Apparently the decision to fire the defensive coordinator was made by the AD and not Kelly. Typically not a good sign when a person above the HC makes a staff decision...

They promoted former UC assistant Greg Hudson to DC from defensive analyst.

I think Petrino going back to Louisville was a special case because he was disgraced/embarrassed by his scandal at Arkansas. He was in a position to be grateful for any P5 opportunity that came his way. If Kelly gets canned from Notre Dame, it will be because he didn't win enough games. Coming back here could be an admission of failure in his mind. Then again, he was awfully close to playing for a national championship while he was here. If we go into the Big 12 with a much larger budget than the Big East days and top-notch facilities... it could be tempting.

I think Petrino was placed at wku by Louisville in anticipation that strong would leave one day. Now you have brohm there who coached under petrino and played at Louisville as insurance for Petrino leaving.

Doss flies wheels up not net jets....like comparing high school soccer to fc Cincinnati

(09-25-2016 05:18 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  It would be a glorious road trip. We'd swing over to Three Floyds for a steak and some Zombiedust.

I'll buy the gas and get the first round.

(09-25-2016 10:36 PM)@ES Trader Wrote:  I think Petrino was placed at wku by Louisville in anticipation that strong would leave one day. Now you have brohm there who coached under petrino and played at Louisville as insurance for Petrino leaving.

You must have a great source! How does that work exactly? Does UL conduct the interviews for the WKU job? Do they let anybody from WKU listen in? Or does UL just call up WKU and say we've decided you'll be hiring Petrino/Brohm? Is WKU allowed to ask "why?" or is "yes sir!" the only permissible answer?

(09-25-2016 10:36 PM)@ES Trader Wrote:  I think Petrino was placed at wku by Louisville in anticipation that strong would leave one day. Now you have brohm there who coached under petrino and played at Louisville as insurance for Petrino leaving.

Doss flies wheels up not net jets....like comparing high school soccer to fc Cincinnati

LOL oh really?! How does this work?

UL couldn't do this if the school was "University of Louiseville at Bowling Green, ULBG) let alone Western Kentucky. UNC can't/doesn't tell UNCC who they can hire for their basketball coach. They certainly can't/won't tell East Carolina who to hire for their basketball coach. Come on man.....

Petrino went to WKU because it was in a good location for him to start over and wait for a better job. I'm sure he expected Strong to leave sooner rather than later. He played it perfectly.

(09-26-2016 01:50 PM)Dannyboy Wrote:  Petrino went to WKU because it was in a good location for him to start over and wait for a better job. I'm sure he expected Strong to leave sooner rather than later. He played it perfectly.

Petrino went to WKU because it was the only place that would hire him as HC. IIRC reports were he was about to agree to be UC's OC before he got the WKU offer.

(09-26-2016 02:45 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(09-26-2016 01:50 PM)Dannyboy Wrote:  Petrino went to WKU because it was in a good location for him to start over and wait for a better job. I'm sure he expected Strong to leave sooner rather than later. He played it perfectly.

Petrino went to WKU because it was the only place that would hire him as HC. IIRC reports were he was about to agree to be UC's OC before he got the WKU offer.

That was just internet speculation. I doubt Petrino was legitemately coming here as there is/was a lot of bad blood between Tuberville and Petrino going back to their days at Auburn over the "Jetgate" incident.

Petrino was Tubs's OC in 2003. He left to go to Louisville prior to the 2004, only to have a secret meeting with some Auburn boosters about the possibility of taking Tubs' job at Auburn. Petrino had initially lied about the incident, but the Louisivlle Courier- Journal produced receipts for the chartered jet that brought Auburn reps to Louisville.

(09-26-2016 02:56 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(09-26-2016 02:45 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(09-26-2016 01:50 PM)Dannyboy Wrote:  Petrino went to WKU because it was in a good location for him to start over and wait for a better job. I'm sure he expected Strong to leave sooner rather than later. He played it perfectly.

Petrino went to WKU because it was the only place that would hire him as HC. IIRC reports were he was about to agree to be UC's OC before he got the WKU offer.

That was just internet speculation. I doubt Petrino was legitemately coming here as there is/was a lot of bad blood between Tuberville and Petrino going back to their days at Auburn over the "Jetgate" incident.

Petrino was Tubs's OC in 2003. He left to go to Louisville prior to the 2004, only to have a secret meeting with some Auburn boosters about the possibility of taking Tubs' job at Auburn. Petrino had initially lied about the incident, but the Louisivlle Courier- Journal produced receipts for the chartered jet that brought Auburn reps to Louisville.

That Peteino incident made Tubby a cool +5 million bucks. Had a provision put in his contract that if hey did it again, he got paid out. Auburn later called the agent for Ole Miss to see about availability...bad news was it was also Tubbs agent. Oops. He marched in the next day and demanded the remainder of his contract in a lump sum.

(09-26-2016 02:56 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(09-26-2016 02:45 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(09-26-2016 01:50 PM)Dannyboy Wrote:  Petrino went to WKU because it was in a good location for him to start over and wait for a better job. I'm sure he expected Strong to leave sooner rather than later. He played it perfectly.

Petrino went to WKU because it was the only place that would hire him as HC. IIRC reports were he was about to agree to be UC's OC before he got the WKU offer.

That was just internet speculation. I doubt Petrino was legitemately coming here as there is/was a lot of bad blood between Tuberville and Petrino going back to their days at Auburn over the "Jetgate" incident.

Petrino was Tubs's OC in 2003. He left to go to Louisville prior to the 2004, only to have a secret meeting with some Auburn boosters about the possibility of taking Tubs' job at Auburn. Petrino had initially lied about the incident, but the Louisivlle Courier- Journal produced receipts for the chartered jet that brought Auburn reps to Louisville.

Depends upon how you define speculation. The Miles/BK threads here are speculation. This was more along the lines of a profootballtalk report that Petrino is expected to join UC shortly unless he lands the vacant WKU job as I recall. Per my point in the other thread, once fired these guys usually don't have as great of next step options as many here seem to think. Luckily for Petrino, his sins were all seen as venial (ethical) rather than mortal (losing) in today's college football.

(09-26-2016 03:08 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  That Peteino incident made Tubby a cool +5 million bucks. Had a provision put in his contract that if hey did it again, he got paid out. Auburn later called the agent for Ole Miss to see about availability...bad news was it was also Tubbs agent. Oops. He marched in the next day and demanded the remainder of his contract in a lump sum.

LOL, is this really true?!?

(09-27-2016 10:39 AM)levydl Wrote:  

(09-26-2016 03:08 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  That Peteino incident made Tubby a cool +5 million bucks. Had a provision put in his contract that if hey did it again, he got paid out. Auburn later called the agent for Ole Miss to see about availability...bad news was it was also Tubbs agent. Oops. He marched in the next day and demanded the remainder of his contract in a lump sum.

LOL, is this really true?!?

Yep. I'll post a link. The agent spilled his guts on it last year.

They took Auburn to the cleaners when they were snooping around for possible replacements. He cashed the huge check, went into business for a but and then to Tech where he was effectively double dipping.

(09-27-2016 10:39 AM)levydl Wrote:  

(09-26-2016 03:08 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  That Peteino incident made Tubby a cool +5 million bucks. Had a provision put in his contract that if hey did it again, he got paid out. Auburn later called the agent for Ole Miss to see about availability...bad news was it was also Tubbs agent. Oops. He marched in the next day and demanded the remainder of his contract in a lump sum.

LOL, is this really true?!?

It sure is. I remember it well. It all happened right before Auburn's undefeated 2004 season.

Reason he was the first coach in history to walk in, tender his resignation, and still get paid $5.7 million remaining on the last 3 years of a contract. Good work if you can get it.

This was the original bleacher report from 2008 which opined about it. Jimmy Sexton had an interview that confirmed the details that I'm still looking for since its been a while. He and Tubbs parted ways and he's no longer his agent to my knowledge.

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/939...izik-a-job

(09-25-2016 07:03 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  

(09-25-2016 05:16 PM)Crewdogz Wrote:  I'd be Rath's navigator and help load the uhaul

I'd drive the 2nd U-Haul. Remember, BK isn't exactly poor.

Agree with Rath on 3-floyds...

Budget Truck Rental is a little cheaper. I think we'll need at least 3 - 24' trucks for BK.

Good thinkin'. I'd need at least half of one for my to go purchase at Tres Floyds.

interesting stuff:

Quote:Column: Not buying that Bobby Petrino is a changed man
By PAUL NEWBERRY
— Sep. 30, 2016 6:16 PM EDT

Bobby Petrino is supposedly a changed man.

Sorry, not buying it.

There are too many selfish missteps along the way to suddenly believe Petrino won't be thinking about himself — and only himself — the next time he reaches an ethical fork in the road.

Rest assured, there's always a next time with this guy.

During his first tenure at Louisville, he was constantly on the prowl for better jobs even while insisting how happy he was. Then he bailed on the Atlanta Falcons with three games to go in his lone season with the NFL team. Finally, he hired his mistress over better-qualified applicants at Arkansas, and then tried to cover up his horrific lapses in judgment after an infamous motorcycle crash.

As with most people who aren't bothered by their conscience, and taking advantage of a college athletics system that's always willing to sell its soul in pursuit of a championship, Petrino managed to slither his way back into the national spotlight with a Louisville redux.

The Cardinals surged to No. 3 in the national rankings with a 63-20 drubbing of powerhouse Florida State a couple of weeks ago, and now they're heading into a Saturday night showdown with fifth-ranked Clemson.

Not surprisingly, Petrino's enablers insist he's finally learned from all his mistakes.

History says otherwise.

And there's a LOT of history.

Let's go back to 2003, when a private jet landed at a small airport near Louisville, and Petrino climbed aboard to secretly interview for a head coaching job at Auburn that didn't actually exist, because the Tigers already had a coach. He didn't bother giving his employers the courtesy of a heads-up to his wandering eye, and didn't seem the least bit concerned that Auburn officials hadn't bothered to go through proper protocols, either.

With Petrino, it's always about me, me, me.

When the sordid affair came to light, the coach and his Auburn suiters were forced to abandon their clandestine courtship. We'll let Petrino's own words take it from here: "I'm going to stay here at the University of Louisville. It's the place I want to be and the job I want."

Yeah, right.

Petrino kept right on winning — let's face it, the guy is a hell of a coach — which led to an annual flirtation with better, higher-paying jobs. Louisville kept bending over backward to keep him happy and finally doled out a 10-year, $25.6 million contract in the summer of 2006. Again, we'll let Petrino speak for himself: "This is where my family wants to be and where I want to be."

Exactly 178 days later, Petrino left for the Falcons.

He quickly made an impression on his new team — and not the kind most people would want. He imposed absurd rules on his players, such as ordering grown men not to talk on flights or at team meals. He treated other team employees with disdain, not even bothering to speak to them when they passed in the hall.

Jimmy Cribb, the longtime official photographer of the Falcons, details it all in his new book, "You'll Never Get In The Game."

"I don't think I've ever seen another person like him," Cribb writes. "I've never had another coach treat me that way, and not just me, anybody."

Petrino's brief tenure in Atlanta was a debacle, though in fairness it wasn't entirely his fault. Franchise quarterback Michael Vick went to prison for dogfighting and never took a snap for his new coach. The Falcons went 3-10 before Petrino bolted for the door again — not long after assuring team owner Arthur Blank he wasn't going anywhere.

Less than 24 hours after coaching the Falcons for the final time, he was in Fayetteville chanting, "Woooo, Pig! Sooie!"

We'll let his epitaph in Atlanta be a form letter to the players, left at each of their lockers after he was gone and containing all the warmth of a Wells Fargo salesman trying to sign you up for another credit card you don't need:

"This decision was not easy but was made in the best interest of me and my family. While my desire would have been to finish out what has been a difficult season for us all, circumstances did not allow me to do so. I appreciate your hard work and wish you the best."

Yuk.

Of course, Petrino would engineer an even greater flop in basic human decency as Arkansas' coach.

He had an affair with a woman half his age, got her a job on the staff and gave her $20,000. Then came a motorcycle crash that left him all beat up and wearing a neck brace. At first, Petrino said he was alone. Then, after dodging multiple chances to tell the truth, he admitted being with his mistress. He only came clean after being tipped off that his lies were going to be exposed in a police report.

Petrino was fired after what athletic director Jeff Long described as "a pattern of misleading and manipulative behavior designed to deceive me and members of the athletic staff, both before and after the motorcycle accident."

Now, the coach is riding high again.

Well, enjoy it while you can, Louisville.

Chances are, another bump in the road is right around the corner.

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Paul Newberry is a sports columnist for The Associated Press. Write to him at pnewberry@ap.org or at http://www.twitter.com/pnewberry1963 . His work can be found at http://bigstory.ap.org/content/paul-newberry .

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