(11-01-2016 01:56 AM)geewizNU Wrote:  UNCW has some flaws believe it or not.

Don't bring them there lies 'round hea now, ya hea?

(11-01-2016 05:16 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  

(11-01-2016 01:56 AM)geewizNU Wrote:  UNCW has some flaws believe it or not.

Don't bring them there lies 'round hea now, ya hea?

Not sure at this point where the flaws are with the teams that Keatts is putting on the floor. I do think UNCW has some flaws in the AD and it starts at the top with Bass,the money is shaky and always has been. The fan base here is very good and supports the team for the most part but Wilmington is a tough sell for sports in general and a bit fickle. The A10 is a perfect fit for what UNCW should be trying to do. They will never have football so they should try to compete at as high a level as possible in basketball and baseball.

(11-03-2016 08:01 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(11-01-2016 05:16 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  

(11-01-2016 01:56 AM)geewizNU Wrote:  UNCW has some flaws believe it or not.

Don't bring them there lies 'round hea now, ya hea?

Not sure at this point where the flaws are with the teams that Keatts is putting on the floor. I do think UNCW has some flaws in the AD and it starts at the top with Bass,the money is shaky and always has been. The fan base here is very good and supports the team for the most part but Wilmington is a tough sell for sports in general and a bit fickle. The A10 is a perfect fit for what UNCW should be trying to do. They will never have football so they should try to compete at as high a level as possible in basketball and baseball.

Bass is the AD, not the Seahawk club or the fundraiser at UNCW. His job is to run the athletic department, assure compliance, line up good coaches and help us compete. UNCW does not have the deep and old alumni base of many schools. Wilmington does not have a huge business base or a large population. Not sure where you expect him to create money.

IMO, the best shot at creating income at UNCW for now is student fees and NCAA appearances in basketball. Next on the list would be the completion of luxury suites at Trask and the baseball field. Businesses that may not donate out of philanthropy, may very well see the value in luxury suites to entertain clients and friends for a good chunk of money.

Our resource base is limited, and that doesn't change with a different AD. Keatts is paid more than any previous coach, and Scalf will now be tipping the scales at close to $150k, after languishing around 80 k for the longest time. Both great steps for UNCW. Also, have you looked at the improvements to the baseball team with covered practice areas and a soon to be completed indoor facility? A lot is happening at UNCW if you can get off the complaining bandwagon. Not to mention, the men's basketball lounge is top notch and one of the best in the state.

Bass has exceeded expectations in the area of administration but he is indeed woeful as a fund raiser. Coming in expectations were that he would be great in this area. His job was to raise money as he was responsible for hiring the people who were supposed to raise money. His performance in that area has been so bad that indeed the university has had to take away his being involved. He just does not have the personality to get the job done in this area and it is our most critical need. I do say he has been a big improvement over who he replaced and we are in a much better place now.

Bass is a flawed AD for sure but UNCW is a tough sell to the area and he has not connected here at all. Most people I know that go to games of any sort at UNCW will tell you the guy has zero personality and does not bother to connect with any new person outside the circle. He is a nice enough fella but not exactly a go getter personality or salesman of any sort.
The facilities here just pitiful when you look at other smaller athletic departments. I know they are doing a little work but even if it was finished right now it would be light years behind a Coastal Carolina or Campbell just to name 2 smaller schools very close to Wilmington. These are the things that might keep UNCW out of the A10,not the teams that compete. I am speaking of the 2 big programs at UNCW-baseball and basketball.
I disagree with luxury suites at Trask 100%-they have already ruined part of what made Trask a monster with the removal of the bleachers and replaced them with old farts who could careless in seatbacks. The place was an absolute zoo and now it is like a graveyard at times-even when they are winning. If it's not broke don't fix it! Cut back on some of the yellow coats and be nice to the people who spend their hard earned money there. Spend some money a real concession-it's basically middle school quality now.

(11-03-2016 02:38 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  Bass is a flawed AD for sure but UNCW is a tough sell to the area and he has not connected here at all. Most people I know that go to games of any sort at UNCW will tell you the guy has zero personality and does not bother to connect with any new person outside the circle. He is a nice enough fella but not exactly a go getter personality or salesman of any sort.
The facilities here just pitiful when you look at other smaller athletic departments. I know they are doing a little work but even if it was finished right now it would be light years behind a Coastal Carolina or Campbell just to name 2 smaller schools very close to Wilmington. These are the things that might keep UNCW out of the A10,not the teams that compete. I am speaking of the 2 big programs at UNCW-baseball and basketball.

Campbell plays in a high school gym.... jus saying

(11-03-2016 02:38 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  Bass is a flawed AD for sure but UNCW is a tough sell to the area and he has not connected here at all. Most people I know that go to games of any sort at UNCW will tell you the guy has zero personality and does not bother to connect with any new person outside the circle. He is a nice enough fella but not exactly a go getter personality or salesman of any sort.
The facilities here just pitiful when you look at other smaller athletic departments. I know they are doing a little work but even if it was finished right now it would be light years behind a Coastal Carolina or Campbell just to name 2 smaller schools very close to Wilmington. These are the things that might keep UNCW out of the A10,not the teams that compete. I am speaking of the 2 big programs at UNCW-baseball and basketball.

Campbell plays in a high school gym.... jus saying

(11-03-2016 02:39 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 02:38 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  Bass is a flawed AD for sure but UNCW is a tough sell to the area and he has not connected here at all. Most people I know that go to games of any sort at UNCW will tell you the guy has zero personality and does not bother to connect with any new person outside the circle. He is a nice enough fella but not exactly a go getter personality or salesman of any sort.
The facilities here just pitiful when you look at other smaller athletic departments. I know they are doing a little work but even if it was finished right now it would be light years behind a Coastal Carolina or Campbell just to name 2 smaller schools very close to Wilmington. These are the things that might keep UNCW out of the A10,not the teams that compete. I am speaking of the 2 big programs at UNCW-baseball and basketball.

Campbell plays in a high school gym.... jus saying

Campbell has a new gym that seats about 3200 and is a real basketball arena-much better than Trask. I think it is the Pope Center or something like that. Baseball facility is also new and better than UNCW.

(11-03-2016 03:05 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 02:39 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 02:38 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  Bass is a flawed AD for sure but UNCW is a tough sell to the area and he has not connected here at all. Most people I know that go to games of any sort at UNCW will tell you the guy has zero personality and does not bother to connect with any new person outside the circle. He is a nice enough fella but not exactly a go getter personality or salesman of any sort.
The facilities here just pitiful when you look at other smaller athletic departments. I know they are doing a little work but even if it was finished right now it would be light years behind a Coastal Carolina or Campbell just to name 2 smaller schools very close to Wilmington. These are the things that might keep UNCW out of the A10,not the teams that compete. I am speaking of the 2 big programs at UNCW-baseball and basketball.

Campbell plays in a high school gym.... jus saying

Campbell has a new gym that seats about 3200 and is a real basketball arena-much better than Trask. I think it is the Pope Center or something like that. Baseball facility is also new and better than UNCW.

While newer it's still half of trask and a high school gym!

(11-03-2016 08:01 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(11-01-2016 05:16 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  

(11-01-2016 01:56 AM)geewizNU Wrote:  UNCW has some flaws believe it or not.

Don't bring them there lies 'round hea now, ya hea?

Not sure at this point where the flaws are with the teams that Keatts is putting on the floor.

UNCW doesn't have a lot of size in the paint.

Rebounding could be a problem, no matter how good your guards and wings are.

(11-03-2016 03:10 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 03:05 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 02:39 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 02:38 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  Bass is a flawed AD for sure but UNCW is a tough sell to the area and he has not connected here at all. Most people I know that go to games of any sort at UNCW will tell you the guy has zero personality and does not bother to connect with any new person outside the circle. He is a nice enough fella but not exactly a go getter personality or salesman of any sort.
The facilities here just pitiful when you look at other smaller athletic departments. I know they are doing a little work but even if it was finished right now it would be light years behind a Coastal Carolina or Campbell just to name 2 smaller schools very close to Wilmington. These are the things that might keep UNCW out of the A10,not the teams that compete. I am speaking of the 2 big programs at UNCW-baseball and basketball.

Campbell plays in a high school gym.... jus saying

Campbell has a new gym that seats about 3200 and is a real basketball arena-much better than Trask. I think it is the Pope Center or something like that. Baseball facility is also new and better than UNCW.

While newer it's still half of trask and a high school gym!

I would say you need to see it,it is a lot better facility than Trask and its not even close. They don't fill it up on a regular basis,it fits the program there. Trask also is very seldom full and is a little to big for UNCW-IMO. If they were building something new for basketball today it would be a smaller building I would think. The gym at Campbell is built for viewing the game with good seats and it is very loud-all seats are walk down and it keeps the crowd noise close to the court. If you have been to the Smith Center cave in Chapel Hill it has a delayed crowd noise even when full-just to damn big with a really high roof.

(11-03-2016 03:22 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 03:10 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 03:05 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 02:39 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 02:38 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  Bass is a flawed AD for sure but UNCW is a tough sell to the area and he has not connected here at all. Most people I know that go to games of any sort at UNCW will tell you the guy has zero personality and does not bother to connect with any new person outside the circle. He is a nice enough fella but not exactly a go getter personality or salesman of any sort.
The facilities here just pitiful when you look at other smaller athletic departments. I know they are doing a little work but even if it was finished right now it would be light years behind a Coastal Carolina or Campbell just to name 2 smaller schools very close to Wilmington. These are the things that might keep UNCW out of the A10,not the teams that compete. I am speaking of the 2 big programs at UNCW-baseball and basketball.

Campbell plays in a high school gym.... jus saying

Campbell has a new gym that seats about 3200 and is a real basketball arena-much better than Trask. I think it is the Pope Center or something like that. Baseball facility is also new and better than UNCW.

While newer it's still half of trask and a high school gym!

I would say you need to see it,it is a lot better facility than Trask and its not even close. They don't fill it up on a regular basis,it fits the program there. Trask also is very seldom full and is a little to big for UNCW-IMO. If they were building something new for basketball today it would be a smaller building I would think. The gym at Campbell is built for viewing the game with good seats and it is very loud-all seats are walk down and it keeps the crowd noise close to the court. If you have been to the Smith Center cave in Chapel Hill it has a delayed crowd noise even when full-just to damn big with a really high roof.

TRask was full on a regular basis from 2000-2008 when i lived there and head season tickets. No reason why it can't get that way again!

It holds about 5100 now and I could be wrong but I think maybe 1 sellout last year and none for quite a while before that. I don't see it getting back to being full anytime soon. A lot of water under the bridge there from the previous regimes. Paired with the weak schedules and lack of any real excitement about playing CAA teams now makes it a tough sell. I do have season tickets for this year but it looks like I will make less than half of the games.

If we are competitive like we were last year, we'll have more sell outs. With a CAA championship and an NCAA appearance against Duke to a large crowd on the big screen in Trask, students and fans from last year should be hyped. We just need at least two CAA teams to have a good record to start conference play.

(11-03-2016 05:38 PM)82hawk Wrote:  If we are competitive like we were last year, we'll have more sell outs. With a CAA championship and an NCAA appearance against Duke to a large crowd on the big screen in Trask, students and fans from last year should be hyped. We just need at least two CAA teams to have a good record to start conference play.

Count on CofC. We typically do very well OOC, it's always been conference play (specially conference tournaments) where we fall flat

Maybe the crowds return to Trask with a great season but the reality is that people have lost interest for one reason or another. At one time it was the place to be on game days and now it seems to be ho hum at best. The first mistake there was the press table being put on the baseline in front of the baseball team-huge mistake. I know they could get out of hand there at times but a little security would have done the job. About the same time the displacement of long time season ticket holders to corporate or bandwagon fans really pissed some people off and they never came back. I know they need money back you can't just slap fans in the face and expect them to be ok with it. The lottery deal was an absolute bust. Removing the bleachers turned the place into an auditorium style arena as opposed to a rowdy gym-ala ECU. I could go on with this list but these are just things you can't get away with when your team stinks. It has been an uphill battle to get fans back at Trask. The numbers are phony with tons of no shows at most games but the sold ticket sales reads like the crowds are decent. I was at a few games during the Moss era when you could count the fans in about 5 mins and the number would be like 3400. Bass needs to get his butt out there and work the crowd -I doubt it happens. I plan on being there as much as possible this season.

Really? How many years has it been now since Moss. Going all the way back to the Moss years to take a dig at UNCW's attendance?

That's laughable at best considering the success and crowd surge over the last couple years.

(11-04-2016 07:10 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  Really? How many years has it been now since Moss. Going all the way back to the Moss years to take a dig at UNCW's attendance?

That's laughable at best considering the success and crowd surge over the last couple years.

Check out the numbers-they are good bit far from great. I made 3 games last year and the place as not close to being full. W&M day game,maybe 2500 and it was a great game. Crowd was loud at the end but dead as a door nail for the entire first half.
Its coming back but still has long way to go.

(11-05-2016 08:10 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(11-04-2016 07:10 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  Really? How many years has it been now since Moss. Going all the way back to the Moss years to take a dig at UNCW's attendance?

That's laughable at best considering the success and crowd surge over the last couple years.

Check out the numbers-they are good bit far from great. I made 3 games last year and the place as not close to being full. W&M day game,maybe 2500 and it was a great game. Crowd was loud at the end but dead as a door nail for the entire first half.
Its coming back but still has long way to go.

That's odd, i made 2 games, and both were pretty full and both were loud. And, we led the conference in attendance
..... again

(11-07-2016 08:45 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  That's odd, i made 2 games, and both were pretty full and both were loud. And, we led the conference in attendance
..... again

Yep. Again, Mullet is full of sh*t when it comes to the numbers. Overall we averaged 4,199 fans per game, beating out the next best, W&M, by a substantial number (they averaged 3,062). When you look at CAA-only games, our average attendance was 4,445.

In light of that inaccuracy on Mullet's part, it's hard to trust his subjective viewpoint that Trask was "quiet".

Granted, it's not as loud as it was when people like Coastguard and me were in school, because Trask truly was the toughest place to play in a very good league. But there were definitely moments last season where "Old Trask" seemed to reawaken. The crowd was very loud during big conference games.

I imagine it'll be even louder this year, though perhaps not against Claflin on Friday.