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(10-09-2016 06:15 PM)Tech Savy Wrote:  pesick never will learn his lesson. Another loss or two is coming for Houston thanks to his nonsense.

you're really into this karma thing

also stop trying to dictate how someone posts when you just started posting here (and i mean the AAC forum not the site)

pesik: been forever making long obnoxious posts

tech guy: *just started posting* you, long time poster, stop posting like that it, post how i like
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RE: Houston vs Navy gamethread
(10-09-2016 05:25 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(10-09-2016 05:11 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  
(10-09-2016 05:04 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(10-09-2016 04:53 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(10-09-2016 04:43 PM)pesik Wrote:  It's basketball, individual games have little meaning. We also never claimed to be better than cincy, nor did we brag about the game.. the only game houston fans talked about from last year was beating smu

And I don't feel like looking up which game you are talking about and I frankly don't remember if/when we beat cincy but rob gray (the leagues top scorer) and pollard (1st team all conference) were both injured for stretches last year and there's a chance we weren't at full strength either
What the he'll does that have to do with your former hiesman trophy candidate turning the ball over 3 times including a pick 6 and a fumble? Nothing.
Blocked extra point. Nothing.

You got beat. Quit whining.

And he had over 500yds and 4 td throwing around 70%, and scored on almost drive besides the turnover drives, besides the pick 6, the other 2 turnovers actually happened in navy territory

I don't expect perfect games from our offense, but our defense played horribly. And it had little to do with navy scoring but letting navy kill time.. Ward actually brought it within 7 to start he 4th.. navy got the. All and I essentially was praying they gave Ward the ball back with 8-9 minutes left in the quarter, navy had a 8 mjnutr drive and have us 4 minutes left(they didn't even score) but you have to give the offense time..beyond the first drive navy killed clock all game

Rt we get it your team sucks stop taking your frustrations out on other teams that are better than yours

I am not frustrated in the least. You are a whiny crybaby excuse maker.

again not an excuse, I'm saying we don't have depth, that's not an excuse that's stating an issue with the team

When ecu fans talk about things there teams need to improve on, you say nothing.. but when Houston, Memphis or USF lack in any thing you are sure to call them whineRS

From the outside looking in, you reek of someone jealous who is looking to take jabs at teams better than his to make himself feel better his teams suck

Last I checked our record is 4-1, far from sucking.
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Better get used to it...
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(10-09-2016 05:15 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(10-09-2016 05:13 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  
(10-09-2016 05:08 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(10-09-2016 05:01 PM)CincyBro Wrote:  Not having legitimate backups is the difference between contenders ( Alabama, Ohio St., etc.), who do and pretenders ( Houston ) who don't. This is by your own admission in this thread.

Pretenders is strong.. but to your point I agree..
Houston's been hyping catalon all preseason and he's played great, but he gets injured and with no true backup we are playing a walk on and Ward is the only one getting any rushing yards and constantly in3rd and long

Our emergency backup rb was a DB (who was also injured)
Ohio state lost an RB they are using a 5star his back up now

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If I ever whine about my team losing a game like this I hope I get banned.

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Better get used to it...

Doesn't matter if Herman leaves we're going to continue with what Houston is good at 10-2 or 11-1 records. Hehe
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(10-09-2016 05:19 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(10-09-2016 05:10 PM)wave97 Wrote:  
(10-09-2016 04:56 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(10-09-2016 04:49 PM)wave97 Wrote:  Questions for Houston fans: How much turnover did your team experience on the d-line from last year? What happened to that incredible LB from last year against Navy?

Last year we had 3 major impact lbs,
1 is in the NFL (actually just had a breakout game today)

1 was announced suspended minutes before the game (he was leading the nation in sacks/tfls till he missed this game)
https://youtu.be/_qQIbN3R0sI

The last got in a fight with a different player last week and broke a bone around his eyes (is expected back in a few weeks)
Your d-lineman did a ****** job freeing up your linebacker. Your LB was fending off Navy o-lineman diving at his feet from the start of the game. That cannot happen when you are putting a hat on every o-lineman with a nickle package on the back end.

I disagree our dline did a great job, our lb play was horrible. Watch the film they did a horrible job on assignment football, they were regular going after the same players, leaving 1 open .. or would wrap up.. the guy who replaced taylor actually kept trying to body tackle their qb, he'd just take the hit and gain 8more yards. It happened like 4 times in the game.. i kept screaming "wrap up" when I was watching

This game actually showed how good Oliver was (dline) he got most of the second chance tackles, after the LB would miss tackles at almost 300lbs would hawk down Rbs and Their fast qb..a dline getting tackles 10 yds off the line of scrimmage is scary
Watch last years game if you can. Navy o-line came nowhere near your LB. BTW you only had one LB, everyone else was either directly over an o-lineman or in the secondary. Ed Oliver is a specimen, but for him to chase a play down is counter productive against the wishbone. Air Force has relatively small d-lineman with a fraction of the talent that Houston has up front. Air Force completely shut down Navy's running game by playing technically sound up front. Air Force plays against the bone every day, they understand how important denying access to the LB is while you are stopping the dive at the same time. It is not an easy task!
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RE: Houston vs Navy gamethread
(10-09-2016 06:11 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(10-09-2016 05:50 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  C'mon guys, ease up on the Houston posters.
The depth thing is legit: Houston recruiting at an AAC level can't expect to hang with a power football factory like Navy. Navy just recruits at a different level.
Dont you think Navy would have lost if they had graduated the O-Line PLUS a legendary QB, and then lost the QB's presumptive heir in game one? Or if the defensive captain MLB had been lost for the season last week? Or if the #1 fullback and a #1 slotback and a starting corner had left during the game. If all that had happened to Navy, a plucky undermanned Houston squad would have been able to hang around.
No, the depth thing is legit.

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Why are you adding graduates losses into the equation??
If we lose games in 2017 we talk about the 2017 players sucking, not greg Ward or the 2016 players.. stating you lost players from 2015 has nothing to do with this as they never had any chance to play in this game

And navy is built on scheme not talent..

And why are you naming players lost late in the game and 1 of the players lost your coach said he could have been put back in if they felt he was needed in the post game

Your rebuttal was weak
Houston: houston best 3 defensive players from 2016 including the undisputed best defensive player in the AAC didn't play nor could our star RB

Navy:seniors from the 2015 team didn't play and some less significant players from our current team missed a few drives

And we had more in-game injuries than you,including our best cover corner with a chop block but like I said earlier I only stated players I thought would have altered the game.. and having him healthy the whole game wouldn't have likely made a difference .. ps rewatch the game the announcers noted im saying
I don't remember hearing a chop block penalty called (like I heard in Houston's game last week).

There was a LEGAL cut block? Huh. Everyone cuts in one scheme or another.

If your excuse is that your team is not as deep as lil ole Navy, maybe you shouldn't be bragging that your recruiting is more awesomer than everyone else's. Which do you want? Can't have both.

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(10-09-2016 08:29 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  I don't remember hearing a chop block penalty called (like I heard in Houston's game last week).

There was a LEGAL cut block? Huh. Everyone cuts in one scheme or another.

If your excuse is that your team is not as deep as lil ole Navy, maybe you shouldn't be bragging that your recruiting is more awesomer than everyone else's. Which do you want? Can't have both.

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your a scheme offense...stop acting like you don't understand how navy work ...stop acting like navys win or losses are decide by talent on your team

and you can't block by taking out peoples knees, navy kept doing that ALL game , and injured a cb in the process...i was curious how it wasn't called once
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(10-09-2016 05:04 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(10-09-2016 04:53 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(10-09-2016 04:43 PM)pesik Wrote:  
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(10-09-2016 04:24 PM)shere khan Wrote:  I don't remember one single post last year after we lost to navy about all the players we had out from getting beat up. Hell that a part of it. What a bunch of babies.

Yep, same UH crybabies who when they beat us in hoops last year without 3 starters would hear none of that excuse crap, but it's ok in football I guess.03-lmfao

It's basketball, individual games have little meaning. We also never claimed to be better than cincy, nor did we brag about the game.. the only game houston fans talked about from last year was beating smu

And I don't feel like looking up which game you are talking about and I frankly don't remember if/when we beat cincy but rob gray (the leagues top scorer) and pollard (1st team all conference) were both injured for stretches last year and there's a chance we weren't at full strength either
What the he'll does that have to do with your former hiesman trophy candidate turning the ball over 3 times including a pick 6 and a fumble? Nothing.
Blocked extra point. Nothing.

You got beat. Quit whining.

And he had over 500yds and 4 td throwing around 70%, and scored on almost drive besides the turnover drives, besides the pick 6, the other 2 turnovers actually happened in navy territory

I don't expect perfect games from our offense, but our defense played horribly. And it had little to do with navy scoring but letting navy kill time.. Ward actually brought it within 7 to start he 4th.. navy got the. All and I essentially was praying they gave Ward the ball back with 8-9 minutes left in the quarter, navy had a 8 mjnutr drive and have us 4 minutes left(they didn't even score) but you have to give the offense time..beyond the first drive navy killed clock all game

Rt we get it your team sucks stop taking your frustrations out on other teams that are better than yours
Is the bolded intended for rtaylor or there khan?
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(10-09-2016 08:45 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  
(10-09-2016 05:04 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(10-09-2016 04:53 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(10-09-2016 04:43 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(10-09-2016 04:38 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  Yep, same UH crybabies who when they beat us in hoops last year without 3 starters would hear none of that excuse crap, but it's ok in football I guess.03-lmfao

It's basketball, individual games have little meaning. We also never claimed to be better than cincy, nor did we brag about the game.. the only game houston fans talked about from last year was beating smu

And I don't feel like looking up which game you are talking about and I frankly don't remember if/when we beat cincy but rob gray (the leagues top scorer) and pollard (1st team all conference) were both injured for stretches last year and there's a chance we weren't at full strength either
What the he'll does that have to do with your former hiesman trophy candidate turning the ball over 3 times including a pick 6 and a fumble? Nothing.
Blocked extra point. Nothing.

You got beat. Quit whining.

And he had over 500yds and 4 td throwing around 70%, and scored on almost drive besides the turnover drives, besides the pick 6, the other 2 turnovers actually happened in navy territory

I don't expect perfect games from our offense, but our defense played horribly. And it had little to do with navy scoring but letting navy kill time.. Ward actually brought it within 7 to start he 4th.. navy got the. All and I essentially was praying they gave Ward the ball back with 8-9 minutes left in the quarter, navy had a 8 mjnutr drive and have us 4 minutes left(they didn't even score) but you have to give the offense time..beyond the first drive navy killed clock all game

Rt we get it your team sucks stop taking your frustrations out on other teams that are better than yours
Is the bolded intended for rtaylor or there khan?

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(10-09-2016 08:43 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(10-09-2016 08:29 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  I don't remember hearing a chop block penalty called (like I heard in Houston's game last week).

There was a LEGAL cut block? Huh. Everyone cuts in one scheme or another.

If your excuse is that your team is not as deep as lil ole Navy, maybe you shouldn't be bragging that your recruiting is more awesomer than everyone else's. Which do you want? Can't have both.

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your a scheme offense...stop acting like you don't understand how navy work ...stop acting like navys win or losses are decide by talent on your team

and you can't block by taking out peoples knees, navy kept doing that ALL game , and injured a cb in the process...i was curious how it wasn't called once

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(10-08-2016 08:42 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(10-08-2016 08:40 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(10-08-2016 08:23 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(10-08-2016 08:12 PM)Bogg Wrote:  
(10-08-2016 07:30 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  My question is, is what is the point of a contract if a coach can leave for another school without losing anything? Coaches should not be allowed to even talk to other schools until a contract is complete.

A contract can say anything the two parties agree to, it's just really hard to get promising up-and-comers to sign a strict non-compete. If Houston really wants someone willing to sign away the right to leave, you're probably looking at a much worse pool of applicants.

The ncaa needs to just make it a rule your not allowed to leave while under contract.
Dude. You can write a contract that prevents negotiations before the end of season with a financial penalty. Labor laws and things like the constitution cover the rest. Even covenant not to compete clauses are hard to enforce. There are only about 5 schools that are immune to having a coach taken. We've been telling you all year. Herman doesn't love Houston anymore than you would love him if he went 1-12 next year.

Exactly why there needs to be a penalty for coaches leaving early. Im tired of coaches being able to give a school the finger and leave with no repercussions.

That's why most (not all) contracts have buyout clauses...i.e. Memphis had a $500,000 buyout if Fuentes left (and he did).

Most agents want as low buyout as possible (i.e. don't want to scare away any potential offer to a much higher paying job), but even large buyouts don't stop coaches from "moving up the ladder", as former Colorado State McElwain had a $7 Million buyout at CSU...but here is how that is being covered/negotiated:

To address McElwain’s $7 million buyout clause with Colorado State University, the University of Athletic Association at UF announced it will pay CSU $3 million over a period of six years and McElwain will personally pay the school $2 million over a period time. The Gators also agreed to play Colorado State in the Swamp in 2018, with UF paying the Rams $2 million for the game.
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(10-09-2016 06:15 PM)Tech Savy Wrote:  pesick never will learn his lesson. Another loss or two is coming for Houston thanks to his nonsense.

LOL....last time I looked Pesik is no where on UH FB roster.
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(10-10-2016 10:05 AM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  
(10-09-2016 06:15 PM)Tech Savy Wrote:  pesick never will learn his lesson. Another loss or two is coming for Houston thanks to his nonsense.

LOL....last time I looked Pesik is no where on UH FB roster.
He must be injured. Lol
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(10-10-2016 11:58 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(10-10-2016 10:05 AM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  
(10-09-2016 06:15 PM)Tech Savy Wrote:  pesick never will learn his lesson. Another loss or two is coming for Houston thanks to his nonsense.

LOL....last time I looked Pesik is no where on UH FB roster.
He must be injured. Lol

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(10-10-2016 07:15 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  Most agents want as low buyout as possible (i.e. don't want to scare away any potential offer to a much higher paying job), but even large buyouts don't stop coaches from "moving up the ladder", as former Colorado State McElwain had a $7 Million buyout at CSU...but here is how that is being covered/negotiated:

To address McElwain’s $7 million buyout clause with Colorado State University, the University of Athletic Association at UF announced it will pay CSU $3 million over a period of six years and McElwain will personally pay the school $2 million over a period time. The Gators also agreed to play Colorado State in the Swamp in 2018, with UF paying the Rams $2 million for the game.
Believe me, that buyout doesn't pause the big boys. LSU will cut cooger hi one check for 2.5 mil and that's it. Hell, they could make it 12.5 million and LSU will cut one check for 10 mil and pay for cooger hi to play in NRG stadium for LSU recruits.
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(10-10-2016 03:54 PM)mdastro Wrote:  
(10-10-2016 07:15 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  Most agents want as low buyout as possible (i.e. don't want to scare away any potential offer to a much higher paying job), but even large buyouts don't stop coaches from "moving up the ladder", as former Colorado State McElwain had a $7 Million buyout at CSU...but here is how that is being covered/negotiated:

To address McElwain’s $7 million buyout clause with Colorado State University, the University of Athletic Association at UF announced it will pay CSU $3 million over a period of six years and McElwain will personally pay the school $2 million over a period time. The Gators also agreed to play Colorado State in the Swamp in 2018, with UF paying the Rams $2 million for the game.
Believe me, that buyout doesn't pause the big boys. LSU will cut cooger hi one check for 2.5 mil and that's it. Hell, they could make it 12.5 million and LSU will cut one check for 10 mil and pay for cooger hi to play in NRG stadium for LSU recruits.

You still here, you?!? You taking valuable space here, go on get lost, you.
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