RE: Let's get a concise list of Trump voters going...
(10-12-2016 05:06 PM)Moomba Wrote: It's ironic. I thought Bernie the independent running as a Dem was rich, but nobody caught onto that or said a word.
Bernie should have told the democratic leadership to go "F themselves" too.
RE: Let's get a concise list of Trump voters going...
(10-12-2016 05:23 PM)ESSSS Wrote:
(10-12-2016 05:06 PM)Moomba Wrote: It's ironic. I thought Bernie the independent running as a Dem was rich, but nobody caught onto that or said a word.
Bernie should have told the democratic leadership to go "F themselves" too.
I think they would have welcomed him saying that, and leaving. He really wasn't part of their gig.
RE: Let's get a concise list of Trump voters going...
(10-12-2016 05:45 PM)ESSSS Wrote:
(10-12-2016 05:40 PM)Moomba Wrote: I think they would have welcomed him saying that, and leaving. He really wasn't part of their gig.
That became quite clear, didn't it?
They could have shown him the door at any time.
Instead they chose to perpetuate a charade.
Gutless and spineless....IMHO
And unfair to supporters of BS.
No they couldn't have shown him the door, he and his peeps much like Trumps knew and exploited their bylaws which allow outsiders to run. Quite effectively.
I don't loose much sleep over Bernies "treatment". Play and you pay.
RE: Let's get a concise list of Trump voters going...
(10-12-2016 10:42 PM)Moomba Wrote: No they couldn't have shown him the door, he and his peeps much like Trumps knew and exploited their bylaws which allow outsiders to run. Quite effectively.
Maybe so.
I have NO IDEA what the bylaws of the DNC say.
But if they exist, and they prohibited the DNC from denying or rejecting BS's candidacy, then the DNC elites and HRC violated their own bylaws while perpetuating the charade they called the Democratic primary.
BTW...."exploited their bylaws" is another way of saying that BS and DT simply complied with the rules of these two political parties.
Quote:I don't loose much sleep over Bernies "treatment".
Nor do I.
Though I do care (marginally) that the ruling class has no problem showing it's disdain for millions of their own who spent time, and $$$, and emotional energy supporting BS.
The fools had no idea that the fix was in.
(This post was last modified: 10-13-2016 04:58 AM by ESSSS.)
RE: Let's get a concise list of Trump voters going...
(10-13-2016 04:58 AM)ESSSS Wrote:
(10-12-2016 10:42 PM)Moomba Wrote: No they couldn't have shown him the door, he and his peeps much like Trumps knew and exploited their bylaws which allow outsiders to run. Quite effectively.
Maybe so.
I have NO IDEA what the bylaws of the DNC say.
But if they exist, and they prohibited the DNC from denying or rejecting BS's candidacy, then the DNC elites and HRC violated their own bylaws while perpetuating the charade they called the Democratic primary.
BTW...."exploited their bylaws" is another way of saying that BS and DT simply complied with the rules of these two political parties.
Quote:I don't loose much sleep over Bernies "treatment".
Nor do I.
Though I do care (marginally) that the ruling class has no problem showing it's disdain for millions of their own who spent time, and $$$, and emotional energy supporting BS.
The fools had no idea that the fix was in.
I actually liked that. It was a direct slap in their face. If people don't realize that it's a fixed up mess and caters to the insider machine now? They never will.
The GOP had that kind of control up until recently as well, they got fragmented from within by the Koch brothers "Tea Party" movement, this cycle they were in such disarray that DT drove a truck through that hole.
I keep thinking something has to give, but I guess the situation hasn't hit critical mass yet. I predict that we'll hear the complaints about "them" and how "they" chose two lousy candidates, and then business as usual.
BTW, most "loopholes" have unintended consequences, they're going to tighten those up going forward I'm betting.
(This post was last modified: 10-13-2016 02:33 PM by Moomba.)
RE: Let's get a concise list of Trump voters going...
The situation feels a little unstable to me. 35% seem angry, fed up, and armed to the teeth. 20% in that millennial class, also fed up with the system, 25% that are in the system but understand something isn't quite right, 5% locked up or on parole, the balance actively working in the system and embedded in it.
Now how does that led to a situation where people can feel proud to be an American? We are a country divided. We are in some kind of long slow slid destination unknown. Globalism, I guess. And there are some very scary parts of the globe right now.
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Yeah, just why did we strive to become global like exactly?
Oh wait, WE didn't make that choice, huh?
I was upset fifteen years ago when there was a concerted effort to go overseas, train people for free, and use them to compete with us in my professional space. Other people didn't think it was so bad. Then globalism started affecting them directly or indirectly. NOW there's uproar!?!
Pensions insolvent, local governments failing, jobs disappearing daily. The very people that supported these policies are being hurt. Well played elites. Now remember that when you ask that class to fight a war for "American Interests" after you have been playing screw your neighbor with that same class at every turn.
(This post was last modified: 10-16-2016 06:21 PM by Moomba.)
RE: Let's get a concise list of Trump voters going...
Rigged election in all forms of media including new media (YouTube, twitter, Facebook, Reddit, etc.). Sickening. Friends are blindly voting for Hillary without seeing those things.
RE: Let's get a concise list of Trump voters going...
(10-18-2016 11:18 AM)Nacho Wrote: Rigged election in all forms of media including new media (YouTube, twitter, Facebook, Reddit, etc.). Sickening. Friends are blindly voting for Hillary without seeing those things.
When the GOP nominates an absolute moron, that leads to this kind of situation. Hillary is creepy and sleazy, but folks are willing to stay with the proverbial "Devil they know."
Had the GOP nominated just about any of their other candidates (other than possibly Cruz), this election would be a landslide the other direction. Hillary would struggle keeping her own extremist party together.
The only reason anyone with a brain or heart is voting for Hillary Clinton is to keep a crazy man out of the White House. Problem is, Hillary is just as bad, if not worse, ethically.
Regardless, America is about to elect a 1-term president who will probably have a primary in four years.
RE: Let's get a concise list of Trump voters going...
(10-18-2016 11:18 AM)Nacho Wrote: Rigged election in all forms of media including new media (YouTube, twitter, Facebook, Reddit, etc.). Sickening. Friends are blindly voting for Hillary without seeing those things.
RE: Let's get a concise list of Trump voters going...
Trump voters ignore facts and engage in absurd conspiracy theories that would make comic writers blush they're carnies following the supreme self glorified carnival barker the man is outright crazy its crazy that half his misguided cult want to coddle Putin and Russia who invaded Ukraine shot down a civilian airliner hacked the DNC and who knows what else and supports a war criminal in syria
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Cruz is a gutless two face weasel that wont stand up for his own father or wife Carson life story is a fraud Christie committed misconduct in office and we could go on the official party symbol for the GOP should be a piece of white bread
RE: Let's get a concise list of Trump voters going...
(10-19-2016 11:51 AM)emu79 Wrote: Trump voters ignore facts and engage in absurd conspiracy theories that would make comic writers blush they're carnies following the supreme self glorified carnival barker the man is outright crazy its crazy that half his misguided cult want to coddle Putin and Russia who invaded Ukraine shot down a civilian airliner hacked the DNC and who knows what else and supports a war criminal in syria
And Clinton voters are no better.
Anyone who enthusiastically supports either has no moral foundation.
Two vile human beings supported by equally foul lemmings.