(10-07-2016 09:33 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  You're just grasping.

(10-08-2016 02:27 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  it didn't seem to me like the type of activity and stamina required in basketball actually plays into the strength of running a well paced mile

It's not grasping. It's called quoting.

A website that attests to a 2.55 mile average in the pros used to attempt to invalidate a 3 mile average in bush league "saying" when the above quote of yours was the central issue all along? I guess you win again, Saluki -- using your logic.

(10-08-2016 02:38 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  

(10-07-2016 04:38 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(10-07-2016 04:33 PM)99Tiger Wrote:  I don't see any reason to doubt it. I could beat 6:00 miles in high school and I was certainly never a college athlete or had the potential to be.

I hear you, but I can't see EVERYONE breaking 6.

Rychoek? Dedric?

This was the OU team results from 2009:

Cade Davis: 5:29
Ryan Randolph: 5:33
T.J. Franklin: 5:45
Tony Crocker: 5:49
Beau Gerber: 5:53
Ray Willis: 5:53
Willie Warren: 6:20
Barry Honoré: 6:21
Steven Pledger: 6:22
Tommy Mason-Griffin: 6:25
Ryan Wright: 6:25
Andrew Fitzgerald: 6:26
Tiny Gallon: 6:56
Kyle Hardrick: 7:10
Orlando Allen: 7:34


UNC only had one guy break 5:30 a couple years ago. He's saying ALL our guards broke 5:30.

Not a big deal, just thought it was odd to pronounce that feat.

I guess it would be SUPER impressive if true, just based on a quick look at UNC and OU's results.

There isn't a lot of beef on the team so I can believe it. I was a 6'4" slow white center in high school, preseason we had to run around a block a few times a week that was 2 1/4 miles(Macon, Graham, Bayliss, Wells Station). If we didn't make it under 15, we had to run the block across the street and that was an extra mile. I'm sure if I could do it, a high D1 athlete like Dedric who is 100 times more athletic than I could ever dream of being wouldn't have any problems.

Those street names bring back memories. I lived on VIVIA AVE.

(10-08-2016 02:38 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  

(10-07-2016 04:38 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(10-07-2016 04:33 PM)99Tiger Wrote:  I don't see any reason to doubt it. I could beat 6:00 miles in high school and I was certainly never a college athlete or had the potential to be.

I hear you, but I can't see EVERYONE breaking 6.

Rychoek? Dedric?

This was the OU team results from 2009:

Cade Davis: 5:29
Ryan Randolph: 5:33
T.J. Franklin: 5:45
Tony Crocker: 5:49
Beau Gerber: 5:53
Ray Willis: 5:53
Willie Warren: 6:20
Barry Honoré: 6:21
Steven Pledger: 6:22
Tommy Mason-Griffin: 6:25
Ryan Wright: 6:25
Andrew Fitzgerald: 6:26
Tiny Gallon: 6:56
Kyle Hardrick: 7:10
Orlando Allen: 7:34


UNC only had one guy break 5:30 a couple years ago. He's saying ALL our guards broke 5:30.

Not a big deal, just thought it was odd to pronounce that feat.

I guess it would be SUPER impressive if true, just based on a quick look at UNC and OU's results.

There isn't a lot of beef on the team so I can believe it. I was a 6'4" slow white center in high school, preseason we had to run around a block a few times a week that was 2 1/4 miles(Macon, Graham, Bayliss, Wells Station). If we didn't make it under 15, we had to run the block across the street and that was an extra mile. I'm sure if I could do it, a high D1 athlete like Dedric who is 100 times more athletic than I could ever dream of being wouldn't have any problems.

Those street names bring back memories. I lived on Vivia ave. between Townes and Baylis

(10-08-2016 01:56 PM)Dylan Wrote:  

(10-07-2016 04:38 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(10-07-2016 04:33 PM)99Tiger Wrote:  I don't see any reason to doubt it. I could beat 6:00 miles in high school and I was certainly never a college athlete or had the potential to be.

I hear you, but I can't see EVERYONE breaking 6.

Rychoek? Dedric?

This was the OU team results from 2009:

Cade Davis: 5:29
Ryan Randolph: 5:33
T.J. Franklin: 5:45
Tony Crocker: 5:49
Beau Gerber: 5:53
Ray Willis: 5:53
Willie Warren: 6:20
Barry Honoré: 6:21
Steven Pledger: 6:22
Tommy Mason-Griffin: 6:25
Ryan Wright: 6:25
Andrew Fitzgerald: 6:26
Tiny Gallon: 6:56
Kyle Hardrick: 7:10
Orlando Allen: 7:34


UNC only had one guy break 5:30 a couple years ago. He's saying ALL our guards broke 5:30.

Not a big deal, just thought it was odd to pronounce that feat.

I guess it would be SUPER impressive if true, just based on a quick look at UNC and OU's results.

When I played baseball at Memphis you couldn't start practice until you completed a mile in under 6:30...most of us did it fairly easily on the first day.

I gotta call b.s. on that for the mere fact it makes no sense. Why would a baseball coach ever need a player to run a 6:30 mile? You telling me catchers are busting out 6:30's? First basemen need to run (assuming the get on base a couple times) about 0.25 miles a game. Yet they are going to run a mile in that time?

This is a sample workout for baseball, which logically uses short-burst exercises, not gauging someone on a mile.

(10-08-2016 02:54 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(10-07-2016 09:33 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  You're just grasping.

(10-08-2016 02:27 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  it didn't seem to me like the type of activity and stamina required in basketball actually plays into the strength of running a well paced mile

It's not grasping. It's called quoting.

A website that attests to a 2.55 mile average in the pros used to attempt to invalidate a 3 mile average in bush league "saying" when the above quote of yours was the central issue all along? I guess you win again, Saluki -- using your logic.

I used verifiable numbers from NBA players.

I am more intrigued if you are referencing high school or college for your glory days. The fact there was no 3-pointer also likely means there wasn't a shot clock.

You are also quoting both teams averaging 80 points per game, which for college basketball puts you in the top 3%-5% of schools and if high school is Loyola Marymount level.

And you are, with that odd math, basing it on playing a full 40 or 36 in high school? No subbing? No walking after a foul? No laying back on a fast break?

Just look at the link with REAL, VERIFIED metrics. The NBA player with the MOST miles, and coincidentally the league leader in minutes per game.

Buy hey, harken back to the glory days and tell me about running 5 miles a game and averaging 80 ppt on 50% shooting.

Right on!

(10-08-2016 01:16 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(10-07-2016 09:33 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  People can speculate and hypothesize but I actually listed OU's times and referenced UNC's annual mile in which showed that it was a rare feat to break 5:30.

Again, it doesn't really matter a whole bunch, the comment struck me odd that it would have been that detailed about meeting times. I would have thought, "the kids did their timed mile and the staff who coordinated it was pleased with the progress and final results."

In order to run a sub 6 mile, most folks have to run a more than a few miles a week to achieve that goal, and it didn't seem to me like the type of activity and stamina required in basketball actually plays into the strength of running a well paced mile.

You should take up golf

Don't even need a beer belt

True, the belt would totally jack up my swing. That's why you get the Rodney Dangerfield bag from Caddyshack.

(10-08-2016 01:51 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(10-08-2016 12:47 PM)Cotten Wrote:  

(10-07-2016 04:21 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  http://www.commercialappeal.com/videos/s.../91629472/

At the 1:15 mark.

Says all players ran a timed mile in under 6 mins and all guards beat 5:30.

Truth meter says:

I have friends in their late 40's who can do 5-10 miles averaging 6 minutes per.

Probably not. But if they are knocking out 10 miles in an hour, that gets them close to the fastest time in Tennessee for that age.

http://www.staterunningrecords.com/asp/r...e&sex=MALE
And they are actually close to that thay are probably also running 50+ miles a week in order to do that.

One of them was the state champion cyclist in the masters division a couple of years back and the other has done multiple iron mans. Not everyone is a slug.

beer belt. hmmm....
That would be a belt that holds beer ....? Instead of money?

That would need to be alcohol leak proof.
Are these things custom made?

(10-08-2016 03:57 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  I used verifiable numbers from NBA players.

I am more intrigued if you are referencing high school or college for your glory days. The fact there was no 3-pointer also likely means there wasn't a shot clock.

You are also quoting both teams averaging 80 points per game, which for college basketball puts you in the top 3%-5% of schools and if high school is Loyola Marymount level.

And you are, with that odd math, basing it on playing a full 40 or 36 in high school? No subbing? No walking after a foul? No laying back on a fast break?

Just look at the link with REAL, VERIFIED metrics. The NBA player with the MOST miles, and coincidentally the league leader in minutes per game.

Buy hey, harken back to the glory days and tell me about running 5 miles a game and averaging 80 ppt on 50% shooting.

Right on!

Keep on digging. You said you don't know how running a timed mile has anything to do with basketball conditioning. Your ignorance is showing no matter how you try to obfuscate the point.

(10-08-2016 04:15 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(10-08-2016 03:57 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  I used verifiable numbers from NBA players.

I am more intrigued if you are referencing high school or college for your glory days. The fact there was no 3-pointer also likely means there wasn't a shot clock.

You are also quoting both teams averaging 80 points per game, which for college basketball puts you in the top 3%-5% of schools and if high school is Loyola Marymount level.

And you are, with that odd math, basing it on playing a full 40 or 36 in high school? No subbing? No walking after a foul? No laying back on a fast break?

Just look at the link with REAL, VERIFIED metrics. The NBA player with the MOST miles, and coincidentally the league leader in minutes per game.

Buy hey, harken back to the glory days and tell me about running 5 miles a game and averaging 80 ppt on 50% shooting.

Right on!

Keep on digging. You said you don't know how running a timed mile has anything to do with basketball conditioning. Your ignorance is showing no matter how you try to obfuscate the point.

Give me a second. I have to look obfuscate up.

(10-08-2016 05:34 PM)BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:  

(10-08-2016 04:15 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(10-08-2016 03:57 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  I used verifiable numbers from NBA players.

I am more intrigued if you are referencing high school or college for your glory days. The fact there was no 3-pointer also likely means there wasn't a shot clock.

You are also quoting both teams averaging 80 points per game, which for college basketball puts you in the top 3%-5% of schools and if high school is Loyola Marymount level.

And you are, with that odd math, basing it on playing a full 40 or 36 in high school? No subbing? No walking after a foul? No laying back on a fast break?

Just look at the link with REAL, VERIFIED metrics. The NBA player with the MOST miles, and coincidentally the league leader in minutes per game.

Buy hey, harken back to the glory days and tell me about running 5 miles a game and averaging 80 ppt on 50% shooting.

Right on!

Keep on digging. You said you don't know how running a timed mile has anything to do with basketball conditioning. Your ignorance is showing no matter how you try to obfuscate the point.

Gone me a second. I have to look obfuscate up.

snicker...?

(10-08-2016 07:25 AM)TIGERBUDDY Wrote:  

(10-08-2016 05:42 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(10-08-2016 05:13 AM)TIGERBUDDY Wrote:  

(10-07-2016 04:57 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Just run the 100 yard dash and 'round up' your time. There's 1760 of em in a mile, em being yards.

You do know that is not correct. Stamina comes into play and if you do not run at a pace then you will not finish your mile

Surely you are kidding

If you run a 100 yard dash in 10 seconds flat do you think that you could continue that time for a mile? Don't think so !!

Dude he was kidding

I believe Coach Smith and Coach Esposito

(10-08-2016 04:06 PM)Cotten Wrote:  

(10-08-2016 01:51 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(10-08-2016 12:47 PM)Cotten Wrote:  

(10-07-2016 04:21 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  http://www.commercialappeal.com/videos/s.../91629472/

At the 1:15 mark.

Says all players ran a timed mile in under 6 mins and all guards beat 5:30.

Truth meter says:

I have friends in their late 40's who can do 5-10 miles averaging 6 minutes per.

Probably not. But if they are knocking out 10 miles in an hour, that gets them close to the fastest time in Tennessee for that age.

http://www.staterunningrecords.com/asp/r...e&sex=MALE
And they are actually close to that thay are probably also running 50+ miles a week in order to do that.

One of them was the state champion cyclist in the masters division a couple of years back and the other has done multiple iron mans. Not everyone is a slug.

Cycling aint running. More importantly, as I noted earlier, those dudes are busting crazy hours a week on endurance.

What do you have against cycling?

(10-08-2016 04:15 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(10-08-2016 03:57 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  I used verifiable numbers from NBA players.

I am more intrigued if you are referencing high school or college for your glory days. The fact there was no 3-pointer also likely means there wasn't a shot clock.

You are also quoting both teams averaging 80 points per game, which for college basketball puts you in the top 3%-5% of schools and if high school is Loyola Marymount level.

And you are, with that odd math, basing it on playing a full 40 or 36 in high school? No subbing? No walking after a foul? No laying back on a fast break?

Just look at the link with REAL, VERIFIED metrics. The NBA player with the MOST miles, and coincidentally the league leader in minutes per game.

Buy hey, harken back to the glory days and tell me about running 5 miles a game and averaging 80 ppt on 50% shooting.

Right on!

Keep on digging. You said you don't know how running a timed mile has anything to do with basketball conditioning. Your ignorance is showing no matter how you try to obfuscate the point.

That response has absolutely nothing to do with my pointed reply to the referenced post.

Seems you are the one obfuscating.

(10-08-2016 08:17 PM)TakeawayTiger Wrote:  What do you have against cycling?

Nada.

Poster was saying he knew dudes in late 40's busting out 6 min miles for 5-10 miles.

I just note that for 10 miles that would literally mean he's hanging with perhaps the fastest guys in TN at that distance.

Then he said one was a cyclist. That's cool but a dude who is a dedicated cyclist is not just running a pace that would be putting him in the running for regional awards.

Just like a dude who was an accomplished marathoner wouldn't just be able to roll out some state record in cycling.

ing really makes that word.

#obfuscating

The fact that Tubby said, "Pretty much" made the time is telling.

I also think that a lot of people have fond memories of their athletic exploits as youngsters that get embellished over time.

(10-08-2016 09:15 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  The fact that Tubby said, "Pretty much" made the time is telling.

I also think that a lot of people have fond memories of their athletic exploits as youngsters that get embellished over time.

This.