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RE: The politics of a brawl
(10-24-2016 11:26 AM)LouisvilleHilltopper Wrote:  
(10-24-2016 11:18 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  The conference makes this decision, not the NCAA. After watching the video a bunch, I'd be shocked if Christian Byrum and Rob Thompson aren't suspended on our side.

I'm curious who the other fans think should be suspended based on the video.

There's a WKU player (not sure who it was) who took an ODU player to the ground and was about to lay into him until another WKU player pulled him off. He should be suspended. #10 (4th string QB) will probably face punishment for chucking the ball at someone. Wales (#20) is tricky. It was a two hand shove that hit the ODU player's face mask just right causing his helmet to fly off. That really escalated the brawl. If that shove hits the ODU player squarely in the chest, it's a minor scuffle with a couple of penalties handed out. So from that, I wouldn't be surprised if Wales is suspended for the FAU game. Nothing else is clear and just looks to be a lot of pushing and shoving and pulling teammates back.

Still can't get over the head official chucking the flag right at the players like it was going to stop them.

I noticed that too, kinda funny.
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RE: The politics of a brawl
(10-24-2016 11:28 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(10-24-2016 11:26 AM)LouisvilleHilltopper Wrote:  
(10-24-2016 11:18 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  The conference makes this decision, not the NCAA. After watching the video a bunch, I'd be shocked if Christian Byrum and Rob Thompson aren't suspended on our side.

I'm curious who the other fans think should be suspended based on the video.

There's a WKU player (not sure who it was) who took an ODU player to the ground and was about to lay into him until another WKU player pulled him off. He should be suspended. #10 (4th string QB) will probably face punishment for chucking the ball at someone. Wales (#20) is tricky. It was a two hand shove that hit the ODU player's face mask just right causing his helmet to fly off. That really escalated the brawl. If that shove hits the ODU player squarely in the chest, it's a minor scuffle with a couple of penalties handed out. So from that, I wouldn't be surprised if Wales is suspended for the FAU game. Nothing else is clear and just looks to be a lot of pushing and shoving and pulling teammates back.

Still can't get over the head official chucking the flag right at the players like it was going to stop them.

I noticed that too, kinda funny.

Didn't an NFL ref almost blind someone about a decade ago by doing that ?
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RE: The politics of a brawl
(10-24-2016 12:19 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  
(10-24-2016 11:28 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(10-24-2016 11:26 AM)LouisvilleHilltopper Wrote:  
(10-24-2016 11:18 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  The conference makes this decision, not the NCAA. After watching the video a bunch, I'd be shocked if Christian Byrum and Rob Thompson aren't suspended on our side.

I'm curious who the other fans think should be suspended based on the video.

There's a WKU player (not sure who it was) who took an ODU player to the ground and was about to lay into him until another WKU player pulled him off. He should be suspended. #10 (4th string QB) will probably face punishment for chucking the ball at someone. Wales (#20) is tricky. It was a two hand shove that hit the ODU player's face mask just right causing his helmet to fly off. That really escalated the brawl. If that shove hits the ODU player squarely in the chest, it's a minor scuffle with a couple of penalties handed out. So from that, I wouldn't be surprised if Wales is suspended for the FAU game. Nothing else is clear and just looks to be a lot of pushing and shoving and pulling teammates back.

Still can't get over the head official chucking the flag right at the players like it was going to stop them.

I noticed that too, kinda funny.

Didn't an NFL ref almost blind someone about a decade ago by doing that ?

I googled it, it looks like Orlando Brown sued the NFL for this incident. Couldn't find a video though. Here's an Ole Miss player taking a flag to the eye.

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RE: The politics of a brawl
(10-24-2016 11:18 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  The conference makes this decision, not the NCAA. After watching the video a bunch, I'd be shocked if Christian Byrum and Rob Thompson aren't suspended on our side.

I'm curious who the other fans think should be suspended based on the video.

I stand corrected....

that's good to know....

knowing the ncaa can't intervene/punish regarding this incident is always good at our level of play...

having said that, the schools should both work it internally with "some" form of punishment so it doesn't happen again....
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RE: The politics of a brawl
I think we will see the following

There will be warring for all players that left the bench
Any player that threw a punch/swing/football will get 1 game no matter if it did not land (I did not see any land)
Pushing no matter where it landed will get a reprimand but no suspension

The group of 4 players that caused the benches to empty will probably be looked at the hardest and it's iffy to me. I could see all 4 sitting out a game. Even if no punches were thrown. But #12 clearly throws one after his helmet was knocked off from the two handed push


To be honest I mainly watched the action from that group of 4 after the push to the helmet. So there could been punches I missed
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RE: The politics of a brawl
Yeah,

But is Judy, Judy, Judy is making the decision ?

Who knows what will happen.

They make take both Old Dominion and Western Kentucky off of Campus Insiders
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RE: The politics of a brawl
(10-24-2016 01:12 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  Yeah,

But is [b]Judy, Judy, Judy[/b] is making the decision ?

Who knows what will happen.

They make take both Old Dominion and Western Kentucky off of Campus Insiders

From the bold part I would guess you are in your mid 50s or older...

'Juday, Juday, Juday

or just a Cary Grant fan
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RE: The politics of a brawl
(10-24-2016 01:25 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(10-24-2016 01:12 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  Yeah,

But is [b]Judy, Judy, Judy[/b] is making the decision ?

Who knows what will happen.

They make take both Old Dominion and Western Kentucky off of Campus Insiders

From the bold part I would guess you are in your mid 50s or older...

'Juday, Juday, Juday

or just a Cary Grant fan

Andy Griffith fan



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RE: The politics of a brawl
(10-24-2016 01:04 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  I think we will see the following

There will be warring for all players that left the bench
Any player that threw a punch/swing/football will get 1 game no matter if it did not land (I did not see any land)
Pushing no matter where it landed will get a reprimand but no suspension

The group of 4 players that caused the benches to empty will probably be looked at the hardest and it's iffy to me. I could see all 4 sitting out a game. Even if no punches were thrown. But #12 clearly throws one after his helmet was knocked off from the two handed push


To be honest I mainly watched the action from that group of 4 after the push to the helmet. So there could been punches I missed

I wouldn't argue against that....

each school should administer/levy punishment "stat" and move on....

to the helmet-less player......I would've swung from the fences at that point....he was up against 5/6/coulda been 10 if he didn't....he was screwed at that point and knew it.....so screw that premise....you're the fighter, right?
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RE: The politics of a brawl
(10-24-2016 01:28 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  
(10-24-2016 01:25 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(10-24-2016 01:12 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  Yeah,

But is [b]Judy, Judy, Judy[/b] is making the decision ?

Who knows what will happen.

They make take both Old Dominion and Western Kentucky off of Campus Insiders

From the bold part I would guess you are in your mid 50s or older...

'Juday, Juday, Juday

or just a Cary Grant fan

Andy Griffith fan




Forgot about that...

love watching Andy probably seen them all 3 or 4 times. TV Land gets watched more often than anything in my home.
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(10-23-2016 03:09 PM)metternick Wrote:  I have recently heard an analogy about politics and sports fans. When the side you support does something wrong , your basically ok with it. But if your opponent has a transgression you argue for the maximum sentence allowed!

It's a lot like marriage. When the kids do something wrong you make sure they understand what happened and they take care of it. When your spouse does something wrong you close your mouth since you have to sleep in the same bed.
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Announcement from CUSA:
https://twitter.com/mrchadbishop/status/...8599680000

ODU's Christian Byrum and WKU's Ace Wales suspended for first half this week.

Others given a slap on the wrist and "don't do it again."
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RE: The politics of a brawl
What are the chances the officials did not catch the dude throwing the football? I am glad neither team is adversely affected for the next game. The league office should certainly come out and say that they made a mistake ejecting the wrong player though.
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Fair enough....brawl would not have happened on WKU sideline, especially being up so many points.
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(10-24-2016 04:06 PM)LouisvilleHilltopper Wrote:  Announcement from CUSA:
https://twitter.com/mrchadbishop/status/...8599680000

ODU's Christian Byrum and WKU's Ace Wales suspended for first half this week.

Others given a slap on the wrist and "don't do it again."

good enough...finally, a solid decision from the head office....
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Yep, that's probably as far as the league should go, but both coaches should enact some further suspensions in house.

Of course, we know that's not the M.O. at wkcc. Discipline is merely a suggestion there. They are already in talks to erect a statue in Wales honor. 03-lmfao05-stirthepot
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(10-25-2016 06:49 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Yep, that's probably as far as the league should go, but both coaches should enact some further suspensions in house.

Of course, we know that's not the M.O. at wkcc. Discipline is merely a suggestion there. They are already in talks to erect a statue in Wales honor. 03-lmfao05-stirthepot

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