(09-26-2016 08:28 AM)SubGod22 Wrote:  

(09-25-2016 06:18 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  These rioters should have one demand and one demand only.......naked pictures of Bea Arthur.

Such and Air Head

Heck yeah I am. Did you know I used to play for the Lone Rangers?

(09-25-2016 06:54 PM)dfarr Wrote:  I don't understand the disdain for bankers. It's not like they force you to accept their loans.

Much easier to blame someone else than to look within to solve one's problems.

(09-26-2016 07:52 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(09-26-2016 08:28 AM)SubGod22 Wrote:  

(09-25-2016 06:18 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  These rioters should have one demand and one demand only.......naked pictures of Bea Arthur.

Such and Air Head

Heck yeah I am. Did you know I used to play for the Lone Rangers?

Jimmie Wing knew how to take care of you.

While I'm not confident any of those groups could find a coconut on Coconut Island, I feel pretty confident that any proposed fix will involve taking money from me and giving it to Democratic constituencies.

(09-27-2016 02:29 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  While I'm not confident any of those groups could find a coconut on Coconut Island, I feel pretty confident that any proposed fix will involve taking money from me and giving it to Democratic constituencies.

Not actually. Areas with such law enforcement concerns could stipulate that cops go unarmed. Police chiefs could implement more passive enforcement doctrine or not doggedly pursue laws that are detrimental to community relations.

(09-28-2016 02:38 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(09-27-2016 02:29 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  While I'm not confident any of those groups could find a coconut on Coconut Island, I feel pretty confident that any proposed fix will involve taking money from me and giving it to Democratic constituencies.

Not actually. Areas with such law enforcement concerns could stipulate that cops go unarmed. Police chiefs could implement more passive enforcement doctrine or not doggedly pursue laws that are detrimental to community relations.

And where are they going to find people to go into those areas as unarmed police officers?

I feel the same way about police killings as I do about killing of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan. You put people into a situation where they are in constant fear of losing their lives, and ask them to make repeated split-second life-or-death decisions, and guess what? They're going to get some of them wrong. Not because there is any war on black people any more than our military is attacking civilians. But because zero mistakes in those environments is beyond the capability of human beings--or technology.

These events where news commentators and activists have been invited to go through the shoot/don't shoot police trainers have been very instructive. Learn the difficulty of the task before you become overly critical of the results.

(09-28-2016 07:45 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-28-2016 02:38 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(09-27-2016 02:29 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  While I'm not confident any of those groups could find a coconut on Coconut Island, I feel pretty confident that any proposed fix will involve taking money from me and giving it to Democratic constituencies.

Not actually. Areas with such law enforcement concerns could stipulate that cops go unarmed. Police chiefs could implement more passive enforcement doctrine or not doggedly pursue laws that are detrimental to community relations.

And where are they going to find people to go into those areas as unarmed police officers?

I feel the same way about police killings as I do about killing of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan. You put people into a situation where they are in constant fear of losing their lives, and ask them to make repeated split-second life-or-death decisions, and guess what? They're going to get some of them wrong. Not because there is any war on black people any more than our military is attacking civilians. But because zero mistakes in those environments is beyond the capability of human beings--or technology.

These events where news commentators and activists have been invited to go through the shoot/don't shoot police trainers have been very instructive. Learn the difficulty of the task before you become overly critical of the results.

They only care that their demands are met. They don't anticipate the fact that such plans might cause police to find other lines of work.

(09-28-2016 02:38 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(09-27-2016 02:29 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  While I'm not confident any of those groups could find a coconut on Coconut Island, I feel pretty confident that any proposed fix will involve taking money from me and giving it to Democratic constituencies.

Not actually. Areas with such law enforcement concerns could stipulate that cops go unarmed. Police chiefs could implement more passive enforcement doctrine or not doggedly pursue laws that are detrimental to community relations.

Owl covered the first part.

As for the bolded section it's been tried and the community didn't want that either. Baltimore cried that they wanted law enforcement to leave them alone and when they did they then cried that law enforcement wasn't doing their job.

Isn't there as many people struck by lightening as there are black men shot by police? Not a common event. Freak accident. Anomaly.

(09-28-2016 12:43 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-28-2016 02:38 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(09-27-2016 02:29 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  While I'm not confident any of those groups could find a coconut on Coconut Island, I feel pretty confident that any proposed fix will involve taking money from me and giving it to Democratic constituencies.

Not actually. Areas with such law enforcement concerns could stipulate that cops go unarmed. Police chiefs could implement more passive enforcement doctrine or not doggedly pursue laws that are detrimental to community relations.

Owl covered the first part.

As for the bolded section it's been tried and the community didn't want that either. Baltimore cried that they wanted law enforcement to leave them alone and when they did they then cried that law enforcement wasn't doing their job.

Actions have consequences. Considering that 'stop snitchin and snitches get stitches' are watch words for police interactions in such communities, their complaints once 5-0 backs off amount to no more than playing the world's smallest violin.

If you want to hold to police to a zero defect standard then passive enforcement ensures that you won't get anymore blacks shot by cops. Resolving that issue apparently triumphs over the fact these neighborhoods are in dire need of law enforcement. Because to hear them tell it the 13% of the US population commits 50% of the violent crime is a gross exaggeration.