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-For everything that's gone down so far, if this team operated with even a minimum level of competence they would be 2-2. If they played halfway decent they would be 3-1. The first game was a gift to a Wyoming team that will be lucky to win five games this year. Yesterday we "played" for 20 minutes and came within an eyelash of beating a good WIU team. Minimum competence and those two are wins. We had no problem putting up points on a good SDSU team but we only did it for two quarters. Do it for four and we can win that one too. The thing that frustrates me most about this team is that they tease us by showing, for brief periods, what they can and should be doing all the time.

-Ryan Graham is 40-71 on the season (56.3%) for 387 yards with 5 TDs and 3 picks. He's averaging 9.675 yards per completion (YPC). His completion percentage and YPC are low. To give you an idea, the NCAA stats page lists the top 50 for YPC and number 50 is Clayton Thorson at 12.92 YPC. Maddie averaged 12.9 YPC on Saturday. While that's not setting the world on fire it's a lot better than Graham has done. I like Graham but we saw that Maddie's best attribute is his ability to extend plays by sprinting out. Our offense looks completely different with a mobile QB out there. Maddie seems like our best option for now. Graham
is not an ideal fit for our offense and will need to really develop his working of progressions and hitting hot receivers in order to compensate for his relative lack of mobility.

-If I could fix one problem on defense it would be D-end. We have some issues in the secondary too but problems at D-end are having a ripple effect on the rest of the defense. We've been complaining all season how no one at the Huskie position can hold up against the run. We need to fix that somehow or the Westerns, Centrals, Toledos and heck, Ball States are going to run for 300 on us. I don't know what the answer is there but putting a 210 pound guy there on first down doesn't seem to be it. Our D tackles are looking worse than they are due to the lack of support on the outside. They're essentially the same guys as last year and haven't suddenly forgotten how to play their position. Also, the speed ends are not generating a pass rush so they're bringing nothing to the table right now.

-WIU tackled so much better than us it was ridiculous. There's no excuse for that stuff.

-Interesting stat from Saturday: We ran for 301 yards, averaged 7.5 YPC and lost. Not easy to do.

-Injuries have been a serious problem this year. This is definitely the worst year since '07 for those. As noted above, it's not the only reason we're 0 - 4 but it aint helping either. Guys who are currently out include Drew Hare, Chad Beebe, Ty Harmston, Marcus Jones, Keith Harris (done), Renard Cheren, Jawuan Johnson, Jackson Abresch, Albert Smalls, Anthony Brooks. Deucee Turner left at the 8:30 mark of the 4th quarter yesterday and did not return. Jordan Huff, Sean Folliard and Shawun Lurry seem to be playing hurt. I also wonder about Rajshawn Mosley since he played a lot the last two years but not at all this year. And of course Ruben Dunbar and Cassius Grady had academic problems.

-Big game this Saturday in Muncie. Win it and we have some hope for the conference season. I still think we have the ability on this team to beat anyone on our schedule but we have to execute and stop the dumb penalties. Speaking of penalties I see where they were working Steckler some at right guard. Wouldn't mind seeing more of him or Evans there. The holding penalty that took us from second and goal on the one to first and goal on the 20 and resulted in a field goal was a killer.
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What if.... What if.....

Guess what? If the team had a good QB, O-line, defense, played smart and avoided getting the yellow flags dirty, had decent coaches who could call decent plays, and had some heart, enthusiasm, and desire, we'd be 4-0 now! Unfortunately, none of these exist. Think it will all of a sudden show up against a much-improved MAC?
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Westerns defense were hundreds of times better tacklers than us. Even when we hit people behind the LOS they kept going for a short gain. Safeties and corners constantly look to each other to blame when passes are completed. Seems like they have no clue as to what their responsibilities are.

I don't understand why Sutton Smith is playing DE.

The lack of redshirt junior Olineman is having a disastrous effect on Oline play. For last several years we have rotated OL but do not seem to be doing it this year.

Lurry's risk reward ratio is too high. He's the last line of defense but doesn't seem to realize it.
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I disagree about Lurry. He's done a good job covering and should have 3 picks if he didn't have the dropsies. He will never be a great run stopping CB due to his lack of size but his cover skills more than make up for his lack of run support. He has also shown a lot of heart playing hurt. Pretty sure he graded out much better than the rest of the defense. Lurry is the least of our problems.
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Had some rotation on the OL

Steckler played for Howard a handful of series
Evans rotated with Ruka a couple series too

No issue seeing more of them over Howard next week. Way too many penalties
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Great post 81...

Sometimes it's not your year. We ha ve had a GOLDEN run here in NIU football. Have to develop young ones and reboot for 17'.
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(09-25-2016 09:40 PM)HuskieRak Wrote:  Had some rotation on the OL

Steckler played for Howard a handful of series
Evans rotated with Ruka a couple series too

No issue seeing more of them over Howard next week. Way too many penalties

Is that why we had some success running in the second half? Well, before the coaches took the ball out of Hufff's hands...
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(09-25-2016 09:38 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  I disagree about Lurry. He's done a good job covering and should have 3 picks if he didn't have the dropsies. He will never be a great run stopping CB due to his lack of size but his cover skills more than make up for his lack of run support. He has also shown a lot of heart playing hurt. Pretty sure he graded out much better than the rest of the defense. Lurry is the least of our problems.

Lurry isn't afraid of getting in there and tackling either. I wish everyone on defense tried tackling like he does. Another huge issue is lack of turnovers. We usually dominate the +\ - stats.
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I've seen him give less than stellar effort on some tackles but he did look a lot better last week.
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Of course if our DL and LBs were doing their jobs our secondary wouldn't be missing so many tackles. But since almost every run reaches the second level our DBs end up trying to make every play and they've looked pretty bad...
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Agreed on good post.

I would like to see NIU get as many wins as possible, but not too many to save Careys job. For the future of the program long-term, we need him canned asap.
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(09-25-2016 09:47 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  
(09-25-2016 09:40 PM)HuskieRak Wrote:  Had some rotation on the OL

Steckler played for Howard a handful of series
Evans rotated with Ruka a couple series too

No issue seeing more of them over Howard next week. Way too many penalties

Is that why we had some success running in the second half? Well, before the coaches took the ball out of Hufff's hands...

Didn't notice a difference when either one came in but I'm no OL guru. The 4th qtr was the starting OL the entire time, but that success is probably credited to Maddie and the tempo they finally established on some of those series
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Tough to grade out the OL without film. Casual fans only follow the ball. I look on replay to see which OLineman got his azz handed to him and it's usually 70...
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(09-25-2016 09:16 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  What if.... What if.....

Guess what? If the team had a good QB, O-line, defense, played smart and avoided getting the yellow flags dirty, had decent coaches who could call decent plays, and had some heart, enthusiasm, and desire, we'd be 4-0 now! Unfortunately, none of these exist. Think it will all of a sudden show up against a much-improved MAC?

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(09-25-2016 09:47 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  
(09-25-2016 09:38 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  I disagree about Lurry. He's done a good job covering and should have 3 picks if he didn't have the dropsies. He will never be a great run stopping CB due to his lack of size but his cover skills more than make up for his lack of run support. He has also shown a lot of heart playing hurt. Pretty sure he graded out much better than the rest of the defense. Lurry is the least of our problems.

Lurry isn't afraid of getting in there and tackling either. I wish everyone on defense tried tackling like he does. Another huge issue is lack of turnovers. We usually dominate the +\ - stats.
Have we had a defensive takeaway in 2016?

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Agreed, we have only had a couple defensive take aways. Also, I feel we really have struggled in short yardage situations on third and fourth downs, that falls a lot on the O line
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(09-25-2016 09:16 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  What if.... What if.....

Guess what? If the team had a good QB, O-line, defense, played smart and avoided getting the yellow flags dirty, had decent coaches who could call decent plays, and had some heart, enthusiasm, and desire, we'd be 4-0 now! Unfortunately, none of these exist. Think it will all of a sudden show up against a much-improved MAC?

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(09-26-2016 08:06 AM)Teamduh Wrote:  
(09-25-2016 09:47 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  
(09-25-2016 09:38 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  I disagree about Lurry. He's done a good job covering and should have 3 picks if he didn't have the dropsies. He will never be a great run stopping CB due to his lack of size but his cover skills more than make up for his lack of run support. He has also shown a lot of heart playing hurt. Pretty sure he graded out much better than the rest of the defense. Lurry is the least of our problems.

Lurry isn't afraid of getting in there and tackling either. I wish everyone on defense tried tackling like he does. Another huge issue is lack of turnovers. We usually dominate the +\ - stats.
Have we had a defensive takeaway in 2016?

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Pretty sure we have had an int. Think it was against San Diego state.

I thought this was America.
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(09-26-2016 08:51 AM)numbersdontlie Wrote:  
(09-26-2016 08:06 AM)Teamduh Wrote:  
(09-25-2016 09:47 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  
(09-25-2016 09:38 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  I disagree about Lurry. He's done a good job covering and should have 3 picks if he didn't have the dropsies. He will never be a great run stopping CB due to his lack of size but his cover skills more than make up for his lack of run support. He has also shown a lot of heart playing hurt. Pretty sure he graded out much better than the rest of the defense. Lurry is the least of our problems.

Lurry isn't afraid of getting in there and tackling either. I wish everyone on defense tried tackling like he does. Another huge issue is lack of turnovers. We usually dominate the +\ - stats.
Have we had a defensive takeaway in 2016?

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Pretty sure we have had an int. Think it was against San Diego state.

I thought this was America.
You are correct. I remember now. It was #20. Made a nice play.

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(09-26-2016 09:31 AM)Teamduh Wrote:  
(09-26-2016 08:51 AM)numbersdontlie Wrote:  
(09-26-2016 08:06 AM)Teamduh Wrote:  
(09-25-2016 09:47 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  
(09-25-2016 09:38 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  I disagree about Lurry. He's done a good job covering and should have 3 picks if he didn't have the dropsies. He will never be a great run stopping CB due to his lack of size but his cover skills more than make up for his lack of run support. He has also shown a lot of heart playing hurt. Pretty sure he graded out much better than the rest of the defense. Lurry is the least of our problems.

Lurry isn't afraid of getting in there and tackling either. I wish everyone on defense tried tackling like he does. Another huge issue is lack of turnovers. We usually dominate the +\ - stats.
Have we had a defensive takeaway in 2016?

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Pretty sure we have had an int. Think it was against San Diego state.

I thought this was America.
You are correct. I remember now. It was #20. Made a nice play.

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Mythical Allen the same DB that can't tackle, jumps on a runners back, and gets taken for 10 yards until somebody else comes in to clean up! His fundamentals are **** as our a lot of other players, cough cough I think Lincoln Howard had 5 penalties called against him on Saturday. Coaching perhaps? 05-stirthepot
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