Those 2 videos O'Keefe did have about 9 Million views, that is pretty cool.

Cameras rolling as people speak is now "editing".

(10-21-2016 08:16 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Cameras rolling as people speak is now "editing".

The progressive sleaze bag defense. They would not fib and joke about rigging elections and breaking the law if they only knew they were being filmed.

(10-21-2016 12:46 AM)john01992 Wrote:  The dude has a notorious track record. He dressed as a telephone repairman to gain access to a congresswomen's office probably because he wanted to buy her phone. He was arrested by the FBI and convicted for that stunt.

What a dumb***. If he'd only left classified material on the server in his basement he'd have gotten off scott-free.

(10-21-2016 07:55 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Nearly the entire left offers their opinions that his past videos have been heavily edited. You give them the links to the entire videos and they continue the editing talking point. Ask where. About all you get is that cameras were turned off during bathroom breaks. EDITED!!!

But john goes to new lows. "Investigations have taken place and no wrongdoing has been found." Yeah, just pay no attention to all those people who went to jail.

Peoples own words, ON VIDEO even, don't mean jack if it's criminality you yourself are fine with.

According to you it's an "opinion" that he he earth is round

(10-21-2016 09:30 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 07:55 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Nearly the entire left offers their opinions that his past videos have been heavily edited. You give them the links to the entire videos and they continue the editing talking point. Ask where. About all you get is that cameras were turned off during bathroom breaks. EDITED!!!

But john goes to new lows. "Investigations have taken place and no wrongdoing has been found." Yeah, just pay no attention to all those people who went to jail.

Peoples own words, ON VIDEO even, don't mean jack if it's criminality you yourself are fine with.

According to you it's an "opinion" that he he earth is round

That's the response?

What is that, an "anti-science" dig?

Have you viewed/watched the entire (past) videos? You do know they are available, in their entirety, on-line, right?

Did these people, including the convicted felon and his henchmen, say what they said in these current ones, or not?

Or does it only matter that the Trump org. cut them some gas and beer money?

Ah yes, the shoot the messenger strategy again.

"It was the Russians who leaked the info on how corrupt we are!"

"Trump's campaign paid the people who exposed our voter fraud on video!"

Like I said. It is beyond dispute that he has a track recording of doctoring videos.

(10-21-2016 09:30 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 07:55 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Nearly the entire left offers their opinions that his past videos have been heavily edited. You give them the links to the entire videos and they continue the editing talking point. Ask where. About all you get is that cameras were turned off during bathroom breaks. EDITED!!!

But john goes to new lows. "Investigations have taken place and no wrongdoing has been found." Yeah, just pay no attention to all those people who went to jail.

Peoples own words, ON VIDEO even, don't mean jack if it's criminality you yourself are fine with.

According to you it's an "opinion" that he he earth is round

Bwahahahah!

You just won the interwebs!

(10-21-2016 09:43 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  Ah yes, the shoot the messenger strategy again.

"It was the Russians who leaked the info on how corrupt we are!"

"Trump's campaign paid the people who exposed our voter fraud on video!"

It's not a shoot the messenger. It's proving that this guy has no journalistic standards whatsoever which they righties refuse to admit.

Has anyone come out to dispute the videos?

Hillary sure didnt in the debate.

(10-21-2016 09:47 AM)muffinman Wrote:  Has anyone come out to dispute the videos?

Hillary sure didnt in the debate.

Didn't that asshat lose his job over the video?

(10-20-2016 11:32 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(10-20-2016 11:29 PM)john01992 Wrote:  Given the history of O'Keefe there is no doubt he doctored the videos he just released.

Doctored? Based upon what? I'm not aware of any evidence that he has doctored videos, What evidence do you have that he has?

I think by doctored he means edited.

(10-21-2016 09:50 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 09:47 AM)muffinman Wrote:  Has anyone come out to dispute the videos?

Hillary sure didnt in the debate.

Didn't that asshat lose his job over the video?

2 asshats did so far.

(10-21-2016 09:46 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 09:43 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  Ah yes, the shoot the messenger strategy again.

"It was the Russians who leaked the info on how corrupt we are!"

"Trump's campaign paid the people who exposed our voter fraud on video!"

It's not a shoot the messenger. It's proving that this guy has no journalistic standards whatsoever which they righties refuse to admit.

Since when have journalistic standards meant anything to anyone supporting a donk for president? Okay, trick question.

(10-21-2016 09:30 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 07:55 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Nearly the entire left offers their opinions that his past videos have been heavily edited. You give them the links to the entire videos and they continue the editing talking point. Ask where. About all you get is that cameras were turned off during bathroom breaks. EDITED!!!

But john goes to new lows. "Investigations have taken place and no wrongdoing has been found." Yeah, just pay no attention to all those people who went to jail.

Peoples own words, ON VIDEO even, don't mean jack if it's criminality you yourself are fine with.

According to you it's an "opinion" that he he earth is round

(10-21-2016 12:46 AM)john01992 Wrote:  [i]Comparison of the raw video with the released one revealed editing that was characterized as "selective" and "deceptive" by Michael Gerson, opinion writer in the Washington Post,

You offered opinion as your evidence. Thus my highlighting "opinion".

(10-21-2016 09:50 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 09:47 AM)muffinman Wrote:  Has anyone come out to dispute the videos?

Hillary sure didnt in the debate.

Didn't that asshat lose his job over the video?

as I've noted in other threads. he has caused people to lose their jobs in a number of other cases only for said people to be vindicated after the issue was investigated.

people are fired because of the media shitstorm he creates. Not the merits of the video.

do you really think it is a wise move especially in a campaign to dig in on this issue? hell no. common sense says to cut the controversy and protect the organization first and foremost by amputating what attaches you to a controversy.

even if you are right you won't win digging in trying to defend yourself. especially when the cons have proven to not give a damn about the merits of the source.

I find in baffling the cons don't understand this. Okeefe has been successfully sued by someone who lost his job thanks to one of his videos.

(10-21-2016 11:38 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 09:50 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 09:47 AM)muffinman Wrote:  Has anyone come out to dispute the videos?

Hillary sure didnt in the debate.

Didn't that asshat lose his job over the video?

as I've noted in other threads. he has caused people to lose their jobs in a number of other cases only for said people to be vindicated after the issue was investigated.

people are fired because of the media shitstorm he creates. Not the merits of the video.

do you really think it is a wise move especially in a campaign to dig in on this issue? hell no. common sense says to cut the controversy and protect the organization first and foremost by amputating what attaches you to a controversy.

even if you are right you won't win digging in trying to defend yourself. especially when the cons have proven to not give a damn about the merits of the source.

I find in baffling the cons don't understand this. Okeefe has been successfully sued by someone who lost his job thanks to one of his videos.

They are not going to get it. They jumped the shark a long time ago. They think Alex Jones is good journalism.

(10-21-2016 10:26 AM)Paul M Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 09:30 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 07:55 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Nearly the entire left offers their opinions that his past videos have been heavily edited. You give them the links to the entire videos and they continue the editing talking point. Ask where. About all you get is that cameras were turned off during bathroom breaks. EDITED!!!

But john goes to new lows. "Investigations have taken place and no wrongdoing has been found." Yeah, just pay no attention to all those people who went to jail.

Peoples own words, ON VIDEO even, don't mean jack if it's criminality you yourself are fine with.

According to you it's an "opinion" that he he earth is round

(10-21-2016 12:46 AM)john01992 Wrote:  [i]Comparison of the raw video with the released one revealed editing that was characterized as "selective" and "deceptive" by Michael Gerson, opinion writer in the Washington Post,

You offered opinion as your evidence. Thus my highlighting "opinion".

like I said. it's a fact. his videos have been investigated by state AGs and congress with the end result being that the videos were doctored.

hell even a FNC host called out Okeefe for both this trump donation, his lawsuits, and his history of doctoring videos.