(10-27-2016 11:20 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 11:16 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 11:07 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-26-2016 02:12 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  Are we all really that bad that losing to an FCS playoff caliber team by 5 means you'll run through the belt? Please.

No team with an FCS loss has won a Championship, but we've had multiple teams with FCS losses finish top 2-3 in league

the biggest difference is that in both of those situations the team that won the 6-7 league games took their conference loss in a game played week 5 or earlier.

You guys did all you could to hand GS the game we played so kudos to stAte for finally getting back on track but for the good of the conference stAte does not need to be conference champs this season. I understand that if you win all your league games you will deserve the title but at the same time that probably would be the one thing that will kill what little bit of perception bump we have this year for outsiders looking in.

I'm much more worried about APP than I am ArkST. We'll get a another look at what APP and GS are all about tonight.

Looking at the match-ups, Troy will be playing the toughest defenses they have faced outside of Clemson in back to back games, one being on a short week. It really could spell disaster if the defense chooses to have a let down game in either one as the offense will be tested.

I managed to piss off two trolls with one comment. Banner day.

(10-27-2016 12:02 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 11:20 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 11:16 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 11:07 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-26-2016 02:12 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  Are we all really that bad that losing to an FCS playoff caliber team by 5 means you'll run through the belt? Please.

No team with an FCS loss has won a Championship, but we've had multiple teams with FCS losses finish top 2-3 in league

the biggest difference is that in both of those situations the team that won the 6-7 league games took their conference loss in a game played week 5 or earlier.

You guys did all you could to hand GS the game we played so kudos to stAte for finally getting back on track but for the good of the conference stAte does not need to be conference champs this season. I understand that if you win all your league games you will deserve the title but at the same time that probably would be the one thing that will kill what little bit of perception bump we have this year for outsiders looking in.

I'm much more worried about APP than I am ArkST. We'll get a another look at what APP and GS are all about tonight.

You should worry about App, but there's a decent chance we'll be 5-0 in league heading down to Troy. You could do all that work beating App, and lose to us and watch the entirety of your championship hopes go down the drain in one swoop.

We've literally got you at the perfect time. On a Thursday Night, just 5 days after you have to play App.

You play 4 games in 20 days ending at Troy so your advantage is largely mitigated. Arkansas State is our third game after our second bye week in the same month so we'll be pretty fresh. Like Troy, Arkansas State also has a game the Saturday before, so playing a Thursday game is as much if a problem for you as it is us, and you to travel to Troy where we'll be on our third home game in a row.

Not as much of an advantage as you are advertising.I'd also be concerned about your offense not being able to score on the SBC's better defenses.

(10-27-2016 12:14 PM)Paraprosdokian Wrote:  I managed to piss off two trolls with one comment. Banner day.

With 178 posts to your name, you have a long way to go. To me, it's more about the narrative that I troll when in reality i'm knowledgeable about more than just App State football. While not everyone knows the details about every team, knowing few details may provide more in sight than a homer fan would think. One such example is my proclamation that Arkansas State would struggle to replace Knighten early in the season. I also suggested the two QB system was a bad omen which was ignored for the most part except by Chiefsfan. The issue was actually compounded by State hiring a middle of the road OC trying to change the blocking scheme. Now that the kinks have been worked out, it's more about Hansen's growth and the evolution of the play calling which has resulted in Arkansas State now correcting the ship, so to speak.

I also had you guys as third in my personal power rankings so I'm not sure where the hate from State fan's comes from.

(10-27-2016 12:15 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 12:02 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 11:20 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 11:16 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 11:07 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  No team with an FCS loss has won a Championship, but we've had multiple teams with FCS losses finish top 2-3 in league

the biggest difference is that in both of those situations the team that won the 6-7 league games took their conference loss in a game played week 5 or earlier.

You guys did all you could to hand GS the game we played so kudos to stAte for finally getting back on track but for the good of the conference stAte does not need to be conference champs this season. I understand that if you win all your league games you will deserve the title but at the same time that probably would be the one thing that will kill what little bit of perception bump we have this year for outsiders looking in.

I'm much more worried about APP than I am ArkST. We'll get a another look at what APP and GS are all about tonight.

You should worry about App, but there's a decent chance we'll be 5-0 in league heading down to Troy. You could do all that work beating App, and lose to us and watch the entirety of your championship hopes go down the drain in one swoop.

We've literally got you at the perfect time. On a Thursday Night, just 5 days after you have to play App.

You play 4 games in 20 days ending at Troy so your advantage is largely mitigated. Arkansas State is our third game after our second bye week in the same month so we'll be pretty fresh. Like Troy, Arkansas State also has a game the Saturday before, so playing a Thursday game is as much if a problem for you as it is us, and you to travel to Troy where we'll be on our third home game in a row.

Not as much of an advantage as you are advertising.I'd also be concerned about your offense not being able to score on the SBC's better defenses.

So if App manages to win tonight and beat Troy, State is likely to burn out from the volume of games in a short period, while Troy has one loss and App has really the easiest remaining schedule?

Both of those games are must win for Troy considering the rest of the schedule for App after that week.

(10-27-2016 12:19 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 12:14 PM)Paraprosdokian Wrote:  I managed to piss off two trolls with one comment. Banner day.

With 178 posts to your name, you have a long way to go. To me, it's more about the narrative that I troll when in reality i'm knowledgeable about more than just App State football. While not everyone knows the details about every team, knowing few details may provide more in sight than a homer fan would think. One such example is my proclamation that Arkansas State would struggle to replace Knighten early in the season. I also suggested the two QB system was a bad omen which was ignored for the most part except by Chiefsfan. The issue was actually compounded by State hiring a middle of the road OC trying to change the blocking scheme. Now that the kinks have been worked out, it's more about Hansen's growth and the evolution of the play calling which has resulted in Arkansas State now correcting the ship, so to speak.

I also had you guys as third in my personal power rankings so I'm not sure where the hate from State fan's comes from.

Don't forget to mention how humble you are, it's your best quality imo.

(10-27-2016 12:22 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 12:19 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 12:14 PM)Paraprosdokian Wrote:  I managed to piss off two trolls with one comment. Banner day.

With 178 posts to your name, you have a long way to go. To me, it's more about the narrative that I troll when in reality i'm knowledgeable about more than just App State football. While not everyone knows the details about every team, knowing few details may provide more in sight than a homer fan would think. One such example is my proclamation that Arkansas State would struggle to replace Knighten early in the season. I also suggested the two QB system was a bad omen which was ignored for the most part except by Chiefsfan. The issue was actually compounded by State hiring a middle of the road OC trying to change the blocking scheme. Now that the kinks have been worked out, it's more about Hansen's growth and the evolution of the play calling which has resulted in Arkansas State now correcting the ship, so to speak.

I also had you guys as third in my personal power rankings so I'm not sure where the hate from State fan's comes from.

Don't forget to mention how humble you are, it's your best quality imo.

Never has been a strong suit of mine. Regardless, if you take the information what it is instead of turning each and every point in to "well troll troll troll" it's going to turn in to a pissing match instead of a constructive argument. Of course in a pissing match the argument turns in to "your wrong because you said it", not because the facts are wrong.

(10-27-2016 12:19 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 12:14 PM)Paraprosdokian Wrote:  I managed to piss off two trolls with one comment. Banner day.

With 178 posts to your name, you have a long way to go. To me, it's more about the narrative that I troll when in reality i'm knowledgeable about more than just App State football. While not everyone knows the details about every team, knowing few details may provide more in sight than a homer fan would think. One such example is my proclamation that Arkansas State would struggle to replace Knighten early in the season. I also suggested the two QB system was a bad omen which was ignored for the most part except by Chiefsfan. The issue was actually compounded by State hiring a middle of the road OC trying to change the blocking scheme. Now that the kinks have been worked out, it's more about Hansen's growth and the evolution of the play calling which has resulted in Arkansas State now correcting the ship, so to speak.

I also had you guys as third in my personal power rankings so I'm not sure where the hate from State fan's comes from.

What the hell does my post count have to do with anything? This is one of three boards that I check in on regularly, and not the one I post on most frequently. Who cares?

I agree with you. I've posted pretty much the exact same thing on this board within in the last couple of days. I'm pretty far from a homer (though how would you know with my small post count, right?)

It's not that you're regularly wrong... to quote the Big Lebowski, you're not wrong, you're just an *******. Like WolfBird (though he's actually wrong a lot).

(10-27-2016 12:15 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 12:02 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 11:20 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 11:16 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 11:07 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  No team with an FCS loss has won a Championship, but we've had multiple teams with FCS losses finish top 2-3 in league

the biggest difference is that in both of those situations the team that won the 6-7 league games took their conference loss in a game played week 5 or earlier.

You guys did all you could to hand GS the game we played so kudos to stAte for finally getting back on track but for the good of the conference stAte does not need to be conference champs this season. I understand that if you win all your league games you will deserve the title but at the same time that probably would be the one thing that will kill what little bit of perception bump we have this year for outsiders looking in.

I'm much more worried about APP than I am ArkST. We'll get a another look at what APP and GS are all about tonight.

You should worry about App, but there's a decent chance we'll be 5-0 in league heading down to Troy. You could do all that work beating App, and lose to us and watch the entirety of your championship hopes go down the drain in one swoop.

We've literally got you at the perfect time. On a Thursday Night, just 5 days after you have to play App.

You play 4 games in 20 days ending at Troy so your advantage is largely mitigated. Arkansas State is our third game after our second bye week in the same month so we'll be pretty fresh. Like Troy, Arkansas State also has a game the Saturday before, so playing a Thursday game is as much if a problem for you as it is us, and you to travel to Troy where we'll be on our third home game in a row.

Not as much of an advantage as you are advertising.I'd also be concerned about your offense not being able to score on the SBC's better defenses.

I've never worried about our offense. We'll score about 20 or so every game. The question is whether our defense can hold our opponent under 20. We've got the same rest you do, but we're also going to be coming off a game against an NMSU team that is much less physical than App. There's a far better chance you leave your game banged up.

(10-27-2016 12:35 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 12:15 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 12:02 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 11:20 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 11:16 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  You guys did all you could to hand GS the game we played so kudos to stAte for finally getting back on track but for the good of the conference stAte does not need to be conference champs this season. I understand that if you win all your league games you will deserve the title but at the same time that probably would be the one thing that will kill what little bit of perception bump we have this year for outsiders looking in.

I'm much more worried about APP than I am ArkST. We'll get a another look at what APP and GS are all about tonight.

You should worry about App, but there's a decent chance we'll be 5-0 in league heading down to Troy. You could do all that work beating App, and lose to us and watch the entirety of your championship hopes go down the drain in one swoop.

We've literally got you at the perfect time. On a Thursday Night, just 5 days after you have to play App.

You play 4 games in 20 days ending at Troy so your advantage is largely mitigated. Arkansas State is our third game after our second bye week in the same month so we'll be pretty fresh. Like Troy, Arkansas State also has a game the Saturday before, so playing a Thursday game is as much if a problem for you as it is us, and you to travel to Troy where we'll be on our third home game in a row.

Not as much of an advantage as you are advertising.I'd also be concerned about your offense not being able to score on the SBC's better defenses.

I've never worried about our offense. We'll score about 20 or so every game. The question is whether our defense can hold our opponent under 20.

The offense and special teams won't be able to play the way they played against Southern. 5 turnovers against Troy would be a death knell.

(10-27-2016 12:28 PM)Paraprosdokian Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 12:19 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 12:14 PM)Paraprosdokian Wrote:  I managed to piss off two trolls with one comment. Banner day.

With 178 posts to your name, you have a long way to go. To me, it's more about the narrative that I troll when in reality i'm knowledgeable about more than just App State football. While not everyone knows the details about every team, knowing few details may provide more in sight than a homer fan would think. One such example is my proclamation that Arkansas State would struggle to replace Knighten early in the season. I also suggested the two QB system was a bad omen which was ignored for the most part except by Chiefsfan. The issue was actually compounded by State hiring a middle of the road OC trying to change the blocking scheme. Now that the kinks have been worked out, it's more about Hansen's growth and the evolution of the play calling which has resulted in Arkansas State now correcting the ship, so to speak.

I also had you guys as third in my personal power rankings so I'm not sure where the hate from State fan's comes from.

What the hell does my post count have to do with anything? This is one of three boards that I check in on regularly, and not the one I post on most frequently. Who cares?

I agree with you. I've posted pretty much the exact same thing on this board within in the last couple of days. I'm pretty far from a homer (though how would you know with my small post count, right?)

It's not that you're regularly wrong... to quote the Big Lebowski, you're not wrong, you're just an *******. Like WolfBird (though he's actually wrong a lot).

It happens. I only mean to come across as an ass when someone decides to turn a post in to "well it did come from ericsaid" instead of arguing the point being made.

(10-27-2016 12:38 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 12:35 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 12:15 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 12:02 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 11:20 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  I'm much more worried about APP than I am ArkST. We'll get a another look at what APP and GS are all about tonight.

You should worry about App, but there's a decent chance we'll be 5-0 in league heading down to Troy. You could do all that work beating App, and lose to us and watch the entirety of your championship hopes go down the drain in one swoop.

We've literally got you at the perfect time. On a Thursday Night, just 5 days after you have to play App.

You play 4 games in 20 days ending at Troy so your advantage is largely mitigated. Arkansas State is our third game after our second bye week in the same month so we'll be pretty fresh. Like Troy, Arkansas State also has a game the Saturday before, so playing a Thursday game is as much if a problem for you as it is us, and you to travel to Troy where we'll be on our third home game in a row.

Not as much of an advantage as you are advertising.I'd also be concerned about your offense not being able to score on the SBC's better defenses.

I've never worried about our offense. We'll score about 20 or so every game. The question is whether our defense can hold our opponent under 20.

The offense and special teams won't be able to play the way they played against Southern. 5 turnovers against Troy would be a death knell.

Correct. I expect we'll use a similar plan for Troy that we did for South Alabama. Do enough offensively, but mainly protect the football and force them to beat our defense.

(10-27-2016 12:41 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 12:38 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 12:35 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 12:15 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 12:02 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  You should worry about App, but there's a decent chance we'll be 5-0 in league heading down to Troy. You could do all that work beating App, and lose to us and watch the entirety of your championship hopes go down the drain in one swoop.

We've literally got you at the perfect time. On a Thursday Night, just 5 days after you have to play App.

You play 4 games in 20 days ending at Troy so your advantage is largely mitigated. Arkansas State is our third game after our second bye week in the same month so we'll be pretty fresh. Like Troy, Arkansas State also has a game the Saturday before, so playing a Thursday game is as much if a problem for you as it is us, and you to travel to Troy where we'll be on our third home game in a row.

Not as much of an advantage as you are advertising.I'd also be concerned about your offense not being able to score on the SBC's better defenses.

I've never worried about our offense. We'll score about 20 or so every game. The question is whether our defense can hold our opponent under 20.

The offense and special teams won't be able to play the way they played against Southern. 5 turnovers against Troy would be a death knell.

Correct. I expect we'll use a similar plan for Troy that we did for South Alabama. Do enough offensively, but mainly protect the football and force them to beat our defense.

With Troy coming off a short week, regardless of the outcome of the App game, the defense could be ripe for a let down after playing what will be a physical game on that Saturday. I would like to see State play to their defensive strength and play more of a smash mount style of offense in that week because if the game is close, two physical games in five days won't be easy to overcome in the second half.

Am I supposed to care what the leagues perception is to an outsider over wanting my team to win 8 games in a row and take the league again?

I'm confused I guess.

Maybe it's tough for me because I don't give a crap about perception and just like to put as many under the W column as possible.

If these guys think it'll look bad, I guess they're team should just beat us.


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(10-27-2016 12:47 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  Am I supposed to care what the leagues perception is to an outsider over wanting my team to win 8 games in a row and take the league again?

I'm confused I guess.

Maybe it's tough for me because I don't give a crap about perception and just like to put as many under the W column as possible.

If these guys think it'll look bad, I guess they're team should just beat us.


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If State can beat Troy, winning 8 games in conference is more probable than not. That's why it's important for App or Troy to win their match-up. App's schedule softens up a lot after the Troy week whereas Troy still has to play State. If App wins tonight and is able to beat Troy, the schedule sets up so that App, barring a let down, would be the favorites. At that point, if State beats Troy, the rest of their schedule is manageable enough to finish 8-0 in conference as well.

I would enjoy seeing that just to see the melt down that occurs on the C-USA board when one of their schools has to play a lowly Sun Belt team in New Orleans again.

I'd argue that Georgia State's defense is better than Arkansas State's. They are way underrated defensively. A lot of 5-0 talk heading into the Troy game from the ASU camp thinking Georgia State will be a pushover. The two teams are even matchups in my opinion.

As for playing a Saturday game, followed by a Thursday game, we've already done that. We played a very very physical Georgia State defense (the biggest defense we will face all year) and then went on the road to beat South Alabama on Thursday. The impressive part is Jordan Chunn's 65 yards and 2 TD's in the 4th QTR.

All year, Jordan Chunn gets stronger as the game goes on. He's a 4th QTR powerhouse. Southern Miss has an extremely small d-line and they thought they could stop Troy's 230 pound back being our 300+ o-line. They were mistaken. I think the plan will be to run it up the gut and wear down APP's small defense line like we did at USM. I expect Chunn to have a big 4th QTR as always. 176 vs Southern Miss and 145 vs South Alabama. He's up 816 yards on the season. Our offensive line has only given up one sack all year (2nd in the country has 4 sacks) and leads the conference in rushing average. We're pretty deep, so I'm not sure Troy is going to cave in a Thursday game like you guys imagine we could.

(10-27-2016 01:11 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  I'd argue that Georgia State's defense is better than Arkansas State's. They are way underrated defensively. A lot of 5-0 talk heading into the Troy game from the ASU camp thinking Georgia State will be a pushover. The two teams are even matchups in my opinion.

As for playing a Saturday game, followed by a Thursday game, we've already done that. We played a very very physical Georgia State defense (the biggest defense we will face all year) and then went on the road to beat South Alabama on Thursday. The impressive part is Jordan Chunn's 65 yards and 2 TD's in the 4th QTR.

All year, Jordan Chunn gets stronger as the game goes on. He's a 4th QTR powerhouse. Southern Miss has an extremely small d-line and they thought they could stop Troy's 230 pound back being our 300+ o-line. They were mistaken. I think the plan will be to run it up the gut and wear down APP's small defense line like we did at USM. I expect Chunn to have a big 4th QTR as always. 176 vs Southern Miss and 145 vs South Alabama. He's up 816 yards on the season. Our offensive line has only given up one sack all year (2nd in the country has 4 sacks) and leads the conference in rushing average. We're pretty deep, so I'm not sure Troy is going to cave in a Thursday game like you guys imagine we could.

The only points you mentioned were why the offense would be successful late in the game. No one is concerned about Troy's offense. I was only suggesting that with the physicality of the game against App, which will be a four quarter game, Troy's defense has only 5 days to bounce back and play an Arkansas State team that really has been improving every week.

Troy hasn't played against a physical TEAM (not just offense or defense) since Clemson and they will be getting two in a 5 day span. Again, this isn't about Troy's offense, this is about how the defense will hold up after being run on 45 times.

(10-27-2016 01:55 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 01:11 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  I'd argue that Georgia State's defense is better than Arkansas State's. They are way underrated defensively. A lot of 5-0 talk heading into the Troy game from the ASU camp thinking Georgia State will be a pushover. The two teams are even matchups in my opinion.

As for playing a Saturday game, followed by a Thursday game, we've already done that. We played a very very physical Georgia State defense (the biggest defense we will face all year) and then went on the road to beat South Alabama on Thursday. The impressive part is Jordan Chunn's 65 yards and 2 TD's in the 4th QTR.

All year, Jordan Chunn gets stronger as the game goes on. He's a 4th QTR powerhouse. Southern Miss has an extremely small d-line and they thought they could stop Troy's 230 pound back being our 300+ o-line. They were mistaken. I think the plan will be to run it up the gut and wear down APP's small defense line like we did at USM. I expect Chunn to have a big 4th QTR as always. 176 vs Southern Miss and 145 vs South Alabama. He's up 816 yards on the season. Our offensive line has only given up one sack all year (2nd in the country has 4 sacks) and leads the conference in rushing average. We're pretty deep, so I'm not sure Troy is going to cave in a Thursday game like you guys imagine we could.

The only points you mentioned were why the offense would be successful late in the game. No one is concerned about Troy's offense. I was only suggesting that with the physicality of the game against App, which will be a four quarter game, Troy's defense has only 5 days to bounce back and play an Arkansas State team that really has been improving every week.

Troy hasn't played against a physical TEAM (not just offense or defense) since Clemson and they will be getting two in a 5 day span. Again, this isn't about Troy's offense, this is about how the defense will hold up after being run on 45 times.

12 more carries than what teams are currently averaging per game against our D that is only allowing 3.15 yards per carry. I like our chances. But I will give some validity to what you are saying that it will be a tough stretch for TROY against 2 good teams considering the 5 day turn around.

(10-27-2016 01:55 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  The only points you mentioned were why the offense would be successful late in the game. No one is concerned about Troy's offense. I was only suggesting that with the physicality of the game against App, which will be a four quarter game, Troy's defense has only 5 days to bounce back and play an Arkansas State team that really has been improving every week.

Troy hasn't played against a physical TEAM (not just offense or defense) since Clemson and they will be getting two in a 5 day span. Again, this isn't about Troy's offense, this is about how the defense will hold up after being run on 45 times.

There's no real proof that Arkansas State is truly a physical team from top to bottom. They've not played well offensively all season regardless of how "physical" they are, and despite the "changes" that have been made. 17 points vs USA and 27 vs a GS team that nearly lost to NMSU isn't very impressive. Defensively, the jury is still out. Their defense beat a GS team that has been anemic all season and a USA team that hasn't scored much in SBC play at all. They're 2-0 in SBC play, but that's deceptive. ASU could be the real deal, not doubting that, but the jury's still out until they play a few more games. We're also assuming Troy won't also get better in the next few games.

(10-27-2016 02:05 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 01:55 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  The only points you mentioned were why the offense would be successful late in the game. No one is concerned about Troy's offense. I was only suggesting that with the physicality of the game against App, which will be a four quarter game, Troy's defense has only 5 days to bounce back and play an Arkansas State team that really has been improving every week.

Troy hasn't played against a physical TEAM (not just offense or defense) since Clemson and they will be getting two in a 5 day span. Again, this isn't about Troy's offense, this is about how the defense will hold up after being run on 45 times.

There's no real proof that Arkansas State is truly a physical team from top to bottom. They've not played well offensively all season regardless of how "physical" they are, and despite the "changes" that have been made. 17 points vs USA and 27 vs a GS team that nearly lost to NMSU isn't very impressive. Defensively, the jury is still out. Their defense beat a GS team that has been anemic all season and a USA team that hasn't scored much in SBC play at all. They're 2-0 in SBC play, but that's deceptive. ASU could be the real deal, not doubting that, but the jury's still out until they play a few more games.

with Woodson-Luster or whatever in the hell his name is, Money Hunter and a few others still there I won't discount the talent that they have on defense. That same USA team only scored 7 points on ASU and Southern still scored less, and only scored 3 points off of 5, yes 5 turnovers. That is the mark of a good defense when playing almost an FBS school.

The offense can be physical and they have Paschal who is a big physical receiver. How do Troy's corners and second level respond after being cut blocked for four quarters? Everything at this point is speculation and i'm not saying Troy won't be fine after a physical game, I'm only saying that it's possible that it wears them down.