(09-28-2016 01:43 PM)tigergg Wrote:  If this country keeps going in the direction it is going their won't be anything to breakaway from, no one will be getting paid anything and contracts won't mean squat unless you can negotiate with gold and silver!! Just saying

Cheer up! Like a wise man once said "...the world is ours"

(09-28-2016 02:25 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(09-28-2016 02:13 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(09-28-2016 01:42 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(09-28-2016 01:34 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(09-28-2016 01:09 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  Yup, the $EC should add The University of Memphis because it is in a great geographic position and would add ratings in Memphis!

If you think the $EC isn't Tv market driven, I, respectfully, don't think you understand how this works.

The $EC added TAMU for the 2nd largest state in the country population wise, with 2 top ten TV markets and 7 top 100 TV markets. Houston metro has more people than Oklahoma. They added Mizzou because of St. Louis and Kansas City.

Big TV markets means more households to clamor for cable and satellite carriers to carry the $EC network. The more people the have the channel, the bigger the audience. The bigger the audience, the better the positioning with cable carriers. The better the positioning, the greater the revenue. They already have national games on two networks. The $EC's greatest opportunity for revenue growth is the $EC Network. They want to make sure it is in as many homes as possible. So why worry about Oxford with only 10k homes when Norfolk metro has 800,000 that have no reason to demand the $EC Network on their cable system?


So why Kansas? Why not Delaware? New Mexico? West Virginia? Why not add the University of Rhode Island!?!

West Virginia may happen too. Did you see the Bristol game?

no, who did West Virginia play in Bristol?

You miss the point. Two teams with nothing but geographic proximity in common created an event. It wasn't tv markets that filled that racetrack. It was people's associations and pride. That is why adding Kansas and West Virginia make sense. It is groups not markets that make the SEC work. Groups transcend markets. The rest of the leagues are playing in the minors.[/php]

Virginia Tech is in a state with 8 million people. WVU is in a state smaller than every state in the $EC (by at least a million people!)

West Virginia has as many people as metro Nashville.

Why is that so hard to understand. $EC is fueled by money; not proximity.

Because proximity is why it was born and the reason it makes more money than everyone else.

When it was born it included the University of the South and not Texas A & M.

It makes money because it wins. But now it's about tv audience. If it doesn't expand the audience significantly, it doesn't help the current members.

(09-28-2016 03:50 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  When it was born it included the University of the South and not Texas A & M.

It makes money because it wins. But now it's about tv audience. If it doesn't expand the audience significantly, it doesn't help the current members.

When you add Kansas, for example, you don't just pick up people in Kansas. You pick up people with ties to Kansas. And you pick up people who will root against Kansas. Those numbers are significant beyond one tv market. When it is a whole state those numbers are quite large.

This is why city and directional schools have limited appeal. We don't have the cross-market factor even a small state school delivers.

(09-28-2016 04:54 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(09-28-2016 03:50 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  When it was born it included the University of the South and not Texas A & M.

It makes money because it wins. But now it's about tv audience. If it doesn't expand the audience significantly, it doesn't help the current members.

When you add Kansas, for example, you don't just pick up people in Kansas. You pick up people with ties to Kansas. And you pick up people who will root against Kansas. Those numbers are significant beyond one tv market. When it is a whole state those numbers are quite large.

This is why city and directional schools have limited appeal. We don't have the cross-market factor even a small state school delivers.

Kansas has fewer people than Mississippi or Arkansas; the two smallest $EC states. To add insult to injury for Kansas, the $EC already has a member that puts the $EC in Kansas's largest metropolitan area; Kansas City.

But what I really don't get, since you don't understand why Kansas wouldn't be an $EC target, is how you speak on groups and imply tradition, but you think a school in the midwest/great plains would fit with a conference based in the south.

(09-28-2016 05:36 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(09-28-2016 04:54 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(09-28-2016 03:50 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  When it was born it included the University of the South and not Texas A & M.

It makes money because it wins. But now it's about tv audience. If it doesn't expand the audience significantly, it doesn't help the current members.

When you add Kansas, for example, you don't just pick up people in Kansas. You pick up people with ties to Kansas. And you pick up people who will root against Kansas. Those numbers are significant beyond one tv market. When it is a whole state those numbers are quite large.

This is why city and directional schools have limited appeal. We don't have the cross-market factor even a small state school delivers.

Kansas has fewer people than Mississippi or Arkansas; the two smallest $EC states. To add insult to injury for Kansas, the $EC already has a member that puts the $EC in Kansas's largest metropolitan area; Kansas City.

But what I really don't get, since you don't understand why Kansas wouldn't be an $EC target, is how you speak on groups and imply tradition, but you think a school in the midwest/great plains would fit with a conference based in the south.

I'll grant you the Midwest vs Southern culture point. But I still believe the SEC is operating from a fundamentally different stance than all the other conferences partly because of its history and partly because it can. They don't have to focus on making more money. They have the luxury of thinking a bit further down the road.