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(10-14-2016 02:12 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(10-14-2016 09:12 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(10-14-2016 08:35 AM)Bogg Wrote:  
(10-14-2016 08:20 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(10-13-2016 08:40 PM)Bogg Wrote:  Makes sense, schools do prefer to play their peers.
Uconn should look forward to UMass Vermont, deleware, Maine and rhode island

Based on this round of expansion, UConn's closer to Kansas and West Virginia. Memphis and Arky State could probably develop a nice little rivalry though. Maybe ESPN would make Memphis a Group A program in the Sun Belt.
No longer a Tennessee fan bogg. Uconn now?

Wait Bogg is a Tennessee fan? Bogg, is this true?
Cheers!

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(10-14-2016 02:26 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  UConn always belonged with the old Big East football schools. I'm talking prior to even Cincy/Louisville/USF defecting from the old CUSA.

Now, with the AAC being the same thing as the old CUSA, UConn doesn't really belong there.
Agree. They should leave and let us pick up a football school
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SK,

You thinking:

Tulsa/Wichita St, Rice/SMU, Tulane/Memphis, USF/UCF, ECU/Marshall, Temple/Navy

11 bball/11 fball

??
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(10-14-2016 05:40 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(10-14-2016 02:26 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  UConn always belonged with the old Big East football schools. I'm talking prior to even Cincy/Louisville/USF defecting from the old CUSA.

Now, with the AAC being the same thing as the old CUSA, UConn doesn't really belong there.
Agree. They should leave and let us pick up a football school

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If the AAC can get back its Tier 3 rights, that would make it possible to lure in BYU. BYU can be given a similar deal to Navy, and conveniently, BYU's existing deal is with the four-letter network.

AAC West:

BYU
Tulsa
SMU
Houston (or Rice)
Tulane
Navy (football only)

AAC East:

Memphis
East Carolina
South Florida
Central Florida
Temple
Connecticut

A typical BYU conference schedule would yield 2 division games in the Central Time Zone, one game in the Southeast each year, and one game in the Northeast each year (presuming the road games at Temple and Connecticut are staggered with the games at Navy).

On the non-conference side, BYU can play Utah State and Utah to give themselves one in-State road game annually. The other two games can come from teams in the Mountain or Pacific Time Zones.


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What about an AAC made up of Army, Navy, UConn, SMU, Rice, Tulane, BYU, Air Force, Tulsa and USF?
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According to the Hartford Courant, UConn has been getting $10m a year from the AAC thanks to Big East legacy exit and tournament fees, but that drops dramatically next year. It will for USF and Cincy too:

"At more than $70 million, UConn has the biggest budget outside the Power Five. The life preserver that has helped keep it afloat has been the dissolution of the old Big East. The exit money paid by departing schools and the unit money distributed from the old Big East NCAA Tournament success helped get UConn a total payout of about $10 million last year from the AAC. That Big East money stream runs out at the end of the 2017-2018 fiscal year. With the AAC getting only a few million a year from ESPN in television revenue that $10 million figure is going to drop dramatically.

The panic becomes real in two years."

But ... that also means UConn could pay off the AAC's $10m exit fee by just not taking their payout next year.

http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-husk...olumn.html
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For all of this brave talk that UConn could join the BE & park the FB program in the AAC - there is NO AAC interest. For those who suggest UConn should go indy "like BYU" - it too won't work. UConn would have to schedule like BYU & that would last about 2 yrs. In those 2 yrs UConn would win 1-2 games per year. What network will pay for UConn to show they can't be competitive playing a BYU schedule?
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(10-16-2016 05:27 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  For all of this brave talk that UConn could join the BE & park the FB program in the AAC - there is NO AAC interest. For those who suggest UConn should go indy "like BYU" - it too won't work. UConn would have to schedule like BYU & that would last about 2 yrs. In those 2 yrs UConn would win 1-2 games per year. What network will pay for UConn to show they can't be competitive playing a BYU schedule?

...and you know this with absolute certainty how?
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(10-16-2016 06:35 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(10-16-2016 05:27 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  For all of this brave talk that UConn could join the BE & park the FB program in the AAC - there is NO AAC interest. For those who suggest UConn should go indy "like BYU" - it too won't work. UConn would have to schedule like BYU & that would last about 2 yrs. In those 2 yrs UConn would win 1-2 games per year. What network will pay for UConn to show they can't be competitive playing a BYU schedule?

...and you know this with absolute certainty how?

I've seen UConn play FB........& if UConn couldn't build a FB program being in the BCS era with BCS money, it's just who they are, a good BB school whose state provides a huge subsidy to provide the appearance of having a competitive FB program. And BTW, no one but UConn fans dreaming of BE BB believe it's a legitimate option. UConn's value is BB. Only a UConn homey would think otherwise.
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(10-14-2016 06:56 PM)Bogg Wrote:  
(10-14-2016 05:40 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(10-14-2016 02:26 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  UConn always belonged with the old Big East football schools. I'm talking prior to even Cincy/Louisville/USF defecting from the old CUSA.

Now, with the AAC being the same thing as the old CUSA, UConn doesn't really belong there.
Agree. They should leave and let us pick up a football school

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(10-16-2016 07:00 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(10-16-2016 06:35 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(10-16-2016 05:27 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  For all of this brave talk that UConn could join the BE & park the FB program in the AAC - there is NO AAC interest. For those who suggest UConn should go indy "like BYU" - it too won't work. UConn would have to schedule like BYU & that would last about 2 yrs. In those 2 yrs UConn would win 1-2 games per year. What network will pay for UConn to show they can't be competitive playing a BYU schedule?

...and you know this with absolute certainty how?

I've seen UConn play FB........& if UConn couldn't build a FB program being in the BCS era with BCS money

You haven't seen much.

First, the BCS money back then was $7m a year.

Second, UConn did just fine in the Big East. Coming out of nowhere in 2004, it held its own against teams currently in the P5 like Rutgers, Syracuse, Pitt and Louisville. Had good to decent (i.e. .500) records against all of them. They finished tied for 1st place twice, and put more players in the NFL than all other schools but Rutgers.
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UConn's football record against former Big East programs:

Boston College: 0-3
Cincinnati: 2-9
Louisville: 4-5
Pittsburgh: 5-4
Rutgers: 5-6
South Florida: 5-6
Syracuse: 6-3
West Virginia: 1-7
Total: 28-43
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(10-16-2016 07:00 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(10-16-2016 06:35 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(10-16-2016 05:27 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  For all of this brave talk that UConn could join the BE & park the FB program in the AAC - there is NO AAC interest. For those who suggest UConn should go indy "like BYU" - it too won't work. UConn would have to schedule like BYU & that would last about 2 yrs. In those 2 yrs UConn would win 1-2 games per year. What network will pay for UConn to show they can't be competitive playing a BYU schedule?

...and you know this with absolute certainty how?

I've seen UConn play FB........& if UConn couldn't build a FB program being in the BCS era with BCS money, it's just who they are, a good BB school whose state provides a huge subsidy to provide the appearance of having a competitive FB program. And BTW, no one but UConn fans dreaming of BE BB believe it's a legitimate option. UConn's value is BB. Only a UConn homey would think otherwise.

My point, which you very obviously missed, is that you know less than nothing about what the AAC will or won't do regarding UCONN football.
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(10-16-2016 08:48 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  UConn's football record against former Big East programs:

Boston College: 0-3
Cincinnati: 2-9
Louisville: 4-5
Pittsburgh: 5-4
Rutgers: 5-6
South Florida: 5-6
Syracuse: 6-3
West Virginia: 1-7
Total: 28-43

Your point other than to gleefully trash UCONN?
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(10-16-2016 09:02 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(10-16-2016 08:48 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  UConn's football record against former Big East programs:

Boston College: 0-3
Cincinnati: 2-9
Louisville: 4-5
Pittsburgh: 5-4
Rutgers: 5-6
South Florida: 5-6
Syracuse: 6-3
West Virginia: 1-7
Total: 28-43

Your point other than to gleefully trash UCONN?

No point. The topic of UConn holding their own against Big East competition came up. I was simply supplying the W/L. Take out WVU and Cincinnati, and UConn is close to .500 against the competition. Easy killer...
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(10-16-2016 08:48 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  UConn's football record against former Big East programs:

Boston College: 0-3
Cincinnati: 2-9
Louisville: 4-5
Pittsburgh: 5-4
Rutgers: 5-6
South Florida: 5-6
Syracuse: 6-3
West Virginia: 1-7
Total: 28-43

Something is very wrong in your numbers.

For one, UConn was never in the Big East with BC. I'msure some of those BC games were played when UConn was 1AA or transitioning with 50 scholarships.

But it is no secret that UConn did not play well against Cincy and West Virginia. Those were also the best 2 teams in the conference.

Regardless, in terms of talent, UConn had a lot of good players back then. There was also a decent amount of fan interest with 35k season ticket holders and frequent sellouts.

The combo of being in the AAC plus the horrid Paul Pasqualoni years has caused the program to go backwards.

But--that's the last 5 years. The previous poster referenced the Big East years.

And no matter the losing record overall, UConn fans were more than satisfied to see a former D1AA team jump into the BE, play in front of 35k-40k fans, win bowl games, beat P5 teams from other conferences, etc. The recent teams simply arent as good as those. Thee talent level is different too--they've gone from having several guys drafted to only a couple a year.
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(10-16-2016 09:33 PM)upstater1 Wrote:  
(10-16-2016 08:48 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  UConn's football record against former Big East programs:

Boston College: 0-3
Cincinnati: 2-9
Louisville: 4-5
Pittsburgh: 5-4
Rutgers: 5-6
South Florida: 5-6
Syracuse: 6-3
West Virginia: 1-7
Total: 28-43

Something is very wrong in your numbers.

For one, UConn was never in the Big East with BC. I'msure some of those BC games were played when UConn was 1AA or transitioning with 50 scholarships.

But it is no secret that UConn did not play well against Cincy and West Virginia. Those were also the best 2 teams in the conference.

Regardless, in terms of talent, UConn had a lot of good players back then. There was also a decent amount of fan interest with 35k season ticket holders and frequent sellouts.

The combo of being in the AAC plus the horrid Paul Pasqualoni years has caused the program to go backwards.

But--that's the last 5 years. The previous poster referenced the Big East years.

And no matter the losing record overall, UConn fans were more than satisfied to see a former D1AA team jump into the BE, play in front of 35k-40k fans, win bowl games, beat P5 teams from other conferences, etc. The recent teams simply arent as good as those. Thee talent level is different too--they've gone from having several guys drafted to only a couple a year.

Your comment re: BC is inaccurate. BC and Uconn were in the BE together for one year - 2004. BC won the only game they played against each other as conference mates, 27-7. That game against BC was Uconn's first game as a member of the BE Football Conference.

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(10-16-2016 08:59 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(10-16-2016 07:00 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(10-16-2016 06:35 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(10-16-2016 05:27 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  For all of this brave talk that UConn could join the BE & park the FB program in the AAC - there is NO AAC interest. For those who suggest UConn should go indy "like BYU" - it too won't work. UConn would have to schedule like BYU & that would last about 2 yrs. In those 2 yrs UConn would win 1-2 games per year. What network will pay for UConn to show they can't be competitive playing a BYU schedule?

...and you know this with absolute certainty how?

I've seen UConn play FB........& if UConn couldn't build a FB program being in the BCS era with BCS money, it's just who they are, a good BB school whose state provides a huge subsidy to provide the appearance of having a competitive FB program. And BTW, no one but UConn fans dreaming of BE BB believe it's a legitimate option. UConn's value is BB. Only a UConn homey would think otherwise.

My point, which you very obviously missed, is that you know less than nothing about what the AAC will or won't do regarding UCONN football.

We'll see..........
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(10-16-2016 07:00 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  I've seen UConn play FB........& if UConn couldn't build a FB program being in the BCS era with BCS money, it's just who they are, a good BB school whose state provides a huge subsidy to provide the appearance of having a competitive FB program.


UConn had a couple years as a fringe top-25 program while in the Big East, strung together multiple bowl appearances and won the league once, less than a decade into top-level football. Pasqualoni bottomed out the program. They're fine with a competent coach.


(10-16-2016 07:00 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  And BTW, no one but UConn fans dreaming of BE BB believe it's a legitimate option. UConn's value is BB. Only a UConn homey would think otherwise.

UConn's name recognition and market access make them more valuable than their potential replacements. Any argument about the American expelling UConn's football program necessitates an explanation of the national broadcast appeal of......Old Dominion? Western Kentucky?
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