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RE: Yahoo's Wetzel: 8-team playoff is Big 12's key to survival
(10-19-2016 08:31 AM)allthatyoucantleavebehind Wrote:  https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/the-on...38736.html

Forward thinking. If Big 12 gets auto-bid to 8-team playoff, it could be more advantageous for UT/OU to stick around.

He hates bowl. With a passion. Wrote "Death to the BCS."

The only hold-up I see in his plan is teams and fans like free trips during the December holidays. A first-round playoff game on home campuses...seems to eliminate that (or at least take that money/power out of the conferences hands).

All the more reason they should stay at 4 for the entirety of the contract. Make those f***ers in the Big 12 pay for their petulance.
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RE: Yahoo's Wetzel: 8-team playoff is Big 12's key to survival
(10-19-2016 04:32 PM)stever20 Wrote:  But in a 8 team situation, it's pretty easy to tell the difference like last year between Clemson and Notre Dame.

And the problem in a 8 team situation is that you are wanting 2 champions guaranteed to see each other no matter what. And some years, those teams have no business meeting in the 1st round. NONE.

I think if there was any doubt that seeds matter to the CFP was blown out of the water in the very first year where the committee could easily have had it Oregon/Ohio St and Alabama/Florida St- but didn't.

Clemson beat ND 24-22 last year in Death Valley in a monsoon. Experts say that home field advantage gives 3 points...so what was your point about the "big difference" between ND and Clemson? (And, since ND has no conference, they tend to tank whenever they lose 1 game...so who knows if they lose that 2nd game to Stanford if they are actually playing for a playoff spot?)

What I meant about seeds is just this...there is NOT a huge difference between 1 and 8...4 and 5. Seeds are still valid and necessary...but you are putting the best teams in games against each other in a playoff scenario on neutral field (first round), so that's enough for me.

If you'd rather not think of the "seed" process, fine. Re-seed them after the bowls. Ditch the CFP Tuesday night poll revelation show...and just go back to the old AP poll until after the bowls...when the committee can decide which of the 4 teams are seeded 1-4.
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RE: Yahoo's Wetzel: 8-team playoff is Big 12's key to survival
I always thought an 8-team playoff is the ideal scenario, Auto-bids for Power 5 Conferences, 1 Auto-Bid for the top-rated G5 Conference Champion, 2 wild-card slots. It allows for the arguing at the end of the year of who should be left-in and left-out like they've had since the BCS and if the Playoff with usually 1 P5 Champion left out. This time people would argue about the 2 wild-card slots and Top G5 Champion. This would make sure the Big 12 sticks around, I'm starting to think Arizona & Arizona State may be the targets in the near future for the Big 12 but would the Arizona schools actually consider the move?. The Pac-12 could survive a move like that by sticking to 10 and looking around for 2 new members.
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8 team playoff invalidates the OOC part of every FBS team. Leave it at 4 teams. The fact that a P5 conference is left out is a good thing.

Also note how bad the semifinal games were last year. Sometimes there isn't even a worthy 3 and 4 team let alone 5-8.
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RE: Yahoo's Wetzel: 8-team playoff is Big 12's key to survival
(10-20-2016 03:12 AM)allthatyoucantleavebehind Wrote:  
(10-19-2016 04:32 PM)stever20 Wrote:  But in a 8 team situation, it's pretty easy to tell the difference like last year between Clemson and Notre Dame.

And the problem in a 8 team situation is that you are wanting 2 champions guaranteed to see each other no matter what. And some years, those teams have no business meeting in the 1st round. NONE.

I think if there was any doubt that seeds matter to the CFP was blown out of the water in the very first year where the committee could easily have had it Oregon/Ohio St and Alabama/Florida St- but didn't.

Clemson beat ND 24-22 last year in Death Valley in a monsoon. Experts say that home field advantage gives 3 points...so what was your point about the "big difference" between ND and Clemson? (And, since ND has no conference, they tend to tank whenever they lose 1 game...so who knows if they lose that 2nd game to Stanford if they are actually playing for a playoff spot?)

What I meant about seeds is just this...there is NOT a huge difference between 1 and 8...4 and 5. Seeds are still valid and necessary...but you are putting the best teams in games against each other in a playoff scenario on neutral field (first round), so that's enough for me.

If you'd rather not think of the "seed" process, fine. Re-seed them after the bowls. Ditch the CFP Tuesday night poll revelation show...and just go back to the old AP poll until after the bowls...when the committee can decide which of the 4 teams are seeded 1-4.

ahhh now I got what you want. ******* tradition so you can have your precious Rose Bowl. Sorry- but that is gone and its not coming back.
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RE: Yahoo's Wetzel: 8-team playoff is Big 12's key to survival
8 school playoff, no guaranteed spots for any conferences. Top 8 schools through a transparent, defined process that includes a committee but is not exclusive to a committee (i.e., some means of including SOS that takes bias out of the selection process has to be included). 7 committee members defined and include P5 plus 2 minimum from top 2 G conferences from previous year. If conference guarantees are imposed G conferences should get 2 slots. 1 plays 8, 2 play 7 etc & these games rotate year to year among the NY6 bowls. This works & brings transparency to the process. ND is represented by the ACC committee member & since the process provides for no guaranteed access it takes care of ND, just like everyone else.
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RE: Yahoo's Wetzel: 8-team playoff is Big 12's key to survival
(10-20-2016 07:19 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-20-2016 03:12 AM)allthatyoucantleavebehind Wrote:  
(10-19-2016 04:32 PM)stever20 Wrote:  But in a 8 team situation, it's pretty easy to tell the difference like last year between Clemson and Notre Dame.

And the problem in a 8 team situation is that you are wanting 2 champions guaranteed to see each other no matter what. And some years, those teams have no business meeting in the 1st round. NONE.

I think if there was any doubt that seeds matter to the CFP was blown out of the water in the very first year where the committee could easily have had it Oregon/Ohio St and Alabama/Florida St- but didn't.

Clemson beat ND 24-22 last year in Death Valley in a monsoon. Experts say that home field advantage gives 3 points...so what was your point about the "big difference" between ND and Clemson? (And, since ND has no conference, they tend to tank whenever they lose 1 game...so who knows if they lose that 2nd game to Stanford if they are actually playing for a playoff spot?)

What I meant about seeds is just this...there is NOT a huge difference between 1 and 8...4 and 5. Seeds are still valid and necessary...but you are putting the best teams in games against each other in a playoff scenario on neutral field (first round), so that's enough for me.

If you'd rather not think of the "seed" process, fine. Re-seed them after the bowls. Ditch the CFP Tuesday night poll revelation show...and just go back to the old AP poll until after the bowls...when the committee can decide which of the 4 teams are seeded 1-4.

ahhh now I got what you want. ******* tradition so you can have your precious Rose Bowl. Sorry- but that is gone and its not coming back.

Nice try...I'm a PSU fan. The Rose Bowl doesn't mean much to me. :) I do like bowls though...free trips for the players...vacation destinations for the fans...one final send-off for your team.
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