I have recently heard an analogy about politics and sports fans. When the side you support does something wrong , your basically ok with it. But if your opponent has a transgression you argue for the maximum sentence allowed!

I saw the fight in the WKU/ODU game and saw wrongdoing from members of both teams. The conference should penalize both teams and players in a fair manor!

Agree. The problem in our country and with sports fans in general, is a total lack of willingness to share responsibility. Rarely is one point of view completely right or wrong, but we've lost the middle ground.
ODU needs to take responsibility for itself. WKU for itself, and both stop with the justifications for acting childishly.

No home team has ever commited a penalty if you listen to the fans.

(10-23-2016 03:40 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  No home team has ever commited a penalty if you listen to the fans.

(10-23-2016 03:40 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  No home team has ever commited a penalty if you listen to the fans.

Neither have the visitors. If you listen to the fans.

But in this case I really haven't seen many that didn't see fault in both teams. One would be the one ODU fan that called someone a whore last night...

he never sees any wrong

(10-23-2016 03:44 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 03:40 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  No home team has ever committed a penalty if you listen to the fans.

ECU pos(t)ers were the best at it....ucf pos(t)ers gave 'em a run for their money....

Marshall fellers have managed to fill that void....

...and they're getting a full dose of humility this year.....

(10-23-2016 04:04 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 03:40 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  No home team has ever commited a penalty if you listen to the fans.

Neither have the visitors. If you listen to the fans.

But in this case I really haven't seen many that didn't see fault in both teams. One would be the one ODU fan that called someone a whore last night...

he never sees any wrong

I was truly speaking in generalities with regards to the booing in the stands(and tacky bull**** chants from the student section) that happens after 99% of penalty calls.


I was unable to watch any football yesterday until I watched the Blue Raider victory on ESPN3 replay around 11pm, so I actually don't know anything about the shenanigans in Bowling Green.

Finally saw the video. Man, that could have gotten ugly; it almost turned into a Saturday night in West Virginia! On the bright side though, no "targeting" occurred in any of that so I guess all is well that ends well.

http://www.wdrb.com/story/33453770/crawf...d-dominion

(10-23-2016 04:15 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 04:04 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 03:40 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  No home team has ever commited a penalty if you listen to the fans.

Neither have the visitors. If you listen to the fans.

But in this case I really haven't seen many that didn't see fault in both teams. One would be the one ODU fan that called someone a whore last night...

he never sees any wrong

I was truly speaking in generalities with regards to the booing in the stands(and tacky bull**** chants from the student section) that happens after 99% of penalty calls.


I was unable to watch any football yesterday until I watched the Blue Raider victory on ESPN3 replay around 11pm, so I actually don't know anything about the shenanigans in Bowling Green.

dude....that's what the student section is supposed to do when they're collectivelyt shite hammered....it's nothing more than a simple release from the reality they are preparing to inherit.....

hell, I still wander over from time to time to our pep band at hoops just to remember and enjoy what it was like....

noise in the stands is one of the best motivators to those on the field....

there's a reason it's labeled as "home field advantage"

(10-23-2016 04:27 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 04:15 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 04:04 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 03:40 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  No home team has ever commited a penalty if you listen to the fans.

Neither have the visitors. If you listen to the fans.

But in this case I really haven't seen many that didn't see fault in both teams. One would be the one ODU fan that called someone a whore last night...

he never sees any wrong

I was truly speaking in generalities with regards to the booing in the stands(and tacky bull**** chants from the student section) that happens after 99% of penalty calls.


I was unable to watch any football yesterday until I watched the Blue Raider victory on ESPN3 replay around 11pm, so I actually don't know anything about the shenanigans in Bowling Green.

dude....that's what the student section is supposed to do when they're collectivelyt shite hammered....it's nothing more than a simple release from the reality they are preparing to inherit.....

hell, I still wander over from time to time to our pep band at hoops just to remember and enjoy what it was like....

noise in the stands is one of the best motivators to those on the field....

there's a reason it's labeled as "home field advantage"

I was a leader in the student section in football, men's basketball and women's basketball my entire extended undergrad tenure(went to four conference basketball tournaments as a student, traveled to multiple road FB games nearly every year). I took a great deal of pride in my heckling in basketball in particular, but mindless chants like "bull****"(especially following obvious penalties) was never something I enjoyed.

(10-23-2016 04:42 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 04:27 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 04:15 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 04:04 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 03:40 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  No home team has ever commited a penalty if you listen to the fans.

Neither have the visitors. If you listen to the fans.

But in this case I really haven't seen many that didn't see fault in both teams. One would be the one ODU fan that called someone a whore last night...

he never sees any wrong

I was truly speaking in generalities with regards to the booing in the stands(and tacky bull**** chants from the student section) that happens after 99% of penalty calls.


I was unable to watch any football yesterday until I watched the Blue Raider victory on ESPN3 replay around 11pm, so I actually don't know anything about the shenanigans in Bowling Green.

dude....that's what the student section is supposed to do when they're collectivelyt shite hammered....it's nothing more than a simple release from the reality they are preparing to inherit.....

hell, I still wander over from time to time to our pep band at hoops just to remember and enjoy what it was like....

noise in the stands is one of the best motivators to those on the field....

there's a reason it's labeled as "home field advantage"

I was a leader in the student section in football, men's basketball and women's basketball my entire extended undergrad tenure(went to four conference basketball tournaments as a student, traveled to multiple road FB games nearly every year). I took a great deal of pride in my heckling in basketball in particular, but mindless chants like "bull****"(especially following obvious penalties) was never something I enjoyed.

I'll just admit it now.....those times were too much fun.....we called it the "Rowdy Rail" and displayed the sign(s) every time...

the sad truth that still exists today is that the refs are underachievers doing it on the side and sometimes react like the current moderators in the first two Trump debates....

I didn't care then, and I still don't care in totality as a fan....you can't fix a flawed biz policy unless you tackle the root....so, I just accept getting the occasional shoved up my arse tickling and move on....

like the NoFunLeague, collegiate athletics has to address officiating from the macro side of business (now that they're all grown up and such).....calling up joe billie bob for a few mos is why people get pissed off....and most don't have the capacity to let it go....

one of the rights being a fan(atic) is displaying satisfaction or dissatisfaction.....those on the field are the ones that need to keep all that in check

ref: bill billecheck and nick saban methodology

Do y'all think that the refs "let" it get to the point that there was a fight ?

Should the game have been called more closely prior to the shenanigans ?

I always just thought the students chanted "Push It".


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(10-23-2016 06:51 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  Do y'all think that the refs "let" it get to the point that there was a fight ?

Should the game have been called more closely prior to the shenanigans ?

Yes it should have been called a little closer. On one of the early kickoffs (we had 5 in a row) #77 for ODU was engaged with #18 for us I believe. They were pretty far away from the tackle on the runback when the whistle blew. #77 continued popping #18 in the chest after the whistle. The first time he popped him post whistle #18 (wku) popped him back. Then #77 popped him again. Our #18 saw the ref standing right behind #77 and didn't respond. #18 then popped him again. Ref should have pulled the flag out but it was like 28-0 (no first downs achieved either) at that point and he let it go.

I've coached a lot of sports and every ref thinks it's part of their job when one team is boat racing the other to even things up. They'd never admit to it but they do it. Their job is not to keep it close. But they all seem to try to stop a runaway train in my opinion.

As WKUYG said our receivers will let you know that they just beat you. Taywan Taylor will and Nicholas Norris never shuts up. If he's not yapping at a db he comes back to the huddle and yaps at poor Mike White. It's the Miami in him I'm sure. So I'm sure neither one of those guys were helping ODU dee calm down. Taylor was the one that caught the pass into the sideline. I'm still not sure who our receiver was that continued his block through sideline and then had a mob attack him. Taywan just eased out of town when that happened and headed across field.

(10-23-2016 06:51 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  Do y'all think that the refs "let" it get to the point that there was a fight ?

Should the game have been called more closely prior to the shenanigans ?

Definitely!
If there are suspensions of players after league review of the film, there should be suspensions of officials as well. After a couple of plays in which flags should have been thrown, but weren't, I told my son that if the officials don't get control there was going to be a fight. That was in the second quarter!
They seem to think that in a blowout that they should just let the teams play out the string as there should be no intensity since the game is basically over. It is just the opposite. The losing team, especially if they began the game with high hopes, is going to be embarrassed and angry. The winning team will most likely enjoy talking trash.
That is a recipe for disaster that the officials failed to see.

(10-24-2016 09:20 AM)Jacque Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 06:51 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  Do y'all think that the refs "let" it get to the point that there was a fight ?

Should the game have been called more closely prior to the shenanigans ?

Definitely!
If there are suspensions of players after league review of the film, there should be suspensions of officials as well. After a couple of plays in which flags should have been thrown, but weren't, I told my son that if the officials don't get control there was going to be a fight. That was in the second quarter!
They seem to think that in a blowout that they should just let the teams play out the string as there should be no intensity since the game is basically over. It is just the opposite. The losing team, especially if they began the game with high hopes, is going to be embarrassed and angry. The winning team will most likely enjoy talking trash.
That is a recipe for disaster that the officials failed to see.

while I easily agree with the officiating issue, until the ruling body hires more that the bus drivers to officiate, this will only continue....

it's tough changing self serving powers to give up monies in their coffer that may limit their magic wand moving forward....

So, what's the fallout here? Will both teams face suspensions? What is the punishment for leaving the sideline to participate in a brawl? Not sure what the league's procedures are for something like this.

(10-24-2016 11:07 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  So, what's the fallout here? Will both teams face suspensions? What is the punishment for leaving the sideline to participate in a brawl? Not sure what the league's procedures are for something like this.

what they decide it is, is based on the school and conference....

who knows what they're capable of....however, we do know the big boys get free passes for YUGE infractions and roast the little guys so they remain little guys....

The conference makes this decision, not the NCAA. After watching the video a bunch, I'd be shocked if Christian Byrum and Rob Thompson aren't suspended on our side.

I'm curious who the other fans think should be suspended based on the video.

(10-24-2016 11:18 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  The conference makes this decision, not the NCAA. After watching the video a bunch, I'd be shocked if Christian Byrum and Rob Thompson aren't suspended on our side.

I'm curious who the other fans think should be suspended based on the video.

There's a WKU player (not sure who it was) who took an ODU player to the ground and was about to lay into him until another WKU player pulled him off. He should be suspended. #10 (4th string QB) will probably face punishment for chucking the ball at someone. Wales (#20) is tricky. It was a two hand shove that hit the ODU player's face mask just right causing his helmet to fly off. That really escalated the brawl. If that shove hits the ODU player squarely in the chest, it's a minor scuffle with a couple of penalties handed out. So from that, I wouldn't be surprised if Wales is suspended for the FAU game. Nothing else is clear and just looks to be a lot of pushing and shoving and pulling teammates back.

Still can't get over the head official chucking the flag right at the players like it was going to stop them.