Machiavelli
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The fact checking Avalanche cometh.
It won't be a good week for the Trumpsters when the fact checkers come in.
You have been warned Trumpettes.
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10-04-2016 10:02 PM |
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Kronke
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RE: The fact checking Avalanche cometh.
Even if everything Kaine said was true (far from it), he lost the debate solely on the way he carried himself.
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10-04-2016 10:21 PM |
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Machiavelli
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RE: The fact checking Avalanche cometh.
Again
He may have won tonight but he will end up the big loser when the fact checkers come through. It was a disastrous night for the Trump campaign. Tim Kaine came prepared and told the truth. Pence was either ignorant or lying. I just think he's dumb and couldn't possibly remember everything. Pence couldn't defend Donald.
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10-04-2016 10:30 PM |
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RE: The fact checking Avalanche cometh.
People make valiant efforts to defend both candidates but it's futile. They're two of the vilest creepy people alive.
Probable explains their close friendship.
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10-04-2016 10:48 PM |
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Machiavelli
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RE: The fact checking Avalanche cometh.
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10-05-2016 07:57 AM |
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RE: The fact checking Avalanche cometh.
(10-04-2016 10:30 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: Again
He may have won tonight but he will end up the big loser when the fact checkers come through. It was a disastrous night for the Trump campaign. Tim Kaine came prepared and told the truth. Pence was either ignorant or lying. I just think he's dumb and couldn't possibly remember everything. Pence couldn't defend Donald.
Mach, I really like you but your recent string of trolling posts is sad. Sorry friend but you're going on ignore.
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10-05-2016 08:00 AM |
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RE: The fact checking Avalanche cometh.
“She worked a tough negotiation with nations around the world to eliminate the Iranian nuclear weapons program without firing a shot.”
—Kaine
Kaine leans way over on his skis here. The Iranian nuclear agreement was actually negotiated by Clinton’s successor, John Kerry
Clinton and Kaine are “actually advocating $1 trillion in tax increases.”
—Mike Pence
Indeed, Clinton’s economic plan would raise an estimated $1.46 trillion in tax revenues over the next decade, according to an analysis by economist Mark Zandi.
“Richard Nixon released tax returns when he was under audit.”
—Kaine
This is correct. A key difference here is that Nixon did not release his taxes while he was a presidential candidate; he did so in 1973, a year after he was re-elected.
“Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine want to increase the Syrian refugee program by 550 percent.”
—Pence
This is correct. Clinton has said she supports President Obama’s decision to accept 10,000 Syrian refugees in fiscal year 2016 — and that she would support an increase up to 65,000.
“The second component of the [Trump] plan is massive tax breaks for the very top, trillions of dollars of tax breaks for people just like Donald Trump. The problem with this, Elaine, is that’s exactly what we did 10 years ago and it put the economy into the deepest recession — the deepest recession since the 1930s.”
—Kaine
Kaine repeats a line that recently earned Hillary Clinton Three Pinocchios. But no credible analyst would cite the Bush tax cuts as playing a key role in spurring the economic crash.
Kaine puts it even more starkly than Clinton. The Clinton campaign tried to suggest income inequality, exacerbated by tax cuts, led to the stagnation of the middle class and spurred excess borrowing and leverage — key components of the crash along with lax regulation. But that’s a real stretch, given that a housing bubble was the key trigger. The causes of the Great Recession are complex and debatable but there’s no debate that it is wrong to put the Bush tax cuts at the top of the list.
“That’s why Donald Trump’s claim that he wants to — that NATO is obsolete and that we need to get rid of NATO is so dangerous.”
—Kaine
Trump has called the North Atlantic Treaty Organization obsolete but he has not said he wants to get rid of it. Asked specifically by The Washington Post in March if he wanted to pull out of NATO, he said, “I don’t want to pull it out.
“We have the smallest Navy since 1916”
—Pence
This talking point is a poor way to depict the country’s naval fleet needs. Gunboats of 1915 and aircraft carriers of 2015 are not the same. And military budget, fleet needs and historical circumstances are much different in 2015 than they were in 1916.
“She [Clinton] went toe-to-toe with Russia and lodged protests when they went into Georgia.”
—Kaine
This is an odd, inaccurate comment. The Russia-Georgia war took place in 2008, when Clinton was still a U.S. senator. Bush’s secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice, lodged the protests.
Source withheld to keep people from bitching over something so trivial. Both candidates told a few fib and exaggerated.
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10-05-2016 08:45 AM |
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Hood-rich
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RE: The fact checking Avalanche cometh.
It's safe to assume that everything that comes out of a leftists mouth is a lie.
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10-05-2016 09:09 AM |
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10-05-2016 09:10 AM |
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RE: The fact checking Avalanche cometh.
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10-05-2016 01:16 PM |
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RE: The fact checking Avalanche cometh.
(10-04-2016 10:02 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: It won't be a good week for the Trumpsters when the fact checkers come in.
You have been warned Trumpettes.
Oh but didn't you hear. The fact checkers are now not a legit source of information.
You see, facts aren't facts anymore.
This is where we are at now in this country.
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10-05-2016 01:33 PM |
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RE: The fact checking Avalanche cometh.
(10-04-2016 10:02 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: It won't be a good week for the Trumpsters when the fact checkers come in.
You have been warned Trumpettes.
We don't GAF about facts. This campaign is fueled by strength.
(This post was last modified: 10-05-2016 01:57 PM by firmbizzle.)
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10-05-2016 01:56 PM |
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RE: The fact checking Avalanche cometh.
(10-04-2016 10:02 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: It won't be a good week for the Trumpsters when the fact checkers come in.
You have been warned Trumpettes.
Glad you warned us "Trumpettes". You were just an unbelievable wizard educating us poor Deplorables. Your brilliance is just too awesome for us. So how does it feel to be so f'ing smart now??
(This post was last modified: 12-10-2016 07:42 PM by usmbacker.)
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12-10-2016 07:23 PM |
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RE: The fact checking Avalanche cometh.
(12-10-2016 07:23 PM)usmbacker Wrote: (10-04-2016 10:02 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: It won't be a good week for the Trumpsters when the fact checkers come in.
You have been warned Trumpettes.
Glad you warned us "Trumpettes". You were just an unbelievable wizard educating us poor Deplorables. Your brilliance is just too awesome for us. So how does it feel to be so f'ing smart now??
If you pick on Mach, does that make you a misogynist?
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12-11-2016 05:53 PM |
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usmbacker
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