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RE: Boise schedules a 1-0-1 with Florida St?! Wow! How?
The geographic center of FSU's alumni base and season ticket holder based are both located far southeast of Tallahassee. The geography of Florida combined with the FSU's status as a state university affect them. I suspect that as many as 30% of FSU's fans will travel no further to Jacksonville as they do to Tally.
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RE: Boise schedules a 1-0-1 with Florida St?! Wow! How?
(10-11-2016 10:50 AM)ken d Wrote:  Not all games played at a field other than your usual home field is a true "neutral site" game. I haven't seen anything yet that says the gate will be split with Boise, and if FSU can sell out the stadium in Jacksonville, they get both the additional exposure plus the cash. Why not do it?

Sure. Why not do it? Florida St should sign a series vs ECU. Game 1: Dowdy Ficklen. Game 2: In Tampa (almost a 2-0 for ECU with the pirate ship at RayJay)
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RE: Boise schedules a 1-0-1 with Florida St?! Wow! How?
(10-11-2016 11:38 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(10-11-2016 10:50 AM)ken d Wrote:  Not all games played at a field other than your usual home field is a true "neutral site" game. I haven't seen anything yet that says the gate will be split with Boise, and if FSU can sell out the stadium in Jacksonville, they get both the additional exposure plus the cash. Why not do it?

Sure. Why not do it? Florida St should sign a series vs ECU. Game 1: Dowdy Ficklen. Game 2: In Tampa (almost a 2-0 for ECU with the pirate ship at RayJay)
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Florida State has a long history of scheduling, and even traveling to, highly ranked opponents with a national reputation. I'm sure as soon as ECU achieves that lofty status the Seminoles will reach out to them as well.
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RE: Boise schedules a 1-0-1 with Florida St?! Wow! How?
This is not a whole lot different than Notre Dame's Shamrock series games, where the move a home game to a neutral site. Hell they moved one of their home games to Fenway Park, when they played Boston College, which in theory gave BC a 1-0-1 or even a 2-0-0 for that stretch (granted it was part of a bigger series of games).
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FSU needs some of that blue turf for their sod cemetery
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(10-10-2016 10:54 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(10-10-2016 10:50 PM)f1do Wrote:  
(10-10-2016 09:50 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Imagine that Florida St could actually gross more from EverBank Stadium than their home field. Boise St probably couldn't fill a pro stadium out west, so they have to do a home.

The closest pro football stadium to Boise is in Seattle--just over 500 miles away and almost an 8 hour drive.

People just don't understand how vast it is out here.

They don't. People out East don't realize that once you leave a metro area out West,it could take hours before you see another mid size to big metro area. Take for example Denver to Salt Lake, Boise to Seattle, Sacramento to Portland, El Paso to Tucson, Phoenix to San Diego, Las Vegas to Albuquerque. All you see is mountains and mountains and small towns with a few gas stations and hotels.
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RE: Boise schedules a 1-0-1 with Florida St?! Wow! How?
(10-10-2016 09:56 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(10-10-2016 09:50 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Imagine that Florida St could actually gross more from EverBank Stadium than their home field. Boise St probably couldn't fill a pro stadium out west, so they have to do a home.

"Boise probably can't fill a pro stadium out west" is your explanation for this? ECU probably couldn't fill a pro stadium out of North Carolina (and we are G5 kings of attendance) but FSU wouldn't do a 1-0-1 with us or frankly anyone else. This is weird. I wonder if they truely intend on playing in Boise? This isn't like them.
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Attendance doesn't equal ratings. Boise State is an ESPN darling, perhaps it's ESPN's favorite G5 school with the exception of BYU unless you consider them P5. Since Utah and TCU got promoted to P5 status, there's no other G5 school that has Boise's record. Houston might be next if they're able to keep Herman but that's a big IF considering all the high profile openings at the end of this season. Boise delivers ratings, an usually good team and most importantly, they have earned the respect from the likes of Florida State which is the reason why you're seeing this 1-0-1 deal. Also, winning three Fiesta Bowls in the last 10 years helps.
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I wonder who BSU Qb will be. Mark Rypien would have used his eligibility by then.
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(10-11-2016 06:58 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  I wonder who BSU Qb will be. Mark Rypien would have used his eligibility by then.

I'll say. Mark will be what, 60 then?


Brett Rypien will be gone as well.
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(10-11-2016 07:14 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(10-11-2016 06:58 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  I wonder who BSU Qb will be. Mark Rypien would have used his eligibility by then.

I'll say. Mark will be what, 60 then?


Brett Rypien will be gone as well.

Good Golly!!! I meant Brett.
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RE: Boise schedules a 1-0-1 with Florida St?! Wow! How?
Not sure I understand the 1-0-1 shorthand used here. There are only two games scheduled, right?
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(10-12-2016 08:29 AM)ken d Wrote:  Not sure I understand the 1-0-1 shorthand used here. There are only two games scheduled, right?

1 Home, 0 Road, 1 Neutral
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But I think as has been explained in the thread, it's really the same thing as a home game for FL St, and this just happened to be the perfect situation for the school to tip its cap to Jax-area FSU alumni, who I guess have pushed for a FSU game in Jax. I suppose to compete with the annual UGA-UFL game.
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(10-12-2016 10:48 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  But I think as has been explained in the thread, it's really the same thing as a home game for FL St, and this just happened to be the perfect situation for the school to tip its cap to Jax-area FSU alumni, who I guess have pushed for a FSU game in Jax. I suppose to compete with the annual UGA-UFL game.

Yup. It's only a true neutral site game if they are splitting the gate. I don't they are. I think they just moved a home game. Like when Cincinnati would play occasional games at Paul Brown (prior to renovations).
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This is similar to BYU's series with Missouri. The Missouri home game was played at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City. The BYU home game will be played at Lavell Edwards Stadium in Provo.

Florida St. has chosen to play its home game in Jacksonville. Just because the game is away from Doak Campbell doesn't make it a neutral-site game.
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(10-12-2016 11:32 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  
(10-12-2016 10:48 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  But I think as has been explained in the thread, it's really the same thing as a home game for FL St, and this just happened to be the perfect situation for the school to tip its cap to Jax-area FSU alumni, who I guess have pushed for a FSU game in Jax. I suppose to compete with the annual UGA-UFL game.

Yup. It's only a true neutral site game if they are splitting the gate. I don't they are. I think they just moved a home game. Like when Cincinnati would play occasional games at Paul Brown (prior to renovations).

Far as the NCAA is concerned, neutral site is any stadium you use for a home game and don't play at least half your games there. Houston playing OU in Reliant is neutral site for NCAA purposes.

Any other definition is just a personal preference.
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(10-12-2016 01:35 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(10-12-2016 11:32 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  
(10-12-2016 10:48 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  But I think as has been explained in the thread, it's really the same thing as a home game for FL St, and this just happened to be the perfect situation for the school to tip its cap to Jax-area FSU alumni, who I guess have pushed for a FSU game in Jax. I suppose to compete with the annual UGA-UFL game.

Yup. It's only a true neutral site game if they are splitting the gate. I don't they are. I think they just moved a home game. Like when Cincinnati would play occasional games at Paul Brown (prior to renovations).

Far as the NCAA is concerned, neutral site is any stadium you use for a home game and don't play at least half your games there. Houston playing OU in Reliant is neutral site for NCAA purposes.

Any other definition is just a personal preference.
Strange definition, given that you can only play more than half of your games in one stadium...

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(10-12-2016 01:35 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(10-12-2016 11:32 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  
(10-12-2016 10:48 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  But I think as has been explained in the thread, it's really the same thing as a home game for FL St, and this just happened to be the perfect situation for the school to tip its cap to Jax-area FSU alumni, who I guess have pushed for a FSU game in Jax. I suppose to compete with the annual UGA-UFL game.

Yup. It's only a true neutral site game if they are splitting the gate. I don't they are. I think they just moved a home game. Like when Cincinnati would play occasional games at Paul Brown (prior to renovations).

Far as the NCAA is concerned, neutral site is any stadium you use for a home game and don't play at least half your games there. Houston playing OU in Reliant is neutral site for NCAA purposes.

Any other definition is just a personal preference.

In the context of the how and why of a 1-0-1, as we are talking about contractual terms. In the contract, it would spell out of the site was truly neutral (gate is split between the teams, whether evenly or unevenly) or an off-site home game where no gate is shared, and the visiting team only gets X number of seats. The NCAA "definition" is irrelevant in this discussion.
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(10-12-2016 01:38 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(10-12-2016 01:35 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(10-12-2016 11:32 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  
(10-12-2016 10:48 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  But I think as has been explained in the thread, it's really the same thing as a home game for FL St, and this just happened to be the perfect situation for the school to tip its cap to Jax-area FSU alumni, who I guess have pushed for a FSU game in Jax. I suppose to compete with the annual UGA-UFL game.

Yup. It's only a true neutral site game if they are splitting the gate. I don't they are. I think they just moved a home game. Like when Cincinnati would play occasional games at Paul Brown (prior to renovations).

Far as the NCAA is concerned, neutral site is any stadium you use for a home game and don't play at least half your games there. Houston playing OU in Reliant is neutral site for NCAA purposes.

Any other definition is just a personal preference.
Strange definition, given that you can only play more than half of your games in one stadium...

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For a number of years Arkansas played 4 Little Rock 3 Fayetteville, under the new NCAA rules (slightly over a decade old), Little Rock would have been their home stadium for attendance purposes.
In years they split 3/3 both would have been home.
Under the current deal they usually play 6 Fayetteville and 1 Little Rock and Little Rock is a neutral site and can be used to count toward home scheduling and home attendance requirements.
If Arkansas played 4 in Fayetteville and 3 Little Rock next year, only one Little Rock game could be used to satisfy home attendance and home schedule requirements.
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As others have said, Jacksonville is a de facto home game for Florida State. They're trying to plant their flag across northern Florida, not giving Boise a neutral site fame. Texas (theoretically) playing Boston College in Dallas isn't a neutral site game either.
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