(10-19-2016 01:56 PM)SNF6 Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:18 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 12:01 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  the ISU president isnt dumb.... He knows Texas is gone in 2025, cant leave earlier and he is tired of taking it in the backside and having to smile about it, so he let everyone in on the worst kept secret in college sports... UT and OU told the little 8 to Sit the F Down.
As soon as Texas said no to an extension on the grant of rights, I knew expansion was over.

I dont doubt at all that ESPN makes an offer to us for an extended contract. I expect it within the year. It will be a 7 year deal...which ends right about.... 2025 and it might be $4-5 million each. I doubt they help us add any MWC teams, because they would then have to compensate Boise St and the MWC for the departures.
ESPN has deals with both and to avoid interference, they would have to agree to pay the MWC the same amount even though they would have lost teams to the AAC.

If we expand, Unfortuantely it would have to be with Independents, I think.... which leaves us with Army and Umass.

Texas can't leave earlier? Maryland and BC left the ACC less than a year after signing a new GOR. Every year closer to the end of the GOR the more likely Texas is to leave, if they want to.

Who wants to deal with a bunch of Texas BS, Big X, SEC, PAC? They are a great commodity with an average athletic program that thinks their chit doesn't stink. I am sure that USC, Alabama, Michigan, Ohio State, Stanford, Texas A&M, etc, cannot wait to vote on their inclusion.

I think it is more likely that two PAC schools leave and join the Big 12. Perhaps the Zonas......when all is said and done. Thus infusing the Big 12 with new blood.

They are the 2nd most valuable brand behind Notre Dame. They can go to any conference.

(10-19-2016 01:18 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 12:01 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  the ISU president isnt dumb.... He knows Texas is gone in 2025, cant leave earlier and he is tired of taking it in the backside and having to smile about it, so he let everyone in on the worst kept secret in college sports... UT and OU told the little 8 to Sit the F Down.
As soon as Texas said no to an extension on the grant of rights, I knew expansion was over.

I dont doubt at all that ESPN makes an offer to us for an extended contract. I expect it within the year. It will be a 7 year deal...which ends right about.... 2025 and it might be $4-5 million each. I doubt they help us add any MWC teams, because they would then have to compensate Boise St and the MWC for the departures.
ESPN has deals with both and to avoid interference, they would have to agree to pay the MWC the same amount even though they would have lost teams to the AAC.

If we expand, Unfortuantely it would have to be with Independents, I think.... which leaves us with Army and Umass.

Texas can't leave earlier? Maryland and BC left the ACC less than a year after signing a new GOR. Every year closer to the end of the GOR the more likely Texas is to leave, if they want to.

They could... but where? Whos gonna give them more money than they already make? They get about $25 million from the Big 12, then add in $15 million from the LHN. $40 million isnt found just anywhere.

Best bet to get Texas out is if ESPN wants to help them move. If Texas agrees to get out of the LHN, then ESPN may be willing to continue paying the Big 12 the same amount even if Texas isnt there anymore. That avoids any lawsuits since they cant claim damages.

The LHN makes moving real tricky. Maybe the ACC who is ESPNs lackey will take them in but unless ESPN makes it worth their while, I dont see why they would. Big 10 and SEC wont take them with the LHN... the Pac 12 will, but I am not certain they want to go there.

Basically, Texas has the resources to do anything they want... but nobody can figure out what it is they want to do, other than to make more money than anyone and crap on anyone they think is beneath them...which is almost everyone.

Yup!

(10-18-2016 09:42 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 09:35 PM)CougarPoop Wrote:  Texas Tech, Iowa State, Kansas, Wake, Boston College, Vandy, Kentucky, Rutgers, ******, Cuse etc etc etc....

These teams have never accomplished jack**** on the field, never been relevant, and yet they make more than 10 times what we make.

And they just snicker about it.

I hope when the B12 explodes and some of these scrubs are looking for a lifeline that we tell them to go to hell. They can go to the sunbelt.

Every conference needs academically gifted and culturally amicable losers. Someone has to pump wins into the bellcow every year. There are other reasons, too: Vandy, for instance, will never be asked to leave due to the FOIA.

Wake Forest and Boston College are very attractive universities to have as "designated losers" for the ACC.

This isn't about wins and losses. This was about culture, connections, and friendships - and in the most recent wave it is about TV revenue.

Wake Forest University, yes, that Wake Forest, won the ACC championship in football in 2006. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_ACC_C...nship_Game

Like Tulane, once in a while, the football gods have mercy.

(10-19-2016 04:43 PM)chess Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 09:42 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 09:35 PM)CougarPoop Wrote:  Texas Tech, Iowa State, Kansas, Wake, Boston College, Vandy, Kentucky, Rutgers, ******, Cuse etc etc etc....

These teams have never accomplished jack**** on the field, never been relevant, and yet they make more than 10 times what we make.

And they just snicker about it.

I hope when the B12 explodes and some of these scrubs are looking for a lifeline that we tell them to go to hell. They can go to the sunbelt.

Every conference needs academically gifted and culturally amicable losers. Someone has to pump wins into the bellcow every year. There are other reasons, too: Vandy, for instance, will never be asked to leave due to the FOIA.

Wake Forest and Boston College are very attractive universities to have as "designated losers" for the ACC.

This isn't about wins and losses. This was about culture, connections, and friendships - and in the most recent wave it is about TV revenue.

Wake Forest University, yes, that Wake Forest, won the ACC championship in football in 2006. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_ACC_C...nship_Game

Like Tulane, once in a while, the football gods have mercy.

Yes, and they lost 4 games and got drilled by Louisvlle of the Big East in the Orange Bowl.

(10-19-2016 04:43 PM)chess Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 09:42 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 09:35 PM)CougarPoop Wrote:  Texas Tech, Iowa State, Kansas, Wake, Boston College, Vandy, Kentucky, Rutgers, ******, Cuse etc etc etc....

These teams have never accomplished jack**** on the field, never been relevant, and yet they make more than 10 times what we make.

And they just snicker about it.

I hope when the B12 explodes and some of these scrubs are looking for a lifeline that we tell them to go to hell. They can go to the sunbelt.

Every conference needs academically gifted and culturally amicable losers. Someone has to pump wins into the bellcow every year. There are other reasons, too: Vandy, for instance, will never be asked to leave due to the FOIA.

Wake Forest and Boston College are very attractive universities to have as "designated losers" for the ACC.

This isn't about wins and losses. This was about culture, connections, and friendships - and in the most recent wave it is about TV revenue.

Wake Forest University, yes, that Wake Forest, won the ACC championship in football in 2006. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_ACC_C...nship_Game

Like Tulane, once in a while, the football gods have mercy.

Yes, that Wake Forest lost 4 games and got drilled by Louisvlle of the Big East in the Orange Bowl.

(10-19-2016 02:04 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:56 PM)SNF6 Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:18 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 12:01 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  the ISU president isnt dumb.... He knows Texas is gone in 2025, cant leave earlier and he is tired of taking it in the backside and having to smile about it, so he let everyone in on the worst kept secret in college sports... UT and OU told the little 8 to Sit the F Down.
As soon as Texas said no to an extension on the grant of rights, I knew expansion was over.

I dont doubt at all that ESPN makes an offer to us for an extended contract. I expect it within the year. It will be a 7 year deal...which ends right about.... 2025 and it might be $4-5 million each. I doubt they help us add any MWC teams, because they would then have to compensate Boise St and the MWC for the departures.
ESPN has deals with both and to avoid interference, they would have to agree to pay the MWC the same amount even though they would have lost teams to the AAC.

If we expand, Unfortuantely it would have to be with Independents, I think.... which leaves us with Army and Umass.

Texas can't leave earlier? Maryland and BC left the ACC less than a year after signing a new GOR. Every year closer to the end of the GOR the more likely Texas is to leave, if they want to.

Who wants to deal with a bunch of Texas BS, Big X, SEC, PAC? They are a great commodity with an average athletic program that thinks their chit doesn't stink. I am sure that USC, Alabama, Michigan, Ohio State, Stanford, Texas A&M, etc, cannot wait to vote on their inclusion.

I think it is more likely that two PAC schools leave and join the Big 12. Perhaps the Zonas......when all is said and done. Thus infusing the Big 12 with new blood.

They are the 2nd most valuable brand behind Notre Dame. They can go to any conference.

Not the SEC without an attitude check. TAMU would veto them

(10-19-2016 05:04 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 02:04 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:56 PM)SNF6 Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:18 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 12:01 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  the ISU president isnt dumb.... He knows Texas is gone in 2025, cant leave earlier and he is tired of taking it in the backside and having to smile about it, so he let everyone in on the worst kept secret in college sports... UT and OU told the little 8 to Sit the F Down.
As soon as Texas said no to an extension on the grant of rights, I knew expansion was over.

I dont doubt at all that ESPN makes an offer to us for an extended contract. I expect it within the year. It will be a 7 year deal...which ends right about.... 2025 and it might be $4-5 million each. I doubt they help us add any MWC teams, because they would then have to compensate Boise St and the MWC for the departures.
ESPN has deals with both and to avoid interference, they would have to agree to pay the MWC the same amount even though they would have lost teams to the AAC.

If we expand, Unfortuantely it would have to be with Independents, I think.... which leaves us with Army and Umass.

Texas can't leave earlier? Maryland and BC left the ACC less than a year after signing a new GOR. Every year closer to the end of the GOR the more likely Texas is to leave, if they want to.

Who wants to deal with a bunch of Texas BS, Big X, SEC, PAC? They are a great commodity with an average athletic program that thinks their chit doesn't stink. I am sure that USC, Alabama, Michigan, Ohio State, Stanford, Texas A&M, etc, cannot wait to vote on their inclusion.

I think it is more likely that two PAC schools leave and join the Big 12. Perhaps the Zonas......when all is said and done. Thus infusing the Big 12 with new blood.

They are the 2nd most valuable brand behind Notre Dame. They can go to any conference.

Not the SEC without an attitude check. TAMU would veto them

This is how that would go.
TAMU: We've been in the same conference as Texas and we'd ask you all to respect our wish to not repeat that experience.
SEC: We respect and understand your position. So let's get this formality on the record and out of the way. All in favor of revoking TAMUs membership?

(10-19-2016 05:04 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 02:04 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:56 PM)SNF6 Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:18 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 12:01 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  the ISU president isnt dumb.... He knows Texas is gone in 2025, cant leave earlier and he is tired of taking it in the backside and having to smile about it, so he let everyone in on the worst kept secret in college sports... UT and OU told the little 8 to Sit the F Down.
As soon as Texas said no to an extension on the grant of rights, I knew expansion was over.

I dont doubt at all that ESPN makes an offer to us for an extended contract. I expect it within the year. It will be a 7 year deal...which ends right about.... 2025 and it might be $4-5 million each. I doubt they help us add any MWC teams, because they would then have to compensate Boise St and the MWC for the departures.
ESPN has deals with both and to avoid interference, they would have to agree to pay the MWC the same amount even though they would have lost teams to the AAC.

If we expand, Unfortuantely it would have to be with Independents, I think.... which leaves us with Army and Umass.

Texas can't leave earlier? Maryland and BC left the ACC less than a year after signing a new GOR. Every year closer to the end of the GOR the more likely Texas is to leave, if they want to.

Who wants to deal with a bunch of Texas BS, Big X, SEC, PAC? They are a great commodity with an average athletic program that thinks their chit doesn't stink. I am sure that USC, Alabama, Michigan, Ohio State, Stanford, Texas A&M, etc, cannot wait to vote on their inclusion.

I think it is more likely that two PAC schools leave and join the Big 12. Perhaps the Zonas......when all is said and done. Thus infusing the Big 12 with new blood.

They are the 2nd most valuable brand behind Notre Dame. They can go to any conference.

Not the SEC without an attitude check. TAMU would veto them

I don't know if TAMU can really stop it though. If I'm correct the SEC has two voting stages to accept a member. The first stage is to open expansion for a certain team which they need only 3/4s of the conference to vote yes. After that gets passed they move on to a second vote that you cannot vote no on but you can chose not to vote.(Pretty much at that stage you can't stop them from being accepted though). Feel free to correct me any SEC fans out there because I'm not 100% on the whole expansion rules.

Now there are some schools that banned together and made a pact that in the event of expansion they wouldn't support a second school inside their state's borders. That could keep Texas out most likely but I don't know if that pact will exist anymore because some of those schools are not scared that they will vote in a GaTech, FSU, or Lousiville. I just don't think the Aggies have enough sway to convince everyone to block Texas and OU if it came down to that as a choice.

Baylor under federal Title IX investigation

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/higher_educ...bbb8b.html

(10-19-2016 05:28 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Baylor under federal Title IX investigation

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/higher_educ...bbb8b.html

No ones going anywhere they dont want to share money with schools that dont add significant value

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lol Rape U

what a bunch of losers in Waco

Deep Six that program already, sweet fancy moses

(10-18-2016 09:35 PM)CougarPoop Wrote:  Texas Tech, Iowa State, Kansas, Wake, Boston College, Vandy, Kentucky, Rutgers, ******, Cuse etc etc etc....

These teams have never accomplished jack**** on the field, never been relevant, and yet they make more than 10 times what we make.

And they just snicker about it.

I hope when the B12 explodes and some of these scrubs are looking for a lifeline that we tell them to go to hell. They can go to the sunbelt.

We don't want none of these clowns in the Sunbelt. You keep them, they are definitely AAC material.

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-...ever-coach

(10-20-2016 04:36 PM)southernwolf Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 09:35 PM)CougarPoop Wrote:  Texas Tech, Iowa State, Kansas, Wake, Boston College, Vandy, Kentucky, Rutgers, ******, Cuse etc etc etc....

These teams have never accomplished jack**** on the field, never been relevant, and yet they make more than 10 times what we make.

And they just snicker about it.

I hope when the B12 explodes and some of these scrubs are looking for a lifeline that we tell them to go to hell. They can go to the sunbelt.

We don't want none of these clowns in the Sunbelt. You keep them, they are definitely AAC material.

Lol. True. The funbelt is doing just fine, good regional conference playing good football. Frick those suck teams. Lol. They suck with piles of money, imagine how bad they would suck without it....not pointing my finger at uconn.

(10-19-2016 07:17 AM)tigerjeb Wrote:  whats to keep a mega like Alabama from looking around once these media contracts are up in 10 or so years and questioning why they are sending money to Starkville Mississippi that they could be keeping for themselves by producing their own games and media content. the tech will be up to snuff by then and as long as other like minded megas like Tennessee, Florida and Texas agree to home and homes, the average Bammer fan could care less if they are playing Middle Tennessee or Miss State that week.

the smaller fish will always need to school up with each other, but the really big fish wont need conference protection any more.

The big schools keep the small schools around for easy wins.

A conference of powerhouses reduces some powerhouses to average and others to the basement.

Any conference in this nation would take Texas in a heartbeat.

(10-18-2016 09:35 PM)CougarPoop Wrote:  Texas Tech, Iowa State, Kansas, Wake, Boston College, Vandy, Kentucky, Rutgers, ******, Cuse etc etc etc....

These teams have never accomplished jack**** on the field, never been relevant, and yet they make more than 10 times what we make.

And they just snicker about it.

I hope when the B12 explodes and some of these scrubs are looking for a lifeline that we tell them to go to hell. They can go to the sunbelt.

Several of those schools have history. Read up on College Football history before making such statements.

Besides, it is not all about success.

(10-28-2016 09:43 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Any conference in this nation would take Texas in a heartbeat.

At least one conference has already turned UT down due to the LHN (PAC) & so would the SEC & B1G (& probably the ACC too). UT without the LHN, sure any conference but with the LHN, none will. Like ND, UT could likely work a scheduling agreement with the ACC & keep their deal. Maybe that will be UT's next move.