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Report that Liberty will have an FBS bid within months
WDBJ out of Roanoke is reporting that Liberty will have an FBS bid within months. Jerry Falwell Jr has reportedly stated that in an open forum in Lynchburg.

The Sun Belt won't take them, and there would be several schools ahead of them for the MAC or CUSA to even consider it. There is a way for Liberty to get an affiliate bid, but many on this board are adamant and even militant that that won't happen.

http://www.wdbj7.com/sports/libertysports/
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RE: Report that Liberty will have an FBS bid within months
(09-25-2016 04:31 PM)NoDak Wrote:  WDBJ out of Roanoke is reporting that Liberty will have an FBS bid within months. Jerry Falwell Jr has reportedly stated that in an open forum in Lynchburg.

The Sun Belt won't take them, and there would be several schools ahead of them for the MAC or CUSA to even consider it. There is a way for Liberty to get an affiliate bid, but many on this board are adamant and even militant that that won't happen.

http://www.wdbj7.com/sports/libertysports/

What Conference is going to take them with that Baggage? They only really have three scenarios that could happen:

-Both the Belt and C-USA collapses and reform into two new Conferences(see the thread on the Sun Belt Board)

-A Brand New Conference Forms and hope for a Waiver from the NCAA for BB Auto-Bids AND any School that joins gets to keep their Credits.

-Independence. See Akron when they moved up on why the NCAA does not allow for that to happen, unless they got a waiver07-coffee3
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RE: Report that Liberty will have an FBS bid within months
1% possibility: CUSA is bracing for the loss of 1-3 teams when Houston & Cincy go to Big 12 and UTEP goes to MWC. I'd think they'd take JMU well before Liberty, but I guess you never know.

99% possibility: JFJ was simply misquoted or misspoke at the function. Or is outright lying. Neither would surprise me.

0% possibilities:
- Liberty moving up to FBS as independent (NCAA rules don't allow it)
- Liberty moving to WAC and the the WAC being allowed to restart FBS football (NCAA rules weren't intended to allow it and if the attempt were actually made -- which it never will be -- then they'd be quickly rewritten to make it more explicit).
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RE: Report that Liberty will have an FBS bid within months
(09-25-2016 04:51 PM)lance99 Wrote:  
(09-25-2016 04:31 PM)NoDak Wrote:  WDBJ out of Roanoke is reporting that Liberty will have an FBS bid within months. Jerry Falwell Jr has reportedly stated that in an open forum in Lynchburg.

The Sun Belt won't take them, and there would be several schools ahead of them for the MAC or CUSA to even consider it. There is a way for Liberty to get an affiliate bid, but many on this board are adamant and even militant that that won't happen.

http://www.wdbj7.com/sports/libertysports/

What Conference is going to take them with that Baggage? They only really have three scenarios that could happen:

-Both the Belt and C-USA collapses and reform into two new Conferences(see the thread on the Sun Belt Board)

-A Brand New Conference Forms and hope for a Waiver from the NCAA for BB Auto-Bids AND any School that joins gets to keep their Credits.

-Independence. See Akron when they moved up on why the NCAA does not allow for that to happen, unless they got a waiver07-coffee3
You're missing one. E.g. The one MplsBison and Jackfan and others have said I'm an idiot for believing that that conference will be resurrected as an FBS one once again.
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RE: Report that Liberty will have an FBS bid within months
I think it may depend on what happens with BYU. If they don't get in the B12, it will definitely be due to religious views. Liberty may make the play to law suit challenge to the NCAA to be independent FBS the same as BYU. Since conferences option will be denied to Liberty due their beliefs. Similar to Tulane challenging BCS as anti-trust, Liberty may make the same challenge for FBS Independent. Not saying I know anything or if it is valid, just my guess.
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RE: Report that Liberty will have an FBS bid within months
(09-25-2016 05:11 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  I think it may depend on what happens with BYU. If they don't get in the B12, it will definitely be due to religious views. Liberty may make the play to law suit challenge to the NCAA to be independent FBS the same as BYU. Since conferences option will be denied to Liberty due their beliefs. Similar to Tulane challenging BCS as anti-trust, Liberty may make the same challenge for FBS Independent. Not saying I know anything or if it is valid, just my guess.

Court cases take years, unless their is an agreement, and even that takes a while.

Maybe C Arkansas will declare FBS at the same time. 07-coffee3
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RE: Report that Liberty will have an FBS bid within months
I could see a scenario where the NCAA grants a waiver in order to avoid a lawsuit that could potentially knock down their entire house of cards. They've proven in the past that their rules are malleable to protect powerful interests.
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RE: Report that Liberty will have an FBS bid within months
Liberty can try to sue the NCAA, but that's not what the OP is saying. He's saying it's being reported that Liberty's president said at some function that Liberty will have an invitation to an FBS conference in a month.

My take: JFJ is thinking that Houston & Cincy going to the Big 12 will start a chain-reaction leading to Liberty getting an invite from either the CUSA or Sun Belt.

That's stupid, for A) thinking that CUSA will automatically want to backfill to 14 again, and B) for thinking that Liberty must be the top candidate for either conference. Brainless, actually. But not surprising.


Probably don't need to read into it any more than that.
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RE: Report that Liberty will have an FBS bid within months
Liberty wanted a WAC berth in 2011. So did Jacksonville St. The lines of communication should still be open.

Where is Wichita St getting an FBS bid?
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RE: Report that Liberty will have an FBS bid within months
And to those naive to the WAC FBS thing: it's not DOA. It's not dead in the crib. It's not stillborn.

It was never conceived.


The rules pointed out by the consultants hired for Idaho's FBS/FCS study, were never intended to allow the current day WAC to be raised from the dead. That was never meant to be the intention of the way they are stated in the current rulebook.

They've just never been paid attention to, because there has been no need to update them.

If some people actually did try to revive the WAC as FBS, the rules would quickly be re-written.


So it's not dead. It was never alive. Just don't pay any attention to NoDak. Treat him like DavidSt, on this.
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