(10-07-2016 12:15 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  How did the "modern era" seemingly start in 1996?

Starting to think that was when Vegas was born

It appears arbitrary and piecemeal timeframes were used, dependent on whatever timeframe was most favorable to Clemson in that series.

I think nearly everyone on this board is aware of the high level of success for Clemson during this run. I suppose I miss the point of this thread with that in mind.

(10-07-2016 03:02 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  It appears arbitrary and piecemeal timeframes were used, dependent on whatever timeframe was most favorable to Clemson in that series.

I think nearly everyone on this board is aware of the high level of success for Clemson during this run. I suppose I miss the point of this thread with that in mind.

So does everyone else

(10-07-2016 02:36 PM)ClemVegas Wrote:  

(10-07-2016 09:55 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  1-1 against Kentucky, hahahahaha
Florida is 3 decades & 0 against them!

Louisville is 14-8 v UK since they resumed playing in 1994.

Kentucky played Clemson one of the down seasons around when Bowden was fired. If Clemson played Kentucky every year, it is going to be 8 or 9 wins out of 10 games.

And if you take away the Kragthorp years Louisville is 11-2 v UK since 2000. What does any of this mean? Clemson has been stellar recently no doubt.

(10-07-2016 03:05 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(10-07-2016 03:02 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  It appears arbitrary and piecemeal timeframes were used, dependent on whatever timeframe was most favorable to Clemson in that series.

I think nearly everyone on this board is aware of the high level of success for Clemson during this run. I suppose I miss the point of this thread with that in mind.

So does everyone else

Well said

I would assert there are 8 distinctive periods for the ACC:

1. Pre Southern Conference 1886-1921 (The major schools are playing football in the SAIAA, SIAA, etc. - Stone Age)
2. Original Southern Conference 1921-1933 (23 schools - Bronze Age)
3. Post SEC Southern Conference 1933-1953 (13 SEC school pull out and ACC adds 7 to go to 17 - Iron Age - Hmm, fits Iron Dukes)
4. Pre 800 SAT ACC 1953-1963 (Before Football De-Emphasis At Duke - Gilded Age - Or The Orange Bowl Age)
5. Post 800 SAT ACC 1964-1977 (The Dark Age)
6. Last 8 Member ACC Period 1978-1991 (The Renaissance - Led By Clemson and MD)
7. FSU Period 1991-2003 (The Little 8 Age Dominated By FSU)
8. Expansion Period 2003-2013 (The TV Age)
9. Post Expansion Period 2013 Forward (Now - Atlantic Division Age?)

there are some uptight people on this forum.

Kap keeps running his mouth about me but he's the guy who called triple offense a 'gimmick' offense. any true football fan would call him a moron.

you can't deny that Clemson has impressive records against the teams over the years that I looked it. It wa a lot more impressive than I realized, like 11-1 against NC State last 12 years. seems like the NC State game is a dog fight every year so i thought they had a lot more wins.

(10-07-2016 03:05 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(10-07-2016 03:02 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  It appears arbitrary and piecemeal timeframes were used, dependent on whatever timeframe was most favorable to Clemson in that series.

I think nearly everyone on this board is aware of the high level of success for Clemson during this run. I suppose I miss the point of this thread with that in mind.

So does everyone else

you forgot your exclaimation marks, sidewalk Clemson fan!!!!! i guess i'm missing the point of why you are bitching about it!!!!!! Why are you so bitter!!!!!!!

UNC's record vs. Clemson 1969-1972: 4-0. Booya

(10-07-2016 06:17 PM)esayem Wrote:  UNC's record vs. Clemson 1969-1972: 4-0. Booya

not the modern era though. Clemson only became a university in 1975. Only became a co-ed college in 1965. It probably wasn't even 10,000 students then. College of Charleston is about 10,000, to give some perspective.

(10-07-2016 03:23 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(10-07-2016 02:36 PM)ClemVegas Wrote:  

(10-07-2016 09:55 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  1-1 against Kentucky, hahahahaha
Florida is 3 decades & 0 against them!

Louisville is 14-8 v UK since they resumed playing in 1994.

Kentucky played Clemson one of the down seasons around when Bowden was fired. If Clemson played Kentucky every year, it is going to be 8 or 9 wins out of 10 games.

And if you take away the Kragthorp years Louisville is 11-2 v UK since 2000. What does any of this mean? Clemson has been stellar recently no doubt.

it means Clemson has been pretty good in recent years. what's it to you? you still sour grapes over the loss to Clemson , I guess. maybe Lville will finally beat Clemson next year.

I was at the Fla state v Clemson puntarooskie game. Seemed as modern as anything played today.

(10-07-2016 06:07 PM)ClemVegas Wrote:  there are some uptight people on this forum.

Kap keeps running his mouth about me but he's the guy who called triple offense a 'gimmick' offense. any true football fan would call him a moron.

you can't deny that Clemson has impressive records against the teams over the years that I looked it. It wa a lot more impressive than I realized, like 11-1 against NC State last 12 years. seems like the NC State game is a dog fight every year so i thought they had a lot more wins.

In today's game it is a gimmick, and even most GT fans will admit it. Three teams run this style offense in FBS, GT, Army, and Navy, and because of that teams typically struggle to prepare for it. If we were talking about it in 1978 it would be mainstream, but it's 2016 and it's a gimmick.

Of course Auburn's single wing, and the single wing we ran when Woody Dantzler was at Clemson was a gimmick as well. Brent Venables talked about having to go to Youtube and look at videos of high school teams to figure out how to defend Auburn.

But none of that has anything to do with your asinine original post. There's three disputed start times that all have a rightful claim to be the modern era of college football:

1982 - The end of the split between I-A (FBS) and I-AA (FCS)

1984 - The NCAA vs Oklahoma Board of Regents. The court decision that returned media rights to the schools

1992 - The 85 scholarship limit goes in effect

These are legitimate dates for the beginning of the modern era of college football, not some random date that some message board moron picked out of thin air to maximize the point he was making.

it is so weird a Clemson fan is mad that I posted records against teams. you such a unlikeable redneck. you can't deny tehse are good records, regardless of the timeframe. s

you seem like the most miserable person in the world.


you spent all week bitching about how high school football is tonight. why aren't you at the high school game. isn't the big Newberry vs Propserity high school game tonight . lol

most of your dumb posts are about money. you hardley even talk about football on here.

G' tech's issues have mostly been on defense, not offense. i've poitned out they usually have a lot of yardage on offense most seasons. you don't even talk about their defense,

(10-07-2016 07:47 PM)ClemVegas Wrote:  it is so weird a Clemson fan is mad that I posted records against teams. you such a unlikeable redneck.

you seem like the most miserable person in the world.


you spent all week bitching about how high school football is tonight. why aren't you at the high school game.

most of your dumb posts are about money. you hardley even talk about football on here.

I don;t have a problem posting records against teams, I do have a problem with someone who posts them in a random way to maximize the effect they are trying to portray. I mean I could get into you posting the records under Dabo, or since 2000, or anything that a normal person would consider tangible. You admitted in an earlier you adjusted the start point to make the record against South Carolina better. That;s not tangible to anybody but you.

I'm not miserable, I just have a low tolerance for idiots.

High school games got postponed due to Hurricane Matthew idiot.

And I make plenty of football posts around here. Have a football conversation right here on the front page. Check it out, you might learn something.

Oh and looking at all the grammar and spelling errors in the post above and in most of your posts maybe you should strive to be more of a redneck. Evidently Newberry does a far better job of teaching those basic skills than Clemson.

you couldn't even get into Clemson. you are not smarter than anybody, newberry redneck. you are so arrogant and a social retard. why do you need to stop by to complain.

you more than welcome to post Clemson record for any timeframe you want. that would be more logical than whining like diva . that doesn't chage the records that i posted though.

(10-07-2016 07:57 PM)ClemVegas Wrote:  you couldn't even get into Clemson. you are not smarter than anybody, newberry redneck. you are so arrogant and a social retard. why do you need to stop by to complain.

you more than welcome to post Clemson record for any timeframe you want. that would be more logical than whining like diva .

I got into Clemson and several other colleges where I applied. I went to Newberry because of finances. They had offered me a partial baseball scholarship and honored it with a matching academic scholarship despite having a severe knee injury from a motorcycle wreck that ended my playing career. Between that and scholarship money available from my church (Lutheran church, Newberry is a Lutheran college) I was able to go get a degree and have minimal debt which I was able to pay off within three years of graduating. It also freed up money that my widowed Mother was able to use to send my non-athlete Brother to school and get his degree as well, also with minimal debt.

We've covered this before and you insist on bringing it up. Perhaps you need to print this post out and post it beside your monitor so you don't make yourself look like an even bigger fool than you normally do.

how about you stop responding to my posts on here. you are an abrasive troll. i don't want your autobio, redneck



you are a Clemson fan but you are biatching that i posted recent W-L against teams. you are like this angry nutjob. it is gonna be ok. hang tough if you can