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RE: Rice's best NFL pro?
(10-26-2016 01:07 PM)baker-13 Wrote:  I'd argue that, in terms of best representing Rice and what Rice is, Dr. Frank Ryan is the best professional athlete Rice has ever had.

Not many people could pull off being the last championship Browns qb as a side job while teaching at Case Western Reserve.

Here's a nice 2012 article about Frank in a CWRU publication: http://artsci.case.edu/magazine/2012/a-m...wo-worlds/

He came back to that campus for their 2013 Homecomingto to give a couple of talks -- one about his latest math research: http://thedaily.case.edu/former-math-fac...-research/

And here's a perspective from one of his students, who is now a computer science prof at Georgia Tech: https://rjlipton.wordpress.com/2010/03/1...professor/
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Philip Gaines is having a nice year for the Chiefs too. He got his first career NFL interception today late in the 2nd quarter today - a pick which led to an important KC touchdown at Indianapolis.
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Follow the "Going For Two" link at bottom of Mike's link below to read about 2-point conversion strategy (and Baltimore Raven lineman/PhD student at MIT):

And here's a perspective from one of his students, who is now a computer science prof at Georgia Tech: https://rjlipton.wordpress.com/2010/03/1...professor/
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(10-30-2016 08:40 PM)MrMxyzptlk Wrote:  Follow the "Going For Two" link at bottom of Mike's link below to read about 2-point conversion strategy (and Baltimore Raven lineman/PhD student at MIT):

(10-26-2016 04:33 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:  And here's a perspective from one of his students, who is now a computer science prof at Georgia Tech: https://rjlipton.wordpress.com/2010/03/1...professor/

Nice!! Thanks for letting us know about that "Going For Two" analysis.
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Following on this, Bill Barnwell gets into some of the unofficial game situation rules that have ossified over the years, but that may not really be good guidance anymore. There's a section on rules around the 2-point conversion, though he glosses over the timing question.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17899...s-nfl-2016

For a stat-heavy writer (normally), this article was lacking in pointing to good studies in many of his discussions. But...

Taking that 2-point conversion study he points to (it's NFL specific in how it evaluates game situations, but can be used to at least take a lense to college football situations), it says that if you have a 2-point conversion play you believe can succeed at least 22% of the time (with at least 21 minutes left in the game, and your team down by 2), you should attempt the 2-point play. Clearly, Bailiff doesn't subscribe to that thought process.
source: http://www.footballcommentary.com/twoptchart.htm
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(10-31-2016 08:47 PM)gsloth Wrote:  Following on this, Bill Barnwell gets into some of the unofficial game situation rules that have ossified over the years, but that may not really be good guidance anymore. There's a section on rules around the 2-point conversion, though he glosses over the timing question.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17899...s-nfl-2016

For a stat-heavy writer (normally), this article was lacking in pointing to good studies in many of his discussions. But...

Taking that 2-point conversion study he points to (it's NFL specific in how it evaluates game situations, but can be used to at least take a lense to college football situations), it says that if you have a 2-point conversion play you believe can succeed at least 22% of the time (with at least 21 minutes left in the game, and your team down by 2), you should attempt the 2-point play. Clearly, Bailiff doesn't subscribe to that thought process.
source: http://www.footballcommentary.com/twoptchart.htm

or he doesn't have a play that he thinks has a 22% chance of getting 3 yards
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(10-31-2016 08:47 PM)gsloth Wrote:  Following on this, Bill Barnwell gets into some of the unofficial game situation rules that have ossified over the years, but that may not really be good guidance anymore. There's a section on rules around the 2-point conversion, though he glosses over the timing question.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17899...s-nfl-2016

For a stat-heavy writer (normally), this article was lacking in pointing to good studies in many of his discussions. But...

Taking that 2-point conversion study he points to (it's NFL specific in how it evaluates game situations, but can be used to at least take a lense to college football situations), it says that if you have a 2-point conversion play you believe can succeed at least 22% of the time (with at least 21 minutes left in the game, and your team down by 2), you should attempt the 2-point play. Clearly, Bailiff doesn't subscribe to that thought process.
source: http://www.footballcommentary.com/twoptchart.htm

Seems like most coaches, college and pro, do not subscribe to that thought process.
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(10-23-2016 03:20 PM)DFW Owl Wrote:  Sendejo got hurt on the int return and I believe did not return for the rest of the game. I think they said it was an ankle injury. Hopefully not too serious.

Vikings are now 5-0 with Sendejo and 0-2 without him. MNF announcers mentioned that his rookie replacement has made some mistakes after he positioned himself poorly on a 60 yard run. Hopefully Sendejo will come back soon.
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(10-31-2016 09:23 PM)Rick Gerlach Wrote:  
(10-31-2016 08:47 PM)gsloth Wrote:  Following on this, Bill Barnwell gets into some of the unofficial game situation rules that have ossified over the years, but that may not really be good guidance anymore. There's a section on rules around the 2-point conversion, though he glosses over the timing question.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17899...s-nfl-2016

For a stat-heavy writer (normally), this article was lacking in pointing to good studies in many of his discussions. But...

Taking that 2-point conversion study he points to (it's NFL specific in how it evaluates game situations, but can be used to at least take a lense to college football situations), it says that if you have a 2-point conversion play you believe can succeed at least 22% of the time (with at least 21 minutes left in the game, and your team down by 2), you should attempt the 2-point play. Clearly, Bailiff doesn't subscribe to that thought process.
source: http://www.footballcommentary.com/twoptchart.htm

Seems like most coaches, college and pro, do not subscribe to that thought process.

It's not easy to know it off the top of your head. But it should be easy to color code, or have someone upstairs radio down what the call should be. Shoot, as a head coach, if you reach the red zone, you should already be anticipating getting a TD and know whether it's time for a kick or try.
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Jordan Taylor was on Fallon last night as one of the "Superlatives" voted "Most Athletic Hanson brother"
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