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RE: D-II/D-III/NAIA movement
Cutting football is the wrong move. Yeah, it is expensive, but the money do go to programs that bleed money that do not generate money for the other programs, mainly women sports. HSU needs competition that are close to them in the same conference. UC.-Davis, Cal. Poly and Sacramento State in the same conference for football with Azusa Pacific. A former AD of East Bay State put up a blueprint plan to bring back football. Long Beach State, Fullerton State and Northridge State were looking at it, and from what I read Cal.-Irvine President seems to be opened about adding the sport in the future because of student interests. We could have a solid southwest football conference in the future with Humboldt State and Azusa Pacific along with Northern Arizona might be an interested conference. We could see Northern Arizona and Azusa Pacific winning the conference title for awhile.
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(09-11-2017 03:04 PM)johnintx Wrote:  Humboldt State football is in jeopardy:

http://www.times-standard.com/article/NJ.../170909863

That would put the GNAC at four football members. Which would be further pressure for APU (and Central Washington?) to go D1. Western Oregon back to the NAIA? Don't know what to think about Simon Fraser.
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(09-11-2017 11:15 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 03:04 PM)johnintx Wrote:  Humboldt State football is in jeopardy:

http://www.times-standard.com/article/NJ.../170909863

That would put the GNAC at four football members. Which would be further pressure for APU (and Central Washington?) to go D1. Western Oregon back to the NAIA? Don't know what to think about Simon Fraser.

There is no pressure to go to D1....as you need an invite to a D1 conference. APU would just go Indy in Football or possibly be an affiliate at the #12 football in the RMAC.

Simon Frazier would go Indy in football and possibly Western Oregon but have to wonder if they would drop football all together unless they return to the NAIA. SF worked hard to get into the NCAA hoping that D1 is possible for a Canadian school so they will hold out. I do see the Big Sky taking SF if they are ever eligible for D1 classification.
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RE: D-II/D-III/NAIA movement
(09-12-2017 07:40 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 11:15 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 03:04 PM)johnintx Wrote:  Humboldt State football is in jeopardy:

http://www.times-standard.com/article/NJ.../170909863

That would put the GNAC at four football members. Which would be further pressure for APU (and Central Washington?) to go D1. Western Oregon back to the NAIA? Don't know what to think about Simon Fraser.

There is no pressure to go to D1....as you need an invite to a D1 conference. APU would just go Indy in Football or possibly be an affiliate at the #12 football in the RMAC.

Simon Frazier would go Indy in football and possibly Western Oregon but have to wonder if they would drop football all together unless they return to the NAIA. SF worked hard to get into the NCAA hoping that D1 is possible for a Canadian school so they will hold out. I do see the Big Sky taking SF if they are ever eligible for D1 classification.

"Motivation" might be a better word than "pressure". They claimed that scheduling opportunities were one of the main reasons to go D2 in the first place, and as the GNAC shrinks they are getting back to the scheduling difficulties they had in the NAIA. Certainly the RMAC is an option. So is working something out with the Big Sky to get an invitation, and going D1 would help them keep pace with CBU in Southern California. D1 is making more and more sense for APU.

And the NAIA is natural for Western Oregon. They would have natural rivalries with Southern Oregon and Eastern Oregon, and Oregon Tech outside of football.
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(09-12-2017 09:21 AM)teamvsn Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 07:40 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 11:15 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 03:04 PM)johnintx Wrote:  Humboldt State football is in jeopardy:

http://www.times-standard.com/article/NJ.../170909863

That would put the GNAC at four football members. Which would be further pressure for APU (and Central Washington?) to go D1. Western Oregon back to the NAIA? Don't know what to think about Simon Fraser.

There is no pressure to go to D1....as you need an invite to a D1 conference. APU would just go Indy in Football or possibly be an affiliate at the #12 football in the RMAC.

Simon Frazier would go Indy in football and possibly Western Oregon but have to wonder if they would drop football all together unless they return to the NAIA. SF worked hard to get into the NCAA hoping that D1 is possible for a Canadian school so they will hold out. I do see the Big Sky taking SF if they are ever eligible for D1 classification.

"Motivation" might be a better word than "pressure". They claimed that scheduling opportunities were one of the main reasons to go D2 in the first place, and as the GNAC shrinks they are getting back to the scheduling difficulties they had in the NAIA. Certainly the RMAC is an option. So is working something out with the Big Sky to get an invitation, and going D2 would help them keep pace with CBU in Southern California. D1 is making more and more sense for APU.

And the NAIA is natural for Western Oregon. They would have natural rivalries with Southern Oregon and Eastern Oregon, and Oregon Tech outside of football.

That is a better word. APU is pretty football crazy so I wouldn't doubt they would find a way to keep football even if they got an invite to the WAC and play Indy football at the FCS level. Unfortunately, they will have to wait for Cal Baptist for finish transitioning before they would get an invite unless the WAC would have enough schools to allow 2 transitioning teams at the same time to not cause scheduling issues.

I can also see if APU does get a D1 invite, that a football only conference could be created with UCD, Sac St, APU, Cal Poly, S. Ut and NAU.

I think Western should return to the NAIA. They haven't separated themselves from their previous NAIA members.
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(09-11-2017 11:15 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 03:04 PM)johnintx Wrote:  Humboldt State football is in jeopardy:

http://www.times-standard.com/article/NJ.../170909863

That would put the GNAC at four football members. Which would be further pressure for APU (and Central Washington?) to go D1. Western Oregon back to the NAIA? Don't know what to think about Simon Fraser.

This is very serious. I've been to that area before(near Humboldt State), and there isn't that much to do besides football & basketball there. Your choices would be as follows: hiking, fishing, and hunting. That's it. Things have got to be really bad for them to really be pondering that possibility.
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Could NCAA D1 give a waiver to create a new western D1 with the help from the WAC and Big Sky?

WAC football with a new west coast D1 conference.

Humboldt State
UC-Davis
Cal. Poly
Sacramento State
Northern Arizona
Azusa Pacific
New Mexico State if they drop to FCS.
Southern Utah
Western New Mexico
Dixie State
Colorado State-Pueblo
Mexico University that wants to join D2

Big Sky football
Portland State
Central Washington
Eastern Washington
Simon Fraser
Western Oregon
Idaho
Idaho State
Montana
Montana State
Northern Colorado
Colorado Mesa
Weber State

New West Coast
Simon Fraser
Western Washington
Central Washington
Western Oregon
CETYS Universidad (football as well)
Alaska
Alaska-Anchorage
Humboldt State
East Bay State
Azusa Pacific
UC-San Diego
Dixie State
Western New Mexico
Colorado State-Pueblo
Colorado Mesa

The new conference will not have instant access t st season play for several years unless they get invited into another conference.
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Without West Texas A&M and Arizona Christian, this idea goes nowhere.
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I guess Azusa Pacific could go straight to the Big Sky now that North Dakota is out of the way, but I don't know if the Big Sky really wants to take a school from Division II, and a private school on top of that.
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What if Azusa Pacific and Simon Frazier approached the WAC? Both become FCS independents.

What kind of language is there from the NCAA about D2 schools with football accepting invitations from nonfootball D1 leagues?

Maybe the Big Sky likes the idea of a second FCS autobid for a western team and let's the California teams play in a WAC FCS league with those two and San Diego?
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