure from, but no way half the stadium was full.