(10-20-2016 09:12 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(10-20-2016 08:38 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(10-20-2016 08:35 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(10-20-2016 08:28 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(10-20-2016 05:56 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  The "feces flinging monkey" beat out how many "real" Republicans?

I've figured it out. It took me a while, but I've figured it out. Paul is a HUGE fan of the GOP establishment. I'm glad I put that whiner on ignore.

Hey toad, you could have just gone up a handful of post and then not said something to make yourself look like the blathering idiot you look like right now.

The fact that you think that was what Paul the establishment stooge did to me, is quite hilarious.

Some other things that amuse me about you...
Your hero worship of Gary Johnson
Your happiness of a Hillary Clinton presidency because portfolio

Paul crushed you. deal with CONNman.

(10-20-2016 09:15 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(10-20-2016 09:11 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(10-20-2016 09:05 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(10-20-2016 08:57 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(10-20-2016 09:58 AM)bullet Wrote:  The only RINOs are the ones who use that phrase. They are generally converted Democrats who have no clue what the Republican Party has historically been about.

Trump isn't even a RINO. He's a democrat, for crying out loud. Always has been. I don't like Hillary, but I doubt seriously that we will be in a materially different place after 4 years of Trump compared with 4 years of Hillary.

But you're a liberal, Fo's a liberal, I'm a liberal for pointing out to others they voted for a Democrat for the Republican nominee.

I think we are all 3 actually Liberals..."classically" speaking. The problem is the terms don't mean anything now. For the record...Im socially liberal...fiscally UBER conservative.

Your hopefulness of a Hillary presidency because portfolio says otherwise.

Your talking points are weaker than Trumps.

(10-20-2016 09:02 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  What is going to be interesting is if the Trump wing of the party takes over. With the right candidate hus message has great appeal. Wrong guy right message. He's just too unstable.

The problem with the "Trump wing of the party" is that while they do identify some legitimate problems, their proposed solutions are nonsense.

I agree that the loss of jobs overseas is a problem. But NAFTA and TPP are not the problem. Our current tax and regulatory laws and processes are what's driving them away. You look at the economics of deals from the company perspective, and very quickly you see what are the true drivers. And simply lowering taxes the way Trump purposes blows up the deficit and debt to unsustainable levels. We need to lower tax rates and balance the budget. We do that by reducing or eliminating deductions (what democrats call "loopholes") to broaden the base, while implementing a consumption tax to close the revenue shortfall. We could have the lowest corporate tax rate, lowest personal tax rate, and lowest consumption tax rate in the developed world, and still have plenty of revenues to balance the budget. That would be an extreme growth scenario. We would probably have great difficulty building infrastructure to meet the demands of growth.

Illegal immigrants are a huge problem on many fronts. Sending 10 million people back to Mexico and building a wall are not solutions. At this point, the most logical solution is probably a permanent guest worker program, with no path to citizenship unless you came here legally.

Obamacare sucks, and single payer would be worse. Bismarck provides true universal health care (which, remember, Obamacare does not), reduces or eliminates direct government involvement in providing health care, and takes care of sick people as well as our system.

Donald Trump is whom you get for a nominee when you let the process turn into a personality contest. Republicans need to be about issues. They can offer better solutions than democrats. But they have to focus on solutions to do that. And they haven't since Newt's Contract.

(10-20-2016 09:12 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(10-20-2016 08:38 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(10-20-2016 08:35 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(10-20-2016 08:28 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(10-20-2016 05:56 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  The "feces flinging monkey" beat out how many "real" Republicans?

I've figured it out. It took me a while, but I've figured it out. Paul is a HUGE fan of the GOP establishment. I'm glad I put that whiner on ignore.

Hey toad, you could have just gone up a handful of post and then not said something to make yourself look like the blathering idiot you look like right now.

The fact that you think that was what Paul the establishment stooge did to me, is quite hilarious.

Some other things that amuse me about you...
Your hero worship of Gary Johnson
Your happiness of a Hillary Clinton presidency because portfolio

Wtf's up with your "establishment" stupidity.

Trump the Democrat stooge.

(10-20-2016 09:25 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(10-20-2016 09:02 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  What is going to be interesting is if the Trump wing of the party takes over. With the right candidate hus message has great appeal. Wrong guy right message. He's just too unstable.

The problem with the "Trump wing of the party" is that while they do identify some legitimate problems, their proposed solutions are nonsense.

I agree that the loss of jobs overseas is a problem. But NAFTA and TPP are not the problem. Our current tax and regulatory laws and processes are what's driving them away. You look at the economics of deals from the company perspective, and very quickly you see what are the true drivers. And simply lowering taxes the way Trump purposes blows up the deficit and debt to unsustainable levels. We need to lower tax rates and balance the budget. We do that by reducing or eliminating deductions (what democrats call "loopholes") to broaden the base, while implementing a consumption tax to close the revenue shortfall. We could have the lowest corporate tax rate, lowest personal tax rate, and lowest consumption tax rate in the developed world, and still have plenty of revenues to balance the budget. That would be an extreme growth scenario. We would probably have great difficulty building infrastructure to meet the demands of growth.

Illegal immigrants are a huge problem on many fronts. Sending 10 million people back to Mexico and building a wall are not solutions. At this point, the most logical solution is probably a permanent guest worker program, with no path to citizenship unless you came here legally.

Obamacare sucks, and single payer would be worse. Bismarck provides true universal health care (which, remember, Obamacare does not), reduces or eliminates direct government involvement in providing health care, and takes care of sick people as well as our system.

Donald Trump is whom you get for a nominee when you let the process turn into a personality contest. Republicans need to be about issues. They can offer better solutions than democrats. But they have to focus on solutions to do that. And they haven't since Newt's Contract.

Trump has no real solutions. The debates clearly have shown that. He does not know his ass from a hole in the ground when it comes solving anything. He is a bully with a bankroll. That has served him well in the private sector. He looks like a fcking fool trying it in the public sector.

(10-20-2016 06:59 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  People who complimented Donald in that debate thread last night is blind, clueless, and incapable of rational thought when it comes to discussing national political events. You are truly a sycophant. A zealot. The Donald is going down in FLAMES!!!!! Hillary might get to 400 electoral votes. Texas is in play FOR CRISS SAKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In last night's debate. EVERYBODY AND I MEAN EVERY SINGLE NEWS OUTLET thinks it was a horrendous debate for the Donald. Universal ridicule.

Consider me your interpreter to reality.

Welcome to Earth third rock from the sun.

Thanks for interpreting reality to me. 400 electoral votes while Trump goes down in FLAMES will be fun to watch!

(12-10-2016 05:17 PM)wahoowa Wrote:  

(10-20-2016 06:59 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  People who complimented Donald in that debate thread last night is blind, clueless, and incapable of rational thought when it comes to discussing national political events. You are truly a sycophant. A zealot. The Donald is going down in FLAMES!!!!! Hillary might get to 400 electoral votes. Texas is in play FOR CRISS SAKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In last night's debate. EVERYBODY AND I MEAN EVERY SINGLE NEWS OUTLET thinks it was a horrendous debate for the Donald. Universal ridicule.

Consider me your interpreter to reality.

Welcome to Earth third rock from the sun.

Thanks for interpreting reality to me. 400 electoral votes while Trump goes down in FLAMES will be fun to watch!

Yep, that Mach is just brilliant. i can see why he talks down to all of us deplorables. With a brain like that we are just no match for him. 400 electoral votes for Hillary?? Trump going down in flames?? Yep, his is smarter than the average bear.