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RE: Ugly ugly weekend for the conference
(09-25-2016 08:38 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  It's only an ugly weekend for people who convinced themselves into thinking the AAC of last year was going to be the norm. Regression to the mean...it was inevitable.

The little island that the AAC occupies in the college football world is closer to the rest of the Group of 5 than it is to the Power 5 continent.

oh plaeez...courtesy of CubanBull. There is a giant gap with the American and the G4.

Overall record
1.SEC 25-7 781
2. BigTen 32-9 780
3. ACC 31-9. 775
4. American 28-12 700
5. PAC 23-10. 697
6. Big12. 16-11. 593
7. MWC 21-21. 500
7. MAC 22-22. 500
9. SBC 13-20. 394
10. CUSA 13-28. 317

Vs P5
1. BigTen 8-4. 667
2. ACC 7-5 583
3. SEC. 5-5. 500
3. PAC. 5-5. 500
5. American 6-11. 353
6. Big12 3-6. 333
7. MAC 4-9. 308
8. MWC 3-11 214
9. SBC. 1-10. 091
10. CUSA. 1-16. 059

Vs FBS only
1. BigTen 26-7. 788
2. SEC 20-7. 741
3. ACC. 20-8. 714
4. PAC 17-9 654
5. American 16-12 571
6. Big12 12-10 546
7. MAC 13-20. 394
8. MWC 10-21. 323
9. SBC 7-19. 269
10. CUSA 4-28. 125

Vs FCS
American 12-0, MWC 11-0, CUSA 9-0, SEC 5-0
ACC 11-1, Big12 7-1, PAC 6-1, SBC 6-1
BigTen 6-2
MAC 9-4
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RE: Ugly ugly weekend for the conference
(09-25-2016 08:38 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  The little island that the AAC occupies in the college football world is closer to the rest of the Group of 5 than it is to the Power 5 continent.

The results of AAC games v rest of P5, the power rankings and relative institutional strength say monumentally otherwise.
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(09-24-2016 11:26 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Solid weekend, I think. Won the games we should have, lost the games we were expected to.
I can't call 0-4 vs P5 solid. I just expect more from USF.

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(09-25-2016 08:38 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  It's only an ugly weekend for people who convinced themselves into thinking the AAC of last year was going to be the norm. Regression to the mean...it was inevitable.

The little island that the AAC occupies in the college football world is closer to the rest of the Group of 5 than it is to the Power 5 continent.

but we are dramatically closer to the p5 than the other g5 this year...and its not close

your point is very bad.... the gap between us and the other g5 is widening
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RE: Ugly ugly weekend for the conference
(09-25-2016 08:57 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-24-2016 11:26 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Solid weekend, I think. Won the games we should have, lost the games we were expected to.
I can't call 0-4 vs P5 solid. I just expect more from USF.

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There isn't a terrible team in the AAC this year. We didn't have a great setup for P5 victories this week, but the league is still good.
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RE: Ugly ugly weekend for the conference
(09-25-2016 08:47 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(09-25-2016 08:38 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  It's only an ugly weekend for people who convinced themselves into thinking the AAC of last year was going to be the norm. Regression to the mean...it was inevitable.

The little island that the AAC occupies in the college football world is closer to the rest of the Group of 5 than it is to the Power 5 continent.

oh plaeez...courtesy of CubanBull. There is a giant gap with the American and the G4.

Overall record
1.SEC 25-7 781
2. BigTen 32-9 780
3. ACC 31-9. 775
4. American 28-12 700
5. PAC 23-10. 697
6. Big12. 16-11. 593
7. MWC 21-21. 500
7. MAC 22-22. 500
9. SBC 13-20. 394
10. CUSA 13-28. 317

Vs P5
1. BigTen 8-4. 667
2. ACC 7-5 583
3. SEC. 5-5. 500
3. PAC. 5-5. 500
5. American 6-11. 353
6. Big12 3-6. 333
7. MAC 4-9. 308
8. MWC 3-11 214
9. SBC. 1-10. 091
10. CUSA. 1-16. 059

Vs FBS only
1. BigTen 26-7. 788
2. SEC 20-7. 741
3. ACC. 20-8. 714
4. PAC 17-9 654
5. American 16-12 571
6. Big12 12-10 546
7. MAC 13-20. 394
8. MWC 10-21. 323
9. SBC 7-19. 269
10. CUSA 4-28. 125

Vs FCS
American 12-0, MWC 11-0, CUSA 9-0, SEC 5-0
ACC 11-1, Big12 7-1, PAC 6-1, SBC 6-1
BigTen 6-2
MAC 9-4

Rankings based strictly on records are garbage. Remember when the AAC went winless in bowls against "G4" teams last year? That doesn't mean anything. Heck the Sun Belt was 2-1 against G5 conference champions last year.

The AAC sans Houston has beaten Kansas, Syracuse, Virginia, Purdue, and NC State. Will any of those teams even make a bowl game? Maybe NC State? The only garbage Power 5 teams the Sun Belt has played was Miss State (South Alabama beat them) and Kentucky (played a SBC team that will finish near the bottom in the conference). The other Power 5 games are Clemson, Auburn, Tennessee, Miami, Oklahoma, Wisconsin, and Arkansas. No comparison at all. And no, not trying to compare the AAC and the SBC, just making an example of why records are not everything.

The Massey composite shows a pretty solid gulf between the P5 and the AAC BTW, and having a top 5 team is undoubtedly skewing it.
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RE: Ugly ugly weekend for the conference
(09-25-2016 09:23 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(09-25-2016 08:47 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(09-25-2016 08:38 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  It's only an ugly weekend for people who convinced themselves into thinking the AAC of last year was going to be the norm. Regression to the mean...it was inevitable.

The little island that the AAC occupies in the college football world is closer to the rest of the Group of 5 than it is to the Power 5 continent.

oh plaeez...courtesy of CubanBull. There is a giant gap with the American and the G4.

Overall record
1.SEC 25-7 781
2. BigTen 32-9 780
3. ACC 31-9. 775
4. American 28-12 700
5. PAC 23-10. 697
6. Big12. 16-11. 593
7. MWC 21-21. 500
7. MAC 22-22. 500
9. SBC 13-20. 394
10. CUSA 13-28. 317

Vs P5
1. BigTen 8-4. 667
2. ACC 7-5 583
3. SEC. 5-5. 500
3. PAC. 5-5. 500
5. American 6-11. 353
6. Big12 3-6. 333
7. MAC 4-9. 308
8. MWC 3-11 214
9. SBC. 1-10. 091
10. CUSA. 1-16. 059

Vs FBS only
1. BigTen 26-7. 788
2. SEC 20-7. 741
3. ACC. 20-8. 714
4. PAC 17-9 654
5. American 16-12 571
6. Big12 12-10 546
7. MAC 13-20. 394
8. MWC 10-21. 323
9. SBC 7-19. 269
10. CUSA 4-28. 125

Vs FCS
American 12-0, MWC 11-0, CUSA 9-0, SEC 5-0
ACC 11-1, Big12 7-1, PAC 6-1, SBC 6-1
BigTen 6-2
MAC 9-4

Rankings based strictly on records are garbage. Remember when the AAC went winless in bowls against "G4" teams last year? That doesn't mean anything. Heck the Sun Belt was 2-1 against G5 conference champions last year.

The AAC sans Houston has beaten Kansas, Syracuse, Virginia, Purdue, and NC State. Will any of those teams even make a bowl game? Maybe NC State? The only garbage Power 5 teams the Sun Belt has played was Miss State (South Alabama beat them) and Kentucky (played a SBC team that will finish near the bottom in the conference). The other Power 5 games are Clemson, Auburn, Tennessee, Miami, Oklahoma, Wisconsin, and Arkansas. No comparison at all. And no, not trying to compare the AAC and the SBC, just making an example of why records are not everything.

The Massey composite shows a pretty solid gulf between the P5 and the AAC BTW, and having a top 5 team is undoubtedly skewing it.

what are you talking about...we traded c-usa trolls who twist facts for sunbelt trolls who twist facts

massey which yo are referencing CLEARY has AAC way closer to the p5 than the other g4

sagarins has a 3 point gap between the AAC and the p5 and a 5 point gap between us and the next g4 (mwc)

this is the ridiculousness of your post..you are saying we are closer to the g5 than the p5...and using evidence like look at this gap between the AAC and p5, (without referencing the gap of the AAC to the next g5)

you are a troll with that logic..your point is manipulative
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RE: Ugly ugly weekend for the conference
Massey


Southeastern 36.98
Pac 12 40.08
Atlantic Coast 44.33
Big 10 48.31
Big 12 48.32
American Athletic 61.94 13.62 away from P5/ 24.17 away from G4.
Mountain West 86.11
Mid-American 87.10
Sun Belt 95.03
Conference USA 101.34


By the definition we are closer to the P5 than the G4.
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(09-25-2016 08:38 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  It's only an ugly weekend for people who convinced themselves into thinking the AAC of last year was going to be the norm. Regression to the mean...it was inevitable.

The little island that the AAC occupies in the college football world is closer to the rest of the Group of 5 than it is to the Power 5 continent.

You got all that from this weekend?

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(09-25-2016 09:33 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(09-25-2016 09:23 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(09-25-2016 08:47 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(09-25-2016 08:38 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  It's only an ugly weekend for people who convinced themselves into thinking the AAC of last year was going to be the norm. Regression to the mean...it was inevitable.

The little island that the AAC occupies in the college football world is closer to the rest of the Group of 5 than it is to the Power 5 continent.

oh plaeez...courtesy of CubanBull. There is a giant gap with the American and the G4.

Overall record
1.SEC 25-7 781
2. BigTen 32-9 780
3. ACC 31-9. 775
4. American 28-12 700
5. PAC 23-10. 697
6. Big12. 16-11. 593
7. MWC 21-21. 500
7. MAC 22-22. 500
9. SBC 13-20. 394
10. CUSA 13-28. 317

Vs P5
1. BigTen 8-4. 667
2. ACC 7-5 583
3. SEC. 5-5. 500
3. PAC. 5-5. 500
5. American 6-11. 353
6. Big12 3-6. 333
7. MAC 4-9. 308
8. MWC 3-11 214
9. SBC. 1-10. 091
10. CUSA. 1-16. 059

Vs FBS only
1. BigTen 26-7. 788
2. SEC 20-7. 741
3. ACC. 20-8. 714
4. PAC 17-9 654
5. American 16-12 571
6. Big12 12-10 546
7. MAC 13-20. 394
8. MWC 10-21. 323
9. SBC 7-19. 269
10. CUSA 4-28. 125

Vs FCS
American 12-0, MWC 11-0, CUSA 9-0, SEC 5-0
ACC 11-1, Big12 7-1, PAC 6-1, SBC 6-1
BigTen 6-2
MAC 9-4

Rankings based strictly on records are garbage. Remember when the AAC went winless in bowls against "G4" teams last year? That doesn't mean anything. Heck the Sun Belt was 2-1 against G5 conference champions last year.

The AAC sans Houston has beaten Kansas, Syracuse, Virginia, Purdue, and NC State. Will any of those teams even make a bowl game? Maybe NC State? The only garbage Power 5 teams the Sun Belt has played was Miss State (South Alabama beat them) and Kentucky (played a SBC team that will finish near the bottom in the conference). The other Power 5 games are Clemson, Auburn, Tennessee, Miami, Oklahoma, Wisconsin, and Arkansas. No comparison at all. And no, not trying to compare the AAC and the SBC, just making an example of why records are not everything.

The Massey composite shows a pretty solid gulf between the P5 and the AAC BTW, and having a top 5 team is undoubtedly skewing it.

what are you talking about...we traded c-usa trolls who twist facts for sunbelt trolls who twist facts

massey which yo are referencing CLEARY has AAC way closer to the p5 than the other g4

sagarins has a 3 point gap between the AAC and the p5 and a 5 point gap between us and the next g4 (mwc)

this is the ridiculousness of your post..you are saying we are closer to the g5 than the p5...and using evidence like look at this gap between the AAC and p5, (without referencing the gap of the AAC to the next g5)

you are a troll with that logic..your point is manipulative

My favorite quote of his, "Rankings based strictly on records are garbage." I guess participation trophies were his thing growing up.
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RE: Ugly ugly weekend for the conference
(09-25-2016 09:23 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(09-25-2016 08:47 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(09-25-2016 08:38 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  It's only an ugly weekend for people who convinced themselves into thinking the AAC of last year was going to be the norm. Regression to the mean...it was inevitable.

The little island that the AAC occupies in the college football world is closer to the rest of the Group of 5 than it is to the Power 5 continent.

oh plaeez...courtesy of CubanBull. There is a giant gap with the American and the G4.

Overall record
1.SEC 25-7 781
2. BigTen 32-9 780
3. ACC 31-9. 775
4. American 28-12 700
5. PAC 23-10. 697
6. Big12. 16-11. 593
7. MWC 21-21. 500
7. MAC 22-22. 500
9. SBC 13-20. 394
10. CUSA 13-28. 317

Vs P5
1. BigTen 8-4. 667
2. ACC 7-5 583
3. SEC. 5-5. 500
3. PAC. 5-5. 500
5. American 6-11. 353
6. Big12 3-6. 333
7. MAC 4-9. 308
8. MWC 3-11 214
9. SBC. 1-10. 091
10. CUSA. 1-16. 059

Vs FBS only
1. BigTen 26-7. 788
2. SEC 20-7. 741
3. ACC. 20-8. 714
4. PAC 17-9 654
5. American 16-12 571
6. Big12 12-10 546
7. MAC 13-20. 394
8. MWC 10-21. 323
9. SBC 7-19. 269
10. CUSA 4-28. 125

Vs FCS
American 12-0, MWC 11-0, CUSA 9-0, SEC 5-0
ACC 11-1, Big12 7-1, PAC 6-1, SBC 6-1
BigTen 6-2
MAC 9-4

Rankings based strictly on records are garbage. Remember when the AAC went winless in bowls against "G4" teams last year? That doesn't mean anything. Heck the Sun Belt was 2-1 against G5 conference champions last year.

The AAC sans Houston has beaten Kansas, Syracuse, Virginia, Purdue, and NC State. Will any of those teams even make a bowl game? Maybe NC State? The only garbage Power 5 teams the Sun Belt has played was Miss State (South Alabama beat them) and Kentucky (played a SBC team that will finish near the bottom in the conference). The other Power 5 games are Clemson, Auburn, Tennessee, Miami, Oklahoma, Wisconsin, and Arkansas. No comparison at all. And no, not trying to compare the AAC and the SBC, just making an example of why records are not everything.

The Massey composite shows a pretty solid gulf between the P5 and the AAC BTW, and having a top 5 team is undoubtedly skewing it.

Head to head results would tend to indicate a pretty significant gulf. The AAC is a straight up 10-0 vs the other G5 conferences. Last night one of the best Sunbelt teams lost to one of the worst AAC teams. Yeah, it was a really close game, but it says something when the top of one conference fails to beat the bottom of another. The "we are all the same" argument starts to fall flat at that point. Not to mention, there have been some pretty ugly blow outs in that 10-0 number.
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AAC clearly has more non-conf P5 wins than those in the SEC, Pac-12 and Big 12. 04-cheers

Vs P5
1. BigTen 8-4. 667
2. ACC 7-5 583
3. SEC 5-5. 500
3. PAC-12 5-5. 500
5. AAC 6-11. 353
6. Big12 3-6. 333

7. MAC 4-9. 308
8. MWC 3-11 214
9. SBC 1-10. 091
10. CUSA. 1-16. 059
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(09-25-2016 10:06 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Head to head results would tend to indicate a pretty significant gulf. The AAC is a straight up 10-0 vs the other G5 conferences. Last night one of the best Sunbelt teams lost to one of the worst AAC teams. Yeah, it was a really close game, but it says something when the top of one conference fails to beat the bottom of another. The "we are all the same" argument starts to fall flat at that point. Not to mention, there have been some pretty ugly blow outs in that 10-0 number.

Again, you're looking at W/L record with no context. Who all have you beaten? An awful FIU team? A NIU team that lost to Wyoming? A Texas State team in the lower half of the SBC? An unusually bad Bowling Green team? A 7-point win over Miami Ohio?

The main difference between the AAC and the rest of the G5 is (1) the AAC has Houston, a legit top 10, and (2) the bottom of the conference is definitely strong than the other leagues.

The fact that some people were thinking a USF win over Florida State should've been expected have an entirely overly inflated opinion of this conference.
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(09-25-2016 10:38 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(09-25-2016 10:06 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Head to head results would tend to indicate a pretty significant gulf. The AAC is a straight up 10-0 vs the other G5 conferences. Last night one of the best Sunbelt teams lost to one of the worst AAC teams. Yeah, it was a really close game, but it says something when the top of one conference fails to beat the bottom of another. The "we are all the same" argument starts to fall flat at that point. Not to mention, there have been some pretty ugly blow outs in that 10-0 number.

Again, you're looking at W/L record with no context. Who all have you beaten? An awful FIU team? A NIU team that lost to Wyoming? A Texas State team in the lower half of the SBC? An unusually bad Bowling Green team? A 7-point win over Miami Ohio?

The main difference between the AAC and the rest of the G5 is (1) the AAC has Houston, a legit top 10, and (2) the bottom of the conference is definitely strong than the other leagues.

The fact that some people were thinking a USF win over Florida State should've been expected have an entirely overly inflated opinion of this conference.

context?

every computer agrees with us.. 100%, they add context

and and go back to the prediction thread...or any pregame thread..almost everyone as like fsu will come in mad trying to make a statement..
"expected" is a strong word, no one expected usf to win...but yes we felt USF could have won, they had crushed everyone to date and FSU had just been destroyed by a team with similar style of play..

your points are all stupid and manipulative.. reek of jealousy..we get it your conference sucks and it makes you feel better to say that better conference is the same as you
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You quoted Massey and it clearly shows the huge gap which is larger than the p5 gap. You downplay the wins but guess what? That SOS is part of the ranking. End of discussion.

Sunbelt is doing fine and as a matter of a fact is better than the c-usa. Let's not get overboard and say we are all the same. Go look at attendance, revenue, recruiting, etc if you want to see more gaps.
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RE: Ugly ugly weekend for the conference
(09-25-2016 10:38 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(09-25-2016 10:06 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Head to head results would tend to indicate a pretty significant gulf. The AAC is a straight up 10-0 vs the other G5 conferences. Last night one of the best Sunbelt teams lost to one of the worst AAC teams. Yeah, it was a really close game, but it says something when the top of one conference fails to beat the bottom of another. The "we are all the same" argument starts to fall flat at that point. Not to mention, there have been some pretty ugly blow outs in that 10-0 number.

Again, you're looking at W/L record with no context. Who all have you beaten? An awful FIU team? A NIU team that lost to Wyoming? A Texas State team in the lower half of the SBC? An unusually bad Bowling Green team? A 7-point win over Miami Ohio?

The main difference between the AAC and the rest of the G5 is (1) the AAC has Houston, a legit top 10, and (2) the bottom of the conference is definitely strong than the other leagues.

The fact that some people were thinking a USF win over Florida State should've been expected have an entirely overly inflated opinion of this conference.


Nobody knows who we have beaten. Most schools have only played 3-4 games---many of which are FCS games or body bag games vs the P5. Let's see how our opponents do in conference before dismissing them as crap. That said, it's not like we put our champion vs the dregs of the rest of the G5. The bottom teams in our conference played G5's and won as well (that's why an undefeated record vs the rest of the G5 conferences is pretty telling).

Frankly, while Houston helps, it isn't the REAL difference. The REAL difference is the AAC is fairly solid top to bottom. There isn't really a complete dumpster fire in the AAC. It's week 4 and the AAC doesn't have a single team under .500.

I wouldn't be surprised if the overall conference is better this year than it was last year---but ends up with fewer ranked teams. This is why athletic budgets are important. It has allowed the overall level of coaching in the league to improve significantly, which has quickly improved the bottom of the conference,
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RE: Ugly ugly weekend for the conference
(09-25-2016 11:25 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Nobody knows who we have beaten. Most schools have only played 3-4 games---many of which are FCS games or body bag games vs the P5. Let's see how our opponents do in conference before dismissing them as crap. That said, it's not like we put our champion vs the dregs of the rest of the G5. The bottom teams in our conference played G5's and won as well (that's why an undefeated record vs the rest of the G5 conferences is pretty telling).

Frankly, while Houston helps, it isn't the REAL difference. The REAL difference is the AAC is fairly solid top to bottom. There isn't really a complete dumpster fire in the AAC. It's week 4 and the AAC doesn't have a single team under .500.

I wouldn't be surprised if the overall conference is better this year than it was last year---but ends up with fewer ranked teams. This is why athletic budgets are important. It has allowed the overall level of coaching in the league to improve significantly, which has quickly improved the bottom of the conference,

I agree with this. Not a single team outside the top 100 and that is what separates the AAC from all of the other non-power conferences. And more top 50s than any other league as well.

All I'm saying here is that anyone who was overly disappointed in this weekend just doesn't have a realistic image of what this conference really is. There is certainly not anything to suggest this isn't the best non-power league yet.
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RE: Ugly ugly weekend for the conference
(09-25-2016 12:33 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(09-25-2016 11:25 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Nobody knows who we have beaten. Most schools have only played 3-4 games---many of which are FCS games or body bag games vs the P5. Let's see how our opponents do in conference before dismissing them as crap. That said, it's not like we put our champion vs the dregs of the rest of the G5. The bottom teams in our conference played G5's and won as well (that's why an undefeated record vs the rest of the G5 conferences is pretty telling).

Frankly, while Houston helps, it isn't the REAL difference. The REAL difference is the AAC is fairly solid top to bottom. There isn't really a complete dumpster fire in the AAC. It's week 4 and the AAC doesn't have a single team under .500.

I wouldn't be surprised if the overall conference is better this year than it was last year---but ends up with fewer ranked teams. This is why athletic budgets are important. It has allowed the overall level of coaching in the league to improve significantly, which has quickly improved the bottom of the conference,

I agree with this. Not a single team outside the top 100 and that is what separates the AAC from all of the other non-power conferences. And more top 50s than any other league as well.

All I'm saying here is that anyone who was overly disappointed in this weekend just doesn't have a realistic image of what this conference really is. There is certainly not anything to suggest this isn't the best non-power league yet.

I think - as a Georgia Southern fan - you seem conflicted because you couldn't fathom why your coach, Willie Fritz, would leave for Tulane.

Last night, Fritz revealed a gutty Tulane team. They would probably win the Sunbelt this year. I get why that would arouse your ire, Eigen.
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RE: Ugly ugly weekend for the conference
(09-25-2016 12:33 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(09-25-2016 11:25 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Nobody knows who we have beaten. Most schools have only played 3-4 games---many of which are FCS games or body bag games vs the P5. Let's see how our opponents do in conference before dismissing them as crap. That said, it's not like we put our champion vs the dregs of the rest of the G5. The bottom teams in our conference played G5's and won as well (that's why an undefeated record vs the rest of the G5 conferences is pretty telling).

Frankly, while Houston helps, it isn't the REAL difference. The REAL difference is the AAC is fairly solid top to bottom. There isn't really a complete dumpster fire in the AAC. It's week 4 and the AAC doesn't have a single team under .500.

I wouldn't be surprised if the overall conference is better this year than it was last year---but ends up with fewer ranked teams. This is why athletic budgets are important. It has allowed the overall level of coaching in the league to improve significantly, which has quickly improved the bottom of the conference,

I agree with this. Not a single team outside the top 100 and that is what separates the AAC from all of the other non-power conferences. And more top 50s than any other league as well.

All I'm saying here is that anyone who was overly disappointed in this weekend just doesn't have a realistic image of what this conference really is. There is certainly not anything to suggest this isn't the best non-power league yet.

Im not sure what you are seeing as unreasonable expectations. I think there were certainly a couple of winnable games vs the P5 for the AAC this week. I thought UConn had an excellent chance to win. USF was a long shot, but I thought they might catch a Florida State team in disarray---instead it looks like Florida State has righted the ship. The only place we seemed to be really off on was ECU. I thought the Pirates would give them a game, and they were not even remotely competitive.
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