I like the attention we're getting. This is great

(09-29-2016 11:26 AM)banker Wrote:  It is political in that it operates on the assumption that we are not together, thereby making a statement that change is needed. Now, you and I can both agree that is a true statement, yet it is still a statement. I don't think sports is for those type statements.

Hello, OLYMPICS ???

USA TODAY: Old Dominion takes a proactive approach with anthem protests

(09-29-2016 04:45 PM)MoodyBlueRaider Wrote:  The Killing of even one unarmed human being by another human being is always "Unwarranted"! Those who are unwilling, or unable to acknowledge that unarmed black men are being shot by Police Officers without any justification are part of the growing festering problem in our country. And, it has nothing to do with a lack of respect for" Law and Order". The last charlatan who promised to restore "Law and Order" was the Greatest Criminal who ever became President, one Richard Millhouse Nixon! If these college students want to make a "Circle of Unity" more power to them all.

I live where two ARMED police officers died from an armed black man. I only point out his ethnicity because it seems to be all that matters to some people.
He committed these murders after all this 'hands up don't shoot" BS. The leadership that we have now foments this division and hatred to further their agenda to nationalize policing. This is the man behind the curtain that people do not see. Nationalized policing is just what all REAL oppressive governments do.
BTW, few of the black men killed lately were unarmed and all of the officers involved in unjustified shootings are or will be prosecuted. In the end, if you are compliant with police officers, do what they say, my bet is you won't be shot no matter what your race happens to be.

Running, pulling a gun, resisting arrest, fighting? Nothing to do with law and order?
Just as a side note, you do know what 'charlatan' means?
I'm no means a Nixon fan but he never raped anybody that I know of.

(09-29-2016 08:03 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(09-29-2016 04:45 PM)MoodyBlueRaider Wrote:  The Killing of even one unarmed human being by another human being is always "Unwarranted"! Those who are unwilling, or unable to acknowledge that unarmed black men are being shot by Police Officers without any justification are part of the growing festering problem in our country. And, it has nothing to do with a lack of respect for" Law and Order". The last charlatan who promised to restore "Law and Order" was the Greatest Criminal who ever became President, one Richard Millhouse Nixon! If these college students want to make a "Circle of Unity" more power to them all.

I live where two ARMED police officers died from an armed black man. I only point out his ethnicity because it seems to be all that matters to some people.
He committed these murders after all this 'hands up don't shoot" BS. The leadership that we have now foments this division and hatred to further their agenda to nationalize policing. This is the man behind the curtain that people do not see. Nationalized policing is just what all REAL oppressive governments do.
BTW, few of the black men killed lately were unarmed and all of the officers involved in unjustified shootings are or will be prosecuted. In the end, if you are compliant with police officers, do what they say, my bet is you won't be shot no matter what your race happens to be.

Running, pulling a gun, resisting arrest, fighting? Nothing to do with law and order?
Just as a side note, you do know what 'charlatan' means?
I'm no means a Nixon fan but he never raped anybody that I know of.

You are bringing in personal experience, so let me tell you this personal experience. I didn't want to bring this up, but you did. I'm not a black American but a person with skin of colour (my grand parents are immigrant). Im guessing you do know much about stats in sports, so will you in policing. But since as you are a person with knowledge with stats, I hope this gets into your mind. Read this article and tell me what you think .

Regarding my personal experience, I have been stoped and frisked while in Manhattan while being tourist in New York city. I was OK with it back then thinking this was a sacrifice to make America safe. But then after a few years after the stats are released (The funny thing is 89% are innocent), Yes, I don't even own a gun being from Virginia, stopped and frisked without a probable cause. No matter your race you wouldn't be mad at this. But then you look at the stats where 50% is more of African American, and 85% is coloured people, you think and look back at your incident and question yourself, " Really? Really?". Do you ever question yourself that this could have been you if you were colored??'. Hell, since then, I have supported Norfolk police more that NYC police because they don't have laws/programs by looking at your colour like stop and friks in NY. I'm have donated more to Norfolk police in a short term then my mom has to NyC police in a long term.

Tell me what you think after reading these stats where 89% could be you. You are a sports person with stats right????

After reading this, you you could say " sorry for you(xxxoduxxx)", but you wont be able to say sorry for the 89% .

Edit: I'm not saying that all white people or police are racist. My point is that that programs like ' Circle of unity' can bring change in minds for people like me(who have faced problems before), and for people like you into thinking that we can make a change in to a better America tomorrow. If we unite, we can have a better America for our kids regardless of their color, skin or religion. That is what sports is all about right?

I'm black and I say this thread has taken a turn it should not have

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The fact that we are debating an act to bring all people together says so much about the decisiveness in this country. I was very moved by the circle of unity by ODU at the UTSA game. I think the coaching staff did the right thing in addressing their players concerns rather than ignoring them. They listened and showed their players they could do something positive instead of going the negative route. I believe sports, especially high school and college is not all about the sport. It is also teaching players how to handle themselves and helping them to become good men. Many of these athletes do not have positive men role models in their lives. The coaches are their only role models. I am proud of ODU and UNCC for respecting their players and being extraordinary role models.

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(09-29-2016 11:47 PM)ODUMonarchs Wrote:  The fact that we are debating an act to bring all people together says so much about the decisiveness in this country. I was very moved by the circle of unity by ODU at the UTSA game. I think the coaching staff did the right thing in addressing their players concerns rather than ignoring them. They listened and showed their players they could do something positive instead of going the negative route. I believe sports, especially high school and college is not all about the sport. It is also teaching players how to handle themselves and helping them to become good men. Many of these athletes do not have positive men role models in their lives. The coaches are their only role models. I am proud of ODU and UNCC for respecting their players and being extraordinary role models.

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you guys have fun with that and watch how she plays out long term...it ain' gonna help change one thingy en macro

the whole thing is nothing more than a reminder that gov't subsidies do not work and they don't understand why this problem still exists....

it ain' about no color of ze skin...the disadvantaged are indeterminate of color today.....but some choose to use the past as a crutch for excuses....

but whatever and oh wellzy....

(09-30-2016 12:37 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-29-2016 11:47 PM)ODUMonarchs Wrote:  The fact that we are debating an act to bring all people together says so much about the decisiveness in this country. I was very moved by the circle of unity by ODU at the UTSA game. I think the coaching staff did the right thing in addressing their players concerns rather than ignoring them. They listened and showed their players they could do something positive instead of going the negative route. I believe sports, especially high school and college is not all about the sport. It is also teaching players how to handle themselves and helping them to become good men. Many of these athletes do not have positive men role models in their lives. The coaches are their only role models. I am proud of ODU and UNCC for respecting their players and being extraordinary role models.

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you guys have fun with that and watch how she plays out long term...it ain' gonna help change one thingy en macro

the whole thing is nothing more than a reminder that gov't subsidies do not work and they don't understand why this problem still exists....

it ain' about no color of ze skin...the disadvantaged are indeterminate of color today.....but some choose to use the past as a crutch for excuses....

but whatever and oh wellzy....

So you're saying middle class black people don't face racism? There's no good ole boys down in Mississippi that wouldn't hire a qualified black person coming out of college.

(09-30-2016 08:59 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-30-2016 12:37 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-29-2016 11:47 PM)ODUMonarchs Wrote:  The fact that we are debating an act to bring all people together says so much about the decisiveness in this country. I was very moved by the circle of unity by ODU at the UTSA game. I think the coaching staff did the right thing in addressing their players concerns rather than ignoring them. They listened and showed their players they could do something positive instead of going the negative route. I believe sports, especially high school and college is not all about the sport. It is also teaching players how to handle themselves and helping them to become good men. Many of these athletes do not have positive men role models in their lives. The coaches are their only role models. I am proud of ODU and UNCC for respecting their players and being extraordinary role models.

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you guys have fun with that and watch how she plays out long term...it ain' gonna help change one thingy en macro

the whole thing is nothing more than a reminder that gov't subsidies do not work and they don't understand why this problem still exists....

it ain' about no color of ze skin...the disadvantaged are indeterminate of color today.....but some choose to use the past as a crutch for excuses....

but whatever and oh wellzy....

So you're saying middle class black people don't face racism? There's no good ole boys down in Mississippi that wouldn't hire a qualified black person coming out of college.

nope....not even close....what I'm saying is 'they' create the problem by making it one....

I'm an old tall white guy from StL that moved here in '74 at the age of nine....do you not think I had to deal with bias being a percieved yank?

until folks begin to understand the problem en macro and develop best practices to solve, stupid shite like this will always exist...

it's why genetic engineering has already begun....

like I previously stated, go for it.....it will be fail all day and the eighth one....

(09-30-2016 09:08 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-30-2016 08:59 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-30-2016 12:37 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-29-2016 11:47 PM)ODUMonarchs Wrote:  The fact that we are debating an act to bring all people together says so much about the decisiveness in this country. I was very moved by the circle of unity by ODU at the UTSA game. I think the coaching staff did the right thing in addressing their players concerns rather than ignoring them. They listened and showed their players they could do something positive instead of going the negative route. I believe sports, especially high school and college is not all about the sport. It is also teaching players how to handle themselves and helping them to become good men. Many of these athletes do not have positive men role models in their lives. The coaches are their only role models. I am proud of ODU and UNCC for respecting their players and being extraordinary role models.

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you guys have fun with that and watch how she plays out long term...it ain' gonna help change one thingy en macro

the whole thing is nothing more than a reminder that gov't subsidies do not work and they don't understand why this problem still exists....

it ain' about no color of ze skin...the disadvantaged are indeterminate of color today.....but some choose to use the past as a crutch for excuses....

but whatever and oh wellzy....

So you're saying middle class black people don't face racism? There's no good ole boys down in Mississippi that wouldn't hire a qualified black person coming out of college.

nope....not even close....what I'm saying is 'they' create the problem by making it one....

I'm an old tall white guy from StL that moved here in '74 at the age of nine....do you not think I had to deal with bias being a percieved yank?

until folks begin to understand the problem en macro and develop best practices to solve, stupid shite like this will always exist...

it's why genetic engineering has already begun....

like I previously stated, go for it.....it will be fail all day and the eighth one....

In macro? The best way will be through generations. Take a look at the views our parents had and how backwards it seems. Someone has to make noise so the kids will look at their parents and see them as the dinosaurs they are and reject their ideas. People in our country are entirely too opinionated and in love with their own opinions to expect them to change in micro. And when you're talking about everyday interactions of people with people there is no macro solution. Fixing economic issues will make people more comfortable and thus quieter but it's not fixing these issues.

(09-30-2016 09:19 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-30-2016 09:08 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-30-2016 08:59 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-30-2016 12:37 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-29-2016 11:47 PM)ODUMonarchs Wrote:  The fact that we are debating an act to bring all people together says so much about the decisiveness in this country. I was very moved by the circle of unity by ODU at the UTSA game. I think the coaching staff did the right thing in addressing their players concerns rather than ignoring them. They listened and showed their players they could do something positive instead of going the negative route. I believe sports, especially high school and college is not all about the sport. It is also teaching players how to handle themselves and helping them to become good men. Many of these athletes do not have positive men role models in their lives. The coaches are their only role models. I am proud of ODU and UNCC for respecting their players and being extraordinary role models.

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you guys have fun with that and watch how she plays out long term...it ain' gonna help change one thingy en macro

the whole thing is nothing more than a reminder that gov't subsidies do not work and they don't understand why this problem still exists....

it ain' about no color of ze skin...the disadvantaged are indeterminate of color today.....but some choose to use the past as a crutch for excuses....

but whatever and oh wellzy....

So you're saying middle class black people don't face racism? There's no good ole boys down in Mississippi that wouldn't hire a qualified black person coming out of college.

nope....not even close....what I'm saying is 'they' create the problem by making it one....

I'm an old tall white guy from StL that moved here in '74 at the age of nine....do you not think I had to deal with bias being a percieved yank?

until folks begin to understand the problem en macro and develop best practices to solve, stupid shite like this will always exist...

it's why genetic engineering has already begun....

like I previously stated, go for it.....it will be fail all day and the eighth one....

In macro? The best way will be through generations. Take a look at the views our parents had and how backwards it seems. Someone has to make noise so the kids will look at their parents and see them as the dinosaurs they are and reject their ideas. People in our country are entirely too opinionated and in love with their own opinions to expect them to change in micro. And when you're talking about everyday interactions of people with people there is no macro solution. Fixing economic issues will make people more comfortable and thus quieter but it's not fixing these issues.

which is why this will never solve anything....it's just another phase in time

(09-30-2016 09:33 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-30-2016 09:19 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-30-2016 09:08 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-30-2016 08:59 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-30-2016 12:37 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  you guys have fun with that and watch how she plays out long term...it ain' gonna help change one thingy en macro

the whole thing is nothing more than a reminder that gov't subsidies do not work and they don't understand why this problem still exists....

it ain' about no color of ze skin...the disadvantaged are indeterminate of color today.....but some choose to use the past as a crutch for excuses....

but whatever and oh wellzy....

So you're saying middle class black people don't face racism? There's no good ole boys down in Mississippi that wouldn't hire a qualified black person coming out of college.

nope....not even close....what I'm saying is 'they' create the problem by making it one....

I'm an old tall white guy from StL that moved here in '74 at the age of nine....do you not think I had to deal with bias being a percieved yank?

until folks begin to understand the problem en macro and develop best practices to solve, stupid shite like this will always exist...

it's why genetic engineering has already begun....

like I previously stated, go for it.....it will be fail all day and the eighth one....

In macro? The best way will be through generations. Take a look at the views our parents had and how backwards it seems. Someone has to make noise so the kids will look at their parents and see them as the dinosaurs they are and reject their ideas. People in our country are entirely too opinionated and in love with their own opinions to expect them to change in micro. And when you're talking about everyday interactions of people with people there is no macro solution. Fixing economic issues will make people more comfortable and thus quieter but it's not fixing these issues.

which is why this will never solve anything....it's just another phase in time

People die, times change. People in the 50's-60's I'm sure were convinced the civil rights movement wouldn't change anything either. That was their opinion. They were wrong.

(09-30-2016 10:38 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-30-2016 09:33 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-30-2016 09:19 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-30-2016 09:08 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-30-2016 08:59 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  So you're saying middle class black people don't face racism? There's no good ole boys down in Mississippi that wouldn't hire a qualified black person coming out of college.

nope....not even close....what I'm saying is 'they' create the problem by making it one....

I'm an old tall white guy from StL that moved here in '74 at the age of nine....do you not think I had to deal with bias being a percieved yank?

until folks begin to understand the problem en macro and develop best practices to solve, stupid shite like this will always exist...

it's why genetic engineering has already begun....

like I previously stated, go for it.....it will be fail all day and the eighth one....

In macro? The best way will be through generations. Take a look at the views our parents had and how backwards it seems. Someone has to make noise so the kids will look at their parents and see them as the dinosaurs they are and reject their ideas. People in our country are entirely too opinionated and in love with their own opinions to expect them to change in micro. And when you're talking about everyday interactions of people with people there is no macro solution. Fixing economic issues will make people more comfortable and thus quieter but it's not fixing these issues.

which is why this will never solve anything....it's just another phase in time

People die, times change. People in the 50's-60's I'm sure were convinced the civil rights movement wouldn't change anything either. That was their opinion. They were wrong.

don't go there....you're deflecting at this point....and I'll just change the channel like white flight....capiche?

ref: NoFunLeague viewership numbers....

wtfe....the majority of all races are sick of listening to the bs....if you don't understand that??? well, you're screwed too....

(09-30-2016 10:50 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-30-2016 10:38 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-30-2016 09:33 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-30-2016 09:19 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-30-2016 09:08 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  nope....not even close....what I'm saying is 'they' create the problem by making it one....

I'm an old tall white guy from StL that moved here in '74 at the age of nine....do you not think I had to deal with bias being a percieved yank?

until folks begin to understand the problem en macro and develop best practices to solve, stupid shite like this will always exist...

it's why genetic engineering has already begun....

like I previously stated, go for it.....it will be fail all day and the eighth one....

In macro? The best way will be through generations. Take a look at the views our parents had and how backwards it seems. Someone has to make noise so the kids will look at their parents and see them as the dinosaurs they are and reject their ideas. People in our country are entirely too opinionated and in love with their own opinions to expect them to change in micro. And when you're talking about everyday interactions of people with people there is no macro solution. Fixing economic issues will make people more comfortable and thus quieter but it's not fixing these issues.

which is why this will never solve anything....it's just another phase in time

People die, times change. People in the 50's-60's I'm sure were convinced the civil rights movement wouldn't change anything either. That was their opinion. They were wrong.

don't go there....you're deflecting at this point....and I'll just change the channel like white flight....capiche?

ref: NoFunLeague viewership numbers....

wtfe....the majority of all races are sick of listening to the bs....if you don't understand that??? well, you're screwed too....

No this is deflecting:

(09-30-2016 11:05 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-30-2016 10:50 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-30-2016 10:38 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-30-2016 09:33 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-30-2016 09:19 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  In macro? The best way will be through generations. Take a look at the views our parents had and how backwards it seems. Someone has to make noise so the kids will look at their parents and see them as the dinosaurs they are and reject their ideas. People in our country are entirely too opinionated and in love with their own opinions to expect them to change in micro. And when you're talking about everyday interactions of people with people there is no macro solution. Fixing economic issues will make people more comfortable and thus quieter but it's not fixing these issues.

which is why this will never solve anything....it's just another phase in time

People die, times change. People in the 50's-60's I'm sure were convinced the civil rights movement wouldn't change anything either. That was their opinion. They were wrong.

don't go there....you're deflecting at this point....and I'll just change the channel like white flight....capiche?

ref: NoFunLeague viewership numbers....

wtfe....the majority of all races are sick of listening to the bs....if you don't understand that??? well, you're screwed too....

No this is deflecting:

you just nailed your ignance <sic> within the argument

(09-30-2016 02:12 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-30-2016 11:05 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-30-2016 10:50 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-30-2016 10:38 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-30-2016 09:33 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  which is why this will never solve anything....it's just another phase in time

People die, times change. People in the 50's-60's I'm sure were convinced the civil rights movement wouldn't change anything either. That was their opinion. They were wrong.

don't go there....you're deflecting at this point....and I'll just change the channel like white flight....capiche?

ref: NoFunLeague viewership numbers....

wtfe....the majority of all races are sick of listening to the bs....if you don't understand that??? well, you're screwed too....

No this is deflecting:

you just nailed your ignance <sic> within the argument

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mturn017: I heartily agree with your choice of music and your opinion on this subject. Maybe we oughtta pipe in a bunch of CSNY for our brothers and sisters at all CUSA athletic events. I'm not sure if some of the bubbas I went to MT with could cope with all that Old Hippy Stuff but it never hurts to try.

If I was a Jr High, High School, or college coach, I would bring in 3 or 4 experienced police officers (of different races) to talk with (not at) my team, share stories, and to answer questions.