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04-jawdrop WHO CARES; we WON!! Should be Div II anyway!! 03-nutkick
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(10-22-2016 10:14 PM)OWLmanz Wrote:  04-jawdrop WHO CARES; we WON!! Should be Div II anyway!! 03-nutkick

PV isn't D II btw. I guess you meant FCS, formerly 1-AA.
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All of their scoring came on big plays, as is the usual case for this team this year. PV figured out they could do the same when they adjusted at halftime. I agree from the other thread that this effort won't beat anyone else on the schedule
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I had thought the UTEP game might be winnable as they had played horrid up until yesterday. The beat UTSA in San Antonio in 5 OT....a much better win than ours.
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Another game where Rice looks great at the beginning and other team adjusts and then has success. Glad to get a W but same theme literally in every game this season. In game adjustment advantage goes to whoever is playing Rice.
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(10-23-2016 08:13 AM)owl40 Wrote:  Another game where Rice looks great at the beginning and other team adjusts and then has success. Glad to get a W but same theme literally in every game this season. In game adjustment advantage goes to whoever is playing Rice.

Same theme for the last 10 years. Seriously.
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(10-23-2016 08:13 AM)owl40 Wrote:  Another game where Rice looks great at the beginning and other team adjusts and then has success. Glad to get a W but same theme literally in every game this season. In game adjustment advantage goes to whoever is playing Rice.

And nothing to do with the bench getting playing time . . . . . Tiki is the only poster I've seen that has alluded to that factor ("Clearly our backups are nowhere capable of playing at the DI level.") , and I think he might be spot on unfortunately.
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Small picture....I saw all the regulars such as Lyons, Ellerbee, Schantz, Banks, etc. all in the game late in the 4Q. I know some 2nd team guys were getting rotated in for a few snaps in but to say the benchwarmers were the reason for PVAM putting up 450+ yards of offense is simply not accurate.

Bigger picture....in all 7 games this year, Rice has looked great in the 1Q and looked terrible in the 2H. That is why this team is 1-5 vs. 3-3 or 4-2 and not competitive in the losses. When you see a few datapoints that is one thing but when you have 100% of the datapoints tell same story that is another. Whether it is PVAM, Baylor, Army, or some directional C-USA school...Groundhog Day.
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And that fact is a compelling indicator that the problem is coaching.


(10-23-2016 10:36 AM)owl40 Wrote:  Small picture....I saw all the regulars such as Lyons, Ellerbee, Schantz, Banks, etc. all in the game late in the 4Q. I know some 2nd team guys were getting rotated in for a few snaps in but to say the benchwarmers were the reason for PVAM putting up 450+ yards of offense is simply not accurate.

Bigger picture....in all 7 games this year, Rice has looked great in the 1Q and looked terrible in the 2H. That is why this team is 1-5 vs. 3-3 or 4-2 and not competitive in the losses. When you see a few datapoints that is one thing but when you have 100% of the datapoints tell same story that is another. Whether it is PVAM, Baylor, Army, or some directional C-USA school...Groundhog Day.
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If our WR's were better, we could see Stehling putting up these kinds of numbers with regularity. He has a good arm and good touch. Our WR's made some good catches and made plays yesterday; they got open vs this defense, but can't vs better defenses, or so it seems. I don't think Stehling does as good a job of making something happen when it's not there, or of finding the broken coverage when it happens, as for example, Driphus did, though he's a better overall thrower. Maybe this game gives him the confidence to step it up versus better teams, but so far vs decent defenses our offense is mediocre, at best. What our pass game looked like yesterday is what most teams with a decent pass game look like vs our defense.

Would've liked to see more of Granato. Even in this kind of game the coaches couldn't find a way to get him a drive or two where he actually throws. The defense giving up that many points is disappointing, after they seemed to play their best game vs UTSA, but it happened after the game was practically over with our offense outscoring them 42-0 (their 7 was a KO return).
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Why certain posters continue to defend the status quo is beyond me. Our own AD's stated goals is to have top 25 programs. Hell, if FB were top 50 we would be relatively happy( taking into account that people generally want more, see Rice baseball now).
They need to act or dump football. Instead funnel $$ into WBB, MBB, track, swimming etc where a much higher % of the top athletes actually care about classes. These athletes get into the Olympic games, and generate great PR for their respective universities. The facility upgrades for all of these combined would be less than FB, and lots of salary $$ would be freed up to cover hires for these sports
That's "unconventional wisdom"
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(10-23-2016 08:47 AM)Rick Gerlach Wrote:  
(10-23-2016 08:13 AM)owl40 Wrote:  Another game where Rice looks great at the beginning and other team adjusts and then has success. Glad to get a W but same theme literally in every game this season. In game adjustment advantage goes to whoever is playing Rice.

And nothing to do with the bench getting playing time . . . . . Tiki is the only poster I've seen that has alluded to that factor ("Clearly our backups are nowhere capable of playing at the DI level.") , and I think he might be spot on unfortunately.

Rick, stop with your excuses-- the starters played most of, if not the entire, 3Q, when we stunk up the joint.
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(10-23-2016 11:09 AM)HawaiiOwl Wrote:  Why certain posters continue to defend the status quo is beyond me. Our own AD's stated goals is to have top 25 programs. Hell, if FB were top 50 we would be relatively happy( taking into account that people generally want more, see Rice baseball now).
They need to act or dump football. Instead funnel $$ into WBB, MBB, track, swimming etc where a much higher % of the top athletes actually care about classes. These athletes get into the Olympic games, and generate great PR for their respective universities. The facility upgrades for all of these combined would be less than FB, and lots of salary $$ would be freed up to cover hires for these sports
That's "unconventional wisdom"

In what conference would you have us play?
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(10-22-2016 07:49 PM)greyowl72 Wrote:  -The MOB seemed to have a very nice volume/sound today. Maybe a few more members present ? Impressed with Grungy's old school uniform. I think I remember those!

It was all of us alumni MOB members performing, obviously....
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How were the bands at halftime? Did they both get enough time? Did the crowd enjoy them? Any buyout checks presented?
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(10-25-2016 11:42 AM)GoodOwl Wrote:  How were the bands at halftime? Did they both get enough time? Did the crowd enjoy them? Any buyout checks presented?

The Marching Storm was outstanding. They're big, loud, brassy and full of energy. (see Tiki's video in its own thread) Someone in our section commented as they entered their seating area they had more tubas than the MOB has members.

They got "enough" time, but I would have been happy had they received more.

And yes, the crowd enjoyed them tremendously (see the female fan in Tiki's video on her feet, as an example). I think it was the loudest and longest applause for an opposing team's band I've ever experienced at HRS.

The MOB seemed even smaller than usual when they had to follow the Storm, but they did have a couple of funny moments, e.g., when the announcer talked about the diverse international student body at Rice exposing Rice students to many forms of exotic dancing and the MOB starts playing "The Stripper" while poor Chuck is waving his arms "no, stop" from the home side (MOB was facing the visitors side). When he finally regained control and stopped "The Stripper", the MOB played "Walk Like an Egyptian". It made me smile.

The big checks were not so big this year with the exception of the $4.4M check from the golden anniversary class. Maybe some of that could be applied to a buyout?
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(10-25-2016 12:58 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  
(10-25-2016 11:42 AM)GoodOwl Wrote:  How were the bands at halftime? Did they both get enough time? Did the crowd enjoy them? Any buyout checks presented?

The Marching Storm was outstanding. They're big, loud, brassy and full of energy. (see Tiki's video in its own thread) Someone in our section commented as they entered their seating area they had more tubas than the MOB has members.

They got "enough" time, but I would have been happy had they received more.

And yes, the crowd enjoyed them tremendously (see the female fan in Tiki's video on her feet, as an example). I think it was the loudest and longest applause for an opposing team's band I've ever experienced at HRS.

The MOB seemed even smaller than usual when they had to follow the Storm, but they did have a couple of funny moments, e.g., when the announcer talked about the diverse international student body at Rice exposing Rice students to many forms of exotic dancing and the MOB starts playing "The Stripper" while poor Chuck is waving his arms "no, stop" from the home side (MOB was facing the visitors side). When he finally regained control and stopped "The Stripper", the MOB played "Walk Like an Egyptian". It made me smile.

The big checks were not so big this year with the exception of the $4.4M check from the golden anniversary class. Maybe some of that could be applied to a buyout?

The Storm was amazing.
A tip of my tall, fuzzy, white hat to them.
They were painfully loud from the bench, where I was waiting to go on, but not hugely blatty, like the Troy band was at the New Orleans Bowl.

I counted 20 sousaphones, and there are more MOBsters than that, just to be needlessly accurate.

I had two suggestions prior to the game - one was to go on first, before the Storm.
The other was to say "Hey, y'know what? Why don't you use our half of halftime too and show us what you've got? We'll make popcorn."

I can understand why my ideas weren't used, but still...

I'm pleased that the jokes we did were understood.
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(10-25-2016 02:01 PM)Grungy Wrote:  
(10-25-2016 12:58 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  
(10-25-2016 11:42 AM)GoodOwl Wrote:  How were the bands at halftime? Did they both get enough time? Did the crowd enjoy them? Any buyout checks presented?

The Marching Storm was outstanding. They're big, loud, brassy and full of energy. (see Tiki's video in its own thread) Someone in our section commented as they entered their seating area they had more tubas than the MOB has members.

They got "enough" time, but I would have been happy had they received more.

And yes, the crowd enjoyed them tremendously (see the female fan in Tiki's video on her feet, as an example). I think it was the loudest and longest applause for an opposing team's band I've ever experienced at HRS.

The MOB seemed even smaller than usual when they had to follow the Storm, but they did have a couple of funny moments, e.g., when the announcer talked about the diverse international student body at Rice exposing Rice students to many forms of exotic dancing and the MOB starts playing "The Stripper" while poor Chuck is waving his arms "no, stop" from the home side (MOB was facing the visitors side). When he finally regained control and stopped "The Stripper", the MOB played "Walk Like an Egyptian". It made me smile.

The big checks were not so big this year with the exception of the $4.4M check from the golden anniversary class. Maybe some of that could be applied to a buyout?

The Storm was amazing.
A tip of my tall, fuzzy, white hat to them.
They were painfully loud from the bench, where I was waiting to go on, but not hugely blatty, like the Troy band was at the New Orleans Bowl.

I counted 20 sousaphones, and there are more MOBsters than that, just to be needlessly accurate.

I had two suggestions prior to the game - one was to go on first, before the Storm.
The other was to say "Hey, y'know what? Why don't you use our half of halftime too and show us what you've got? We'll make popcorn."

I can understand why my ideas weren't used, but still...

I'm pleased that the jokes we did were understood.

We commented on your tall fuzzy white hat and the fact the uniform still fit. I'm impressed and jealous (about the fitting part).

I like both of your pre-game suggestions. I had similar thoughts.

And I will say, the new speaker system makes it actually possible to clearly hear the jokes for the first time in many years!

As to the number of tubas, sure seemed like more than that when they were marching down the stairs on the northeast end of the stadium. I'll have to go back to some pictures I took and count.
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(10-25-2016 03:22 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  
(10-25-2016 02:01 PM)Grungy Wrote:  
(10-25-2016 12:58 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  
(10-25-2016 11:42 AM)GoodOwl Wrote:  How were the bands at halftime? Did they both get enough time? Did the crowd enjoy them? Any buyout checks presented?

The Marching Storm was outstanding. They're big, loud, brassy and full of energy. (see Tiki's video in its own thread) Someone in our section commented as they entered their seating area they had more tubas than the MOB has members.

They got "enough" time, but I would have been happy had they received more.

And yes, the crowd enjoyed them tremendously (see the female fan in Tiki's video on her feet, as an example). I think it was the loudest and longest applause for an opposing team's band I've ever experienced at HRS.

The MOB seemed even smaller than usual when they had to follow the Storm, but they did have a couple of funny moments, e.g., when the announcer talked about the diverse international student body at Rice exposing Rice students to many forms of exotic dancing and the MOB starts playing "The Stripper" while poor Chuck is waving his arms "no, stop" from the home side (MOB was facing the visitors side). When he finally regained control and stopped "The Stripper", the MOB played "Walk Like an Egyptian". It made me smile.

The big checks were not so big this year with the exception of the $4.4M check from the golden anniversary class. Maybe some of that could be applied to a buyout?

The Storm was amazing.
A tip of my tall, fuzzy, white hat to them.
They were painfully loud from the bench, where I was waiting to go on, but not hugely blatty, like the Troy band was at the New Orleans Bowl.

I counted 20 sousaphones, and there are more MOBsters than that, just to be needlessly accurate.

I had two suggestions prior to the game - one was to go on first, before the Storm.
The other was to say "Hey, y'know what? Why don't you use our half of halftime too and show us what you've got? We'll make popcorn."

I can understand why my ideas weren't used, but still...

I'm pleased that the jokes we did were understood.

We commented on your tall fuzzy white hat and the fact the uniform still fit. I'm impressed and jealous (about the fitting part).

I like both of your pre-game suggestions. I had similar thoughts.

And I will say, the new speaker system makes it actually possible to clearly hear the jokes for the first time in many years!

As to the number of tubas, sure seemed like more than that when they were marching down the stairs on the northeast end of the stadium. I'll have to go back to some pictures I took and count.

Thank ya'll for the info. Glad you had fun and enjoyed this aspect of the gameday.
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(10-23-2016 11:04 AM)Buho00 Wrote:  If our WR's were better, we could see Stehling putting up these kinds of numbers with regularity. He has a good arm and good touch. Our WR's made some good catches and made plays yesterday; they got open vs this defense, but can't vs better defenses, or so it seems. I don't think Stehling does as good a job of making something happen when it's not there, or of finding the broken coverage when it happens, as for example, Driphus did, though he's a better overall thrower. Maybe this game gives him the confidence to step it up versus better teams, but so far vs decent defenses our offense is mediocre, at best. What our pass game looked like yesterday is what most teams with a decent pass game look like vs our defense.

Would've liked to see more of Granato. Even in this kind of game the coaches couldn't find a way to get him a drive or two where he actually throws. The defense giving up that many points is disappointing, after they seemed to play their best game vs UTSA, but it happened after the game was practically over with our offense outscoring them 42-0 (their 7 was a KO return).

Totally disagree on WR and QB. I was at the game and honestly Stehling cannot hit a receiver outside of his first option. He does not know how to go through his progressions. He stares at the first option and that's it. As bad I think DJ was last year TS is worst. BTW when the new coach comes in and opens up the competition, I predict Granato will not be on the field. The freshman on the scout team is a much better QB.
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