(09-26-2016 04:52 PM)LouisvilleHilltopper Wrote:  Updating this because I had the wrong capacity for WKU (silly me trying to use my memory)...

Week Four Attendance:
23,674 of 22,113 - 107.1% - Western Kentucky - vs Vanderbilt
40,592 of 38,227 - 106.2% - Marshall University - vs #3 Louisville
20,118 of 20,118 - 100.0% - Old Dominion - vs UTSA
18,524 of 20,000 - 92.6% - Florida International - vs UCF
20,105 of 30,788 - 65.3% - Middle Tennessee - vs Louisiana Tech
13,846 of 29,419 - 47.1% - Florida Atlantic - vs Ball State
20,792 of 47,000 - 44.2% - Rice University - vs North Texas
21,419 of 51,500 - 41.6% - Texas El Paso - vs Southern Miss


Average Attendance to Date:
15,444 of 15,314 - 100.8%- Charlotte
20,118 of 20,118 - 100.0% - Old Dominion
21,480 of 22,113 - 97.1%- Western Kentucky
18,278 of 20,000 - 91.4% - Florida International
28,707 of 36,000 - 79.7% - Southern Miss
30,446 of 38,227 - 79.6%- Marshall
20,164 of 30,850 - 65.4%- North Texas
20,036 of 30,788 - 65.1% - Middle Tennessee
16,910 of 28,019 - 60.4% - Louisiana Tech
23,920 of 47,000 - 50.9% - Rice University
29,810 of 51,500 - 57.9% - Texas El Paso
14,366 of 29,419 - 48.8% - Florida Atlantic
25,708 of 72,000 - 35.7% - Texas San Antonio

The good news is that four members are averaging over 25,000 per game.

(09-26-2016 04:52 PM)LouisvilleHilltopper Wrote:  Updating this because I had the wrong capacity for WKU (silly me trying to use my memory)...

Week Four Attendance:
23,674 of 22,113 - 107.1% - Western Kentucky - vs Vanderbilt
40,592 of 38,227 - 106.2% - Marshall University - vs #3 Louisville
20,118 of 20,118 - 100.0% - Old Dominion - vs UTSA
18,524 of 20,000 - 92.6% - Florida International - vs UCF
20,105 of 30,788 - 65.3% - Middle Tennessee - vs Louisiana Tech
13,846 of 29,419 - 47.1% - Florida Atlantic - vs Ball State
20,792 of 47,000 - 44.2% - Rice University - vs North Texas
21,419 of 51,500 - 41.6% - Texas El Paso - vs Southern Miss


Average Attendance to Date:
15,444 of 15,314 - 100.8%- Charlotte
20,118 of 20,118 - 100.0% - Old Dominion
21,480 of 22,113 - 97.1%- Western Kentucky
18,278 of 20,000 - 91.4% - Florida International
28,707 of 36,000 - 79.7% - Southern Miss
30,446 of 38,227 - 79.6%- Marshall
20,164 of 30,850 - 65.4%- North Texas
20,036 of 30,788 - 65.1% - Middle Tennessee
16,910 of 28,019 - 60.4% - Louisiana Tech
23,920 of 47,000 - 50.9% - Rice University
29,810 of 51,500 - 57.9% - Texas El Paso
14,366 of 29,419 - 48.8% - Florida Atlantic
25,708 of 72,000 - 35.7% - Texas San Antonio

I just wanna add some things about our Alamodome. The first thing is that we've closed the upper deck for our football games this year, meaning our capacity for the lower and club level is actually 36,582. I'm bringing it up because you made that adjustment for Rice, as their stadium capacity is actually 70K, but they closed off sections of their stadium as well to put it at its current capacity which you have listed. You may not have been aware of that though, so I just wanted to make you aware.

The second thing is that our Alamodome was never sold out for any event. Unless I'm mistaken, our largest crowd ever there was for a George Strait concert which had 71K in attendance.

The third thing is that the regular seating capacity isn't actually 72,000. It's typically 65K, but is expandable to 72K for concerts, bowl games, or to host a Super Bowl (which will never happen).

(09-26-2016 02:34 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(09-26-2016 12:30 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  

(09-26-2016 11:16 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-26-2016 07:14 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  I'm guessing the WKU fans are still going to say it is a waste for us to have a stadium that seats 38k?

You really doing to start this crap back up? I guess I'm the fool to take your bait...1 out of probably every 10 games Marshall needs 30+k

The other 90% that stadium is 40% empty.

Was just asking.

I think the atmosphere we had on Saturday is well worth having some empty seats the other 5 games of the season.

Didn't know if our recent game changed your mind. The stadium looked big time, and it was awesome with the stripes.

I thought you guys did a great job with the crowd. My wife ( a casual fan) thought all the white sections was Louisville fans because there was some red scattered in with the white. She said wow there is a lot of Louisville fans there, I then told here that Marshall was stripping the stadium Green/White

I was at the game. Looked like 5-6k UofL fans at the game. It was a great atmosphere. Both fans were great at the tailgate, a lot of co-mingling. I'm a USM grad and my wife is a MU grad, so I go to a lot of the Marshall sporting events.

(09-27-2016 11:43 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(09-26-2016 04:52 PM)LouisvilleHilltopper Wrote:  Updating this because I had the wrong capacity for WKU (silly me trying to use my memory)...

Week Four Attendance:
23,674 of 22,113 - 107.1% - Western Kentucky - vs Vanderbilt
40,592 of 38,227 - 106.2% - Marshall University - vs #3 Louisville
20,118 of 20,118 - 100.0% - Old Dominion - vs UTSA
18,524 of 20,000 - 92.6% - Florida International - vs UCF
20,105 of 30,788 - 65.3% - Middle Tennessee - vs Louisiana Tech
13,846 of 29,419 - 47.1% - Florida Atlantic - vs Ball State
20,792 of 47,000 - 44.2% - Rice University - vs North Texas
21,419 of 51,500 - 41.6% - Texas El Paso - vs Southern Miss


Average Attendance to Date:
15,444 of 15,314 - 100.8%- Charlotte
20,118 of 20,118 - 100.0% - Old Dominion
21,480 of 22,113 - 97.1%- Western Kentucky
18,278 of 20,000 - 91.4% - Florida International
28,707 of 36,000 - 79.7% - Southern Miss
30,446 of 38,227 - 79.6%- Marshall
20,164 of 30,850 - 65.4%- North Texas
20,036 of 30,788 - 65.1% - Middle Tennessee
16,910 of 28,019 - 60.4% - Louisiana Tech
23,920 of 47,000 - 50.9% - Rice University
29,810 of 51,500 - 57.9% - Texas El Paso
14,366 of 29,419 - 48.8% - Florida Atlantic
25,708 of 72,000 - 35.7% - Texas San Antonio

I just wanna add some things about our Alamodome. The first thing is that we've closed the upper deck for our football games this year, meaning our capacity for the lower and club level is actually 36,582. I'm bringing it up because you made that adjustment for Rice, as their stadium capacity is actually 70K, but they closed off sections of their stadium as well to put it at its current capacity which you have listed. You may not have been aware of that though, so I just wanted to make you aware.

The second thing is that our Alamodome was never sold out for any event. Unless I'm mistaken, our largest crowd ever there was for a George Strait concert which had 71K in attendance.

The third thing is that the regular seating capacity isn't actually 72,000. It's typically 65K, but is expandable to 72K for concerts, bowl games, or to host a Super Bowl (which will never happen).

Thanks for the clarifications. I asked about the Alamodome earlier in the thread because I knew you all only used a certain portion. I'll update.

(09-27-2016 12:37 PM)LouisvilleHilltopper Wrote:  

(09-27-2016 11:43 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(09-26-2016 04:52 PM)LouisvilleHilltopper Wrote:  Updating this because I had the wrong capacity for WKU (silly me trying to use my memory)...

Week Four Attendance:
23,674 of 22,113 - 107.1% - Western Kentucky - vs Vanderbilt
40,592 of 38,227 - 106.2% - Marshall University - vs #3 Louisville
20,118 of 20,118 - 100.0% - Old Dominion - vs UTSA
18,524 of 20,000 - 92.6% - Florida International - vs UCF
20,105 of 30,788 - 65.3% - Middle Tennessee - vs Louisiana Tech
13,846 of 29,419 - 47.1% - Florida Atlantic - vs Ball State
20,792 of 47,000 - 44.2% - Rice University - vs North Texas
21,419 of 51,500 - 41.6% - Texas El Paso - vs Southern Miss


Average Attendance to Date:
15,444 of 15,314 - 100.8%- Charlotte
20,118 of 20,118 - 100.0% - Old Dominion
21,480 of 22,113 - 97.1%- Western Kentucky
18,278 of 20,000 - 91.4% - Florida International
28,707 of 36,000 - 79.7% - Southern Miss
30,446 of 38,227 - 79.6%- Marshall
20,164 of 30,850 - 65.4%- North Texas
20,036 of 30,788 - 65.1% - Middle Tennessee
16,910 of 28,019 - 60.4% - Louisiana Tech
23,920 of 47,000 - 50.9% - Rice University
29,810 of 51,500 - 57.9% - Texas El Paso
14,366 of 29,419 - 48.8% - Florida Atlantic
25,708 of 72,000 - 35.7% - Texas San Antonio

I just wanna add some things about our Alamodome. The first thing is that we've closed the upper deck for our football games this year, meaning our capacity for the lower and club level is actually 36,582. I'm bringing it up because you made that adjustment for Rice, as their stadium capacity is actually 70K, but they closed off sections of their stadium as well to put it at its current capacity which you have listed. You may not have been aware of that though, so I just wanted to make you aware.

The second thing is that our Alamodome was never sold out for any event. Unless I'm mistaken, our largest crowd ever there was for a George Strait concert which had 71K in attendance.

The third thing is that the regular seating capacity isn't actually 72,000. It's typically 65K, but is expandable to 72K for concerts, bowl games, or to host a Super Bowl (which will never happen).

Thanks for the clarifications. I asked about the Alamodome earlier in the thread because I knew you all only used a certain portion. I'll update.

Much appreciated.

(09-26-2016 11:54 AM)TTT Wrote:  *updated for % ranking* (who is filing up most of their stadium the best)

Charlotte 101% filled
ODU 100% filled
WKU 97% filled
FIU 91% filled
USM 80% filled
Marshall 80% filled
MTSU 65% filled
UNT 65% filled
La Tech 60% filled
UTEP 58% filled
Rice 51% filled
FAU 49% filled
UTSA 40% filled...I figured you guys would have more attendance with 28k+ enrollment in a city of 1.41 million

Two points about that...

1) It's not that simple. Anyone who has lived in Texas for any amount of time will tell you that it's basically Texas or Texas A&M here. Yes, there are other P5 programs around besides those two, like Baylor, Texas Tech, and TCU, as well as a number of G5 programs, but it's mainly UT and A&M.

Having said that, people in San Antonio aren't going to just suddenly jump on board our train, and support a program that's only 6 years old, after they've grown up as UT or A&M fans, especially not when we're struggling as we are right now. So yes, our metropolitan area is large, but this stuff doesn't happen overnight. Maybe after we've had football for 50 or more years, as most other schools have, that'll change. But for right now, we're a fledgling program in a city full of lifelong UT and A&M fans, trying to make a name for ourselves. Heck, many of our own UTSA alumni will even tell you they grew up following one of those two schools, and still do follow those schools also, though their prime allegiance is now to UTSA.

Take the example of Georgia State. They've had football about as long as UTSA has, play in a dome as we do, and they're only averaging around 15K. Yes, they have Georgia Tech University within their city, but Atlanta's metro area is over twice the size of San Antonio, so that basically negates that disparity. And btw, Georgia State went bowling last season too.

2) Our upper deck has been closed this year, so our capacity is now actually 36,582, just as Rice University had already closed sections of their 70K stadium as well.

I would love to see a % chart of attendance vs population for each school. Every school competes against p5 school from they're respected areas. WKU has within 3-4 hour drive UK, Tennessee,Vandy,Louisville,Cincy Alabama,Memphis,Middle Tennessee,Belmount, Murray State,EKU, NKU,Tennessee State,Lipsomb, Austin Peay,Butler, and the list can just keep going. Each school must find a way to secure your on town, WKU has been slowly winning over UK fans which takes time. Everything I just said will be basically the same for MT. We also are competing with the Tennessee Titans and Nashville Predators for revenue and minor league baseball teams. All that said,,,,, we are in markets less than 1/14th the size of a school like UTSA

(09-27-2016 03:38 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  I would love to see a % chart of attendance vs population for each school. Every school competes against p5 school from they're respected areas. WKU has within 3-4 hour drive UK, Tennessee,Vandy,Louisville,Cincy Alabama,Memphis,Middle Tennessee,Belmount, Murray State,EKU, NKU,Tennessee State,Lipsomb, Austin Peay,Butler, and the list can just keep going. Each school must find a way to secure your on town, WKU has been slowly winning over UK fans which takes time. Everything I just said will be basically the same for MT. We also are competing with the Tennessee Titans and Nashville Predators for revenue and minor league baseball teams. All that said,,,,, we are in markets less than 1/14th the size of a school like UTSA

How about as a percentage of enrollment?

Hey everyone, here's a spreadsheet.

(09-27-2016 02:21 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(09-26-2016 11:54 AM)TTT Wrote:  *updated for % ranking* (who is filing up most of their stadium the best)

Charlotte 101% filled
ODU 100% filled
WKU 97% filled
FIU 91% filled
USM 80% filled
Marshall 80% filled
MTSU 65% filled
UNT 65% filled
La Tech 60% filled
UTEP 58% filled
Rice 51% filled
FAU 49% filled
UTSA 40% filled...I figured you guys would have more attendance with 28k+ enrollment in a city of 1.41 million

Two points about that...

1) It's not that simple. Anyone who has lived in Texas for any amount of time will tell you that it's basically Texas or Texas A&M here. Yes, there are other P5 programs around besides those two, like Baylor, Texas Tech, and TCU, as well as a number of G5 programs, but it's mainly UT and A&M.

Having said that, people in San Antonio aren't going to just suddenly jump on board our train, and support a program that's only 6 years old, after they've grown up as UT or A&M fans, especially not when we're struggling as we are right now. So yes, our metropolitan area is large, but this stuff doesn't happen overnight. Maybe after we've had football for 50 or more years, as most other schools have, that'll change. But for right now, we're a fledgling program in a city full of lifelong UT and A&M fans, trying to make a name for ourselves. Heck, many of our own UTSA alumni will even tell you they grew up following one of those two schools, and still do follow those schools also, though their prime allegiance is now to UTSA.

Take the example of Georgia State. They've had football about as long as UTSA has, play in a dome as we do, and they're only averaging around 15K. Yes, they have Georgia Tech University within their city, but Atlanta's metro area is over twice the size of San Antonio, so that basically negates that disparity. And btw, Georgia State went bowling last season too.

2) Our upper deck has been closed this year, so our capacity is now actually 36,582, just as Rice University had already closed sections of their 70K stadium as well.

that's why tejas and tejas a*um will separate from the rest of everyone in ~decade

So, if you have a widdle bitty stadium, but you fill it up (as you should), saying you're at 100% makes ya feel real all good inside, right? OK..

Since folks think the percentage thingee concerning attendance evens things up, perhaps, then, someone can come up with the percentage of non-qualifiers some schools enroll, compared to those who enroll NONE?

I mean, to even things up and all..

Stay thirsty my friends..

(09-27-2016 07:42 PM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  So, if you have a widdle bitty stadium, but you fill it up (as you should), saying you're at 100% makes ya real all good inside, right? OK..

Since folks think the percentage thingee concerning attendance evens things up, perhaps, then, someone can come up with the percentage of non-qualifiers some schools enroll, compared to those who enroll NONE?

I mean, to even things up and all..

Stay thirsty my friends..

Or we could add in basketball attendance. How many do you all fit in your wigwam? Might be easiest just to go by overall revenues from ticket sales if'n we're measuring dicks.

(09-27-2016 07:55 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-27-2016 07:42 PM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  So, if you have a widdle bitty stadium, but you fill it up (as you should), saying you're at 100% makes ya real all good inside, right? OK..

Since folks think the percentage thingee concerning attendance evens things up, perhaps, then, someone can come up with the percentage of non-qualifiers some schools enroll, compared to those who enroll NONE?

I mean, to even things up and all..

Stay thirsty my friends..

Or we could add in basketball attendance. How many do you all fit in your wigwam? Might be easiest just to go by overall revenues from ticket sales if'n we're measuring dicks.

Some words just make me laugh...and you just hit one.... I'm still laughing!

(09-27-2016 05:02 PM)LouisvilleHilltopper Wrote:  Hey everyone, here's a spreadsheet.

I give La Tech the award for getting the town behind them! Wow! I didn't realize Ruston area was so small.

(09-27-2016 08:56 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(09-27-2016 05:02 PM)LouisvilleHilltopper Wrote:  Hey everyone, here's a spreadsheet.

I give La Tech the award for getting the town behind them! Wow! I didn't realize Ruston area was so small.

That's just those in the city limits. The parish has ~50k people. Either way, yes, impressive.

(09-27-2016 08:56 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(09-27-2016 05:02 PM)LouisvilleHilltopper Wrote:  Hey everyone, here's a spreadsheet.

I give La Tech the award for getting the town behind them! Wow! I didn't realize Ruston area was so small.

I was quite impressed myself when looking at the numbers. Drawing an average of 17k fans from a town of 22k and an enrollment of 12k? That's 50% of everybody in the town/on campus being at the game.

(09-27-2016 07:55 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-27-2016 07:42 PM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  So, if you have a widdle bitty stadium, but you fill it up (as you should), saying you're at 100% makes ya real all good inside, right? OK..

Since folks think the percentage thingee concerning attendance evens things up, perhaps, then, someone can come up with the percentage of non-qualifiers some schools enroll, compared to those who enroll NONE?

I mean, to even things up and all..

Stay thirsty my friends..

Or we could add in basketball attendance. How many do you all fit in your wigwam? Might be easiest just to go by overall revenues from ticket sales if'n we're measuring dicks.

don't get me started on how we have neglected hoops and spent on baseball and the olympic sports.....it's grittin' teeth stupid over decades...

hoops is how we went from indy to joining the metro......it never ceases to amaze me how poorly we dropped the ball

(09-27-2016 07:42 PM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  So, if you have a widdle bitty stadium, but you fill it up (as you should), saying you're at 100% makes ya feel real all good inside, right? OK..

Since folks think the percentage thingee concerning attendance evens things up, perhaps, then, someone can come up with the percentage of non-qualifiers some schools enroll, compared to those who enroll NONE?

I mean, to even things up and all..

Stay thirsty my friends..

Ok...?

The company that did the study before we started football severely underestimated how much support and success we were going to have. But a 20k seat stadium for a startup FCS program was a pretty good place to start, even with the glaring amenity flaws we still have to this day. No one thought that in a little over half a decade we would have moved up. I love how much our fans have kept up the passion and enthusiasm for the program and I do think 50 straight sellouts is impressive, even with a 20,118 seat stadium. However, and I've posted this on the ODU boards in the past, I would rather have 25,000 fans in a 30,000 seat stadium than 20,118 fans in a 20,118 stadium. We hit 50 straight sell-outs, let's move on. But you can't fault ODU for having a small stadium when it was a sitting relic and originally renovated to field a start-up FCS team. We don't have the history of USM and other schools that have allowed them to have bigger stadiums. I have a fear that our phase 2 won't happen for years and that we will be stuck at 22k for a long time. I'm jealous of Charlotte's field because while it is small now, it has the potential to be expanded significantly. ODU is stuck with a stadium surrounded by a neighborhood and historic buildings so expansion is really limited.

But for now, I'll take the realistic (butt-in-seats) 95%+ capacity at every game until we get the new stadium and hopefully phase 2.

(09-25-2016 10:52 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(09-25-2016 10:49 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(09-25-2016 10:41 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  Since this is always a "fun" thing to discuss... Here are the latest attendance figures from this week's games. Unfortunately I foresee our averages as a whole dipping a bit as we get into conference play. I must say ... at least we are drawing 20,000 plus with a few exceptions. That's one minor victory. Please keep this thread civil! Thanks!

Week Four Attendance:
40,592 - Marshall University - vs #3 Louisville
23,674 - Western Kentucky - vs Vanderbilt
21,419 - Texas El Paso - vs Southern Miss
20,792 - Rice University - vs North Texas
20,118 - Old Dominion - vs UTSA
20,105 - Middle Tennessee - vs Louisiana Tech
18,524 - Florida International - vs UCF
13,846 - Florida Atlantic - vs Ball State

Average Attendance to Date:
30,446 - Marshall
29,810 - Texas El Paso
28,707 - Southern Miss
25,708 - Texas San Antonio
23,920 - Rice University
22,586 - CONFERENCE USA AVERAGE
21,480 - Western Kentucky
20,164 - North Texas
20,118 - Old Dominion
20,036 - Middle Tennessee
18,278 - Florida International
16,910 - Louisiana Tech
15,444 - Charlotte
14,366 - Florida Atlantic

I was at the LA Tech-MTSU game. 15K tops. Just saying......everybody apparently uses a different method of counting attendees.

WKU fans have been saying that for years. Seems everybody cooks they're numbers other than us. Attendance should be butts in the seats .... Period

FWIW the last several years UAB was using a turnstile count due to the scrutiny from several people including the trustees. The bigger stadiums are hard to judge. Example: You could fit the entire capacity of some C-USA stadiums on the "home side" at Legion Field.