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RE: Dekalb for Homecoming
(10-26-2016 03:34 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Here are the events from this year on top of the previous 5 years...

2011 Kansas
2012 Nothing
2013 Nothing
2014 Nothing
2015 Rich Homie Quan
2016 Nothing

Please include the CAB events in your research.
10-26-2016 05:25 PM
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RE: Dekalb for Homecoming
(10-26-2016 05:25 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  
(10-26-2016 03:34 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Here are the events from this year on top of the previous 5 years...

2011 Kansas
2012 Nothing
2013 Nothing
2014 Nothing
2015 Rich Homie Quan
2016 Nothing

Please include the CAB events in your research.

Dtown, I am sure you have the facts since you made the original statement. Please outline what crimes were committed also.
10-26-2016 06:49 PM
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RE: Dekalb for Homecoming
(10-26-2016 06:49 PM)niu1980 Wrote:  
(10-26-2016 05:25 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  
(10-26-2016 03:34 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Here are the events from this year on top of the previous 5 years...

2011 Kansas
2012 Nothing
2013 Nothing
2014 Nothing
2015 Rich Homie Quan
2016 Nothing

Please include the CAB events in your research.

Dtown, I am sure you have the facts since you made the original statement. Please outline what crimes were committed also.

I'm not sure if you seriously don't realize that there is a significant crime problem in DeKalb. Unfortunately there is a significant amount of gun violence occurring. As far as stats, let's talk about this weekend. There were 2 shootings (thankfully no one was struck). The one that had an arrest made was committed by someone visiting DeKalb for homecoming weekend. These types of incidents correlate with dances where nonstudent guests are allowed to attend. Maybe you really don't know what happens after the game ends each year but the huge influx of state police and other police agencies isn't because there haven't been problems. This has gone back 10 years where outside help has been brought in to police the town.
10-26-2016 08:19 PM
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RE: Dekalb for Homecoming
(10-26-2016 08:19 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  
(10-26-2016 06:49 PM)niu1980 Wrote:  
(10-26-2016 05:25 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  
(10-26-2016 03:34 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Here are the events from this year on top of the previous 5 years...

2011 Kansas
2012 Nothing
2013 Nothing
2014 Nothing
2015 Rich Homie Quan
2016 Nothing

Please include the CAB events in your research.



Dtown, I am sure you have the facts since you made the original statement. Please outline what crimes were committed also.

I'm not sure if you seriously don't realize that there is a significant crime problem in DeKalb. Unfortunately there is a significant amount of gun violence occurring. As far as stats, let's talk about this weekend. There were 2 shootings (thankfully no one was struck). The one that had an arrest made was committed by someone visiting DeKalb for homecoming weekend. These types of incidents correlate with dances where nonstudent guests are allowed to attend. Maybe you really don't know what happens after the game ends each year but the huge influx of state police and other police agencies isn't because there haven't been problems. This has gone back 10 years where outside help has been brought in to police the town.

Dtown,
My concern is that many posters have implied that crime in DeKalb is some how worse then other college communities in Illinois possibly causing families to send their kids to other schools or at least raising a concern that simply is not true.

According to Neighborhood Scout statistics the risk of violent crime in DeKalb per 1000 residents (4.40) is significantly less than Champaign (7.40) and Carbondale (5.86) and only slightly higher than Bloomington (4.15).

According to FBI statistics DeKalb is not in the top 10 Illinois cities for risk of violent crime but Champaign and Bloomington are.

According to REBOOT Illinois campus crime statistics per 1000 students, UIC is first, Illinois State is second, NIU is third, U of I is forth and Northwestern is fifth. NIU is behind Notre Dame when comparing those two schools.

My point is essentially all Illinois schools and communities have challenges with violent crime so why go out of your way as presumably a NIU supporter, to make NIU and DeKalb appear to be out of the norm and more dangerous than others.
10-27-2016 02:02 PM
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RE: Dekalb for Homecoming
(10-27-2016 02:02 PM)niu1980 Wrote:  
(10-26-2016 08:19 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  
(10-26-2016 06:49 PM)niu1980 Wrote:  
(10-26-2016 05:25 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  
(10-26-2016 03:34 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Here are the events from this year on top of the previous 5 years...

2011 Kansas
2012 Nothing
2013 Nothing
2014 Nothing
2015 Rich Homie Quan
2016 Nothing

Please include the CAB events in your research.



Dtown, I am sure you have the facts since you made the original statement. Please outline what crimes were committed also.

I'm not sure if you seriously don't realize that there is a significant crime problem in DeKalb. Unfortunately there is a significant amount of gun violence occurring. As far as stats, let's talk about this weekend. There were 2 shootings (thankfully no one was struck). The one that had an arrest made was committed by someone visiting DeKalb for homecoming weekend. These types of incidents correlate with dances where nonstudent guests are allowed to attend. Maybe you really don't know what happens after the game ends each year but the huge influx of state police and other police agencies isn't because there haven't been problems. This has gone back 10 years where outside help has been brought in to police the town.

Dtown,
My concern is that many posters have implied that crime in DeKalb is some how worse then other college communities in Illinois possibly causing families to send their kids to other schools or at least raising a concern that simply is not true.

According to Neighborhood Scout statistics the risk of violent crime in DeKalb per 1000 residents (4.40) is significantly less than Champaign (7.40) and Carbondale (5.86) and only slightly higher than Bloomington (4.15).

According to FBI statistics DeKalb is not in the top 10 Illinois cities for risk of violent crime but Champaign and Bloomington are.

According to REBOOT Illinois campus crime statistics per 1000 students, UIC is first, Illinois State is second, NIU is third, U of I is forth and Northwestern is fifth. NIU is behind Notre Dame when comparing those two schools.

My point is essentially all Illinois schools and communities have challenges with violent crime so why go out of your way as presumably a NIU supporter, to make NIU and DeKalb appear to be out of the norm and more dangerous than others.

There seems to be a perception that NIU is worse, and I don't know where that came from. I suppose the other state schools are just more distant, so you don't hear about the crime that happens there.
10-27-2016 05:23 PM
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RE: Dekalb for Homecoming
(10-27-2016 02:02 PM)niu1980 Wrote:  
(10-26-2016 08:19 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  
(10-26-2016 06:49 PM)niu1980 Wrote:  
(10-26-2016 05:25 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  
(10-26-2016 03:34 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Here are the events from this year on top of the previous 5 years...

2011 Kansas
2012 Nothing
2013 Nothing
2014 Nothing
2015 Rich Homie Quan
2016 Nothing

Please include the CAB events in your research.



Dtown, I am sure you have the facts since you made the original statement. Please outline what crimes were committed also.

I'm not sure if you seriously don't realize that there is a significant crime problem in DeKalb. Unfortunately there is a significant amount of gun violence occurring. As far as stats, let's talk about this weekend. There were 2 shootings (thankfully no one was struck). The one that had an arrest made was committed by someone visiting DeKalb for homecoming weekend. These types of incidents correlate with dances where nonstudent guests are allowed to attend. Maybe you really don't know what happens after the game ends each year but the huge influx of state police and other police agencies isn't because there haven't been problems. This has gone back 10 years where outside help has been brought in to police the town.

Dtown,
My concern is that many posters have implied that crime in DeKalb is some how worse then other college communities in Illinois possibly causing families to send their kids to other schools or at least raising a concern that simply is not true.

According to Neighborhood Scout statistics the risk of violent crime in DeKalb per 1000 residents (4.40) is significantly less than Champaign (7.40) and Carbondale (5.86) and only slightly higher than Bloomington (4.15).

According to FBI statistics DeKalb is not in the top 10 Illinois cities for risk of violent crime but Champaign and Bloomington are.

According to REBOOT Illinois campus crime statistics per 1000 students, UIC is first, Illinois State is second, NIU is third, U of I is forth and Northwestern is fifth. NIU is behind Notre Dame when comparing those two schools.

My point is essentially all Illinois schools and communities have challenges with violent crime so why go out of your way as presumably a NIU supporter, to make NIU and DeKalb appear to be out of the norm and more dangerous than others.

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10-27-2016 05:37 PM
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RE: Dekalb for Homecoming
(10-27-2016 02:02 PM)niu1980 Wrote:  
(10-26-2016 08:19 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  
(10-26-2016 06:49 PM)niu1980 Wrote:  
(10-26-2016 05:25 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  
(10-26-2016 03:34 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Here are the events from this year on top of the previous 5 years...

2011 Kansas
2012 Nothing
2013 Nothing
2014 Nothing
2015 Rich Homie Quan
2016 Nothing

Please include the CAB events in your research.



Dtown, I am sure you have the facts since you made the original statement. Please outline what crimes were committed also.

I'm not sure if you seriously don't realize that there is a significant crime problem in DeKalb. Unfortunately there is a significant amount of gun violence occurring. As far as stats, let's talk about this weekend. There were 2 shootings (thankfully no one was struck). The one that had an arrest made was committed by someone visiting DeKalb for homecoming weekend. These types of incidents correlate with dances where nonstudent guests are allowed to attend. Maybe you really don't know what happens after the game ends each year but the huge influx of state police and other police agencies isn't because there haven't been problems. This has gone back 10 years where outside help has been brought in to police the town.

Dtown,
My concern is that many posters have implied that crime in DeKalb is some how worse then other college communities in Illinois possibly causing families to send their kids to other schools or at least raising a concern that simply is not true.

According to Neighborhood Scout statistics the risk of violent crime in DeKalb per 1000 residents (4.40) is significantly less than Champaign (7.40) and Carbondale (5.86) and only slightly higher than Bloomington (4.15).

According to FBI statistics DeKalb is not in the top 10 Illinois cities for risk of violent crime but Champaign and Bloomington are.

According to REBOOT Illinois campus crime statistics per 1000 students, UIC is first, Illinois State is second, NIU is third, U of I is forth and Northwestern is fifth. NIU is behind Notre Dame when comparing those two schools.

My point is essentially all Illinois schools and communities have challenges with violent crime so why go out of your way as presumably a NIU supporter, to make NIU and DeKalb appear to be out of the norm and more dangerous than others.

I visited my buddy who was an athlete at Notre Dame when I was in college. They were actually cool with athletes and students partying in the dorms over going out in south bend. South bend is the worst college town i've ever been to.
10-27-2016 08:25 PM
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RE: Dekalb for Homecoming
(10-27-2016 02:02 PM)niu1980 Wrote:  
(10-26-2016 08:19 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  
(10-26-2016 06:49 PM)niu1980 Wrote:  
(10-26-2016 05:25 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  
(10-26-2016 03:34 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Here are the events from this year on top of the previous 5 years...

2011 Kansas
2012 Nothing
2013 Nothing
2014 Nothing
2015 Rich Homie Quan
2016 Nothing

Please include the CAB events in your research.



Dtown, I am sure you have the facts since you made the original statement. Please outline what crimes were committed also.

I'm not sure if you seriously don't realize that there is a significant crime problem in DeKalb. Unfortunately there is a significant amount of gun violence occurring. As far as stats, let's talk about this weekend. There were 2 shootings (thankfully no one was struck). The one that had an arrest made was committed by someone visiting DeKalb for homecoming weekend. These types of incidents correlate with dances where nonstudent guests are allowed to attend. Maybe you really don't know what happens after the game ends each year but the huge influx of state police and other police agencies isn't because there haven't been problems. This has gone back 10 years where outside help has been brought in to police the town.

Dtown,
My concern is that many posters have implied that crime in DeKalb is some how worse then other college communities in Illinois possibly causing families to send their kids to other schools or at least raising a concern that simply is not true.

According to Neighborhood Scout statistics the risk of violent crime in DeKalb per 1000 residents (4.40) is significantly less than Champaign (7.40) and Carbondale (5.86) and only slightly higher than Bloomington (4.15).

According to FBI statistics DeKalb is not in the top 10 Illinois cities for risk of violent crime but Champaign and Bloomington are.

According to REBOOT Illinois campus crime statistics per 1000 students, UIC is first, Illinois State is second, NIU is third, U of I is forth and Northwestern is fifth. NIU is behind Notre Dame when comparing those two schools.

My point is essentially all Illinois schools and communities have challenges with violent crime so why go out of your way as presumably a NIU supporter, to make NIU and DeKalb appear to be out of the norm and more dangerous than others.

My original post was in support of Frazier and noting that he isn't to blame for many of the problems. Don't get me wrong, I am a very proud supporter of DeKalb and NIU, more than anyone will know. My problem is that there have been some head scratching decisions made over the years that have impacted crime. Most of it is no ones faults directly, I get that. I've often been accused of minimizing the problems so I don't go out of my way to make it seem bad. I am very familiar with the stats you mention and follow them closely. The biggest problem here is that most of the crime occurs in close proximity to NIU so that impacts the Clery stats and scares people away. Crime in most of the places you mention isn't near campus so that doesn't hurt their image. I've spoken to many parents while promoting NIU, I'm not affiliated, but many have a negative perception. Anyway, I do support NIU and the community so that's why I wanted to avoid any conflict about this issue. Much more can be done to improve our image though and Frazier is not the one at fault.
10-27-2016 09:54 PM
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