http://denver.cbslocal.com/2016/09/22/cb...-colorado/

Quote:A CBS4 investigation has found multiple cases of dead men and women voting in Colorado months and in some cases years after their deaths, a revelation that calls into question safeguards designed to prevent such occurrences.

“We do believe there were several instances of potential vote fraud that occurred,” said Colorado Secretary of State Wayne Williams after reviewing the CBS4 findings. “It shows there is the potential for fraud.”

The cases of dead men and women casting ballots ranged from El Paso County in southern Colorado to Denver and Jefferson County. CBS4 discovered the fraudulent voting by comparing databases of voting histories in Colorado against a federal death database.

The CBS4 investigation has triggered criminal investigations in El Paso and Jefferson counties along with a broad investigation by the Colorado Secretary of State’s office.

Quote:One of the most glaring cases was that of Sara Sosa in Colorado Springs. She died on Oct. 14, 2009. However, CBS4 uncovered voting records that showed ballots cast for Sosa in 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013. Her husband, Miguel, died on Sept. 26, 2008. But CBS4 unearthed records showing that a vote was cast in his name the next year, 2009.

Quote:Broerman said after their deaths, the Sosas remained on active voter rolls and mail ballots were still sent to their home because they did not meet the criteria to have their names deleted from eligible voter rolls.

“Somebody was able to cast a vote that was not theirs to cast,” concluded Broerman.

Quote:Voting officials have now asked the Jefferson County District Attorney to look into another dead voting case discovered by CBS4, that of Nell Cluck.

“Ma” Cluck, as she was known, died Feb. 1, 2009. However, nine months later Cluck managed to vote in an election.

Quote:Then there’s John Grosso of Denver, a father, grandfather and World War II veteran who died Dec. 13, 2004. Records show though that Grosso then voted at a polling place two years later, in a 2006 primary election.

Quote:Administrators with the Secretary of State’s Office believe Grosso’s vote may have been an error by an election judge.

But the broader question is why Grosso — and dozens of others — were still listed as active voters months and sometimes years after their deaths. State voting officials say they can only delete names from voting rolls if a number of precise criteria from death databases are met: names must be spelled precisely right, dates of birth must be correct and addresses must match. They say in many cases minor errors on the voter rolls or death databases leave election officials no choice but to leave dead people registered, leading to potential fraud and mistaken votes.

Out of approximately 2 million votes cast in Colorado’s last election cycle, 8,000 ballots were not counted when signatures did not match. The importance of finding and weeding out fraudulent votes is underlined by the 2002 election in Colorado’s 7th Congressional district. That race was decided by 121 votes out of more than 175,000 that were cast. In Ohio in 2010, a tax measure passed by just two votes.

But I thought the leftists on here said this didn't happen....


Oh and I bet that despite them crying about voters being disenfranchised doesn't extend to the people who was essentially disenfranchised when a fraudulent vote went on the rolls and cancelled theirs out.

I skimmed this, but your examples are mail ballots and one case of in person fraud that is believed to be a poll worker error. So yeah, voter id would do nothing to stop this.

(09-23-2016 08:59 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  I skimmed this, but your examples are mail ballots and one case of in person fraud that is believed to be a poll worker error. So yeah, voter id would do nothing to stop this.

Which party is pushing for vote by mail?

(09-23-2016 09:01 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-23-2016 08:59 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  I skimmed this, but your examples are mail ballots and one case of in person fraud that is believed to be a poll worker error. So yeah, voter id would do nothing to stop this.

Which party is pushing for vote by mail?

I don't know about other states, but republicans use mail ballots at a much higher rate in NC than democrats.

(09-23-2016 09:04 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  

(09-23-2016 09:01 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-23-2016 08:59 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  I skimmed this, but your examples are mail ballots and one case of in person fraud that is believed to be a poll worker error. So yeah, voter id would do nothing to stop this.

Which party is pushing for vote by mail?

I don't know about other states, but republicans use mail ballots at a much higher rate in NC than democrats.

That wasn't the question. Who wants to allow mail voting? What about internet voting? What could possibly go wrong?

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ER: the wave of voter suppression laws encouraged by the GOP have ignored mail in ballots because republican voters are more likely to use it than democratic voters.

(09-23-2016 09:44 PM)john01992 Wrote:  ER: the wave of voter suppression laws encouraged by the GOP have ignored mail in ballots because republican voters are more likely to use it than democratic voters.

Mail in ballots, internet voting, early voting. All that schit has to end. You show up on Election Day with your ID and you vote. Only exception is absentee for a good reason.

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But I could have swore that the left said that this doesn't happen...


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(09-23-2016 10:02 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(09-23-2016 09:44 PM)john01992 Wrote:  ER: the wave of voter suppression laws encouraged by the GOP have ignored mail in ballots because republican voters are more likely to use it than democratic voters.

Mail in ballots, internet voting, early voting. All that schit has to end. You show up on Election Day with your ID and you vote. Only exception is absentee for a good reason.

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Texas has asked the SC to listen to their argument concerning voter IDs. In itself I would say that that's a good idea but on the other hand we have a crooked SC as of now. So I don't think it's gonna go anywhere positive for Texas.

Voter fraud is a myth! Gosh! I wish people would quit being so necrophobic! Denying dead people's rights is racist! It's a life/death choice!

Why you want to disenfranchise the dead vote?

(09-23-2016 08:55 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  http://denver.cbslocal.com/2016/09/22/cb...-colorado/

Quote:A CBS4 investigation has found multiple cases of dead men and women voting in Colorado months and in some cases years after their deaths, a revelation that calls into question safeguards designed to prevent such occurrences.

“We do believe there were several instances of potential vote fraud that occurred,” said Colorado Secretary of State Wayne Williams after reviewing the CBS4 findings. “It shows there is the potential for fraud.”

The cases of dead men and women casting ballots ranged from El Paso County in southern Colorado to Denver and Jefferson County. CBS4 discovered the fraudulent voting by comparing databases of voting histories in Colorado against a federal death database.

The CBS4 investigation has triggered criminal investigations in El Paso and Jefferson counties along with a broad investigation by the Colorado Secretary of State’s office.

Quote:One of the most glaring cases was that of Sara Sosa in Colorado Springs. She died on Oct. 14, 2009. However, CBS4 uncovered voting records that showed ballots cast for Sosa in 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013. Her husband, Miguel, died on Sept. 26, 2008. But CBS4 unearthed records showing that a vote was cast in his name the next year, 2009.

Quote:Broerman said after their deaths, the Sosas remained on active voter rolls and mail ballots were still sent to their home because they did not meet the criteria to have their names deleted from eligible voter rolls.

“Somebody was able to cast a vote that was not theirs to cast,” concluded Broerman.

Quote:Voting officials have now asked the Jefferson County District Attorney to look into another dead voting case discovered by CBS4, that of Nell Cluck.

“Ma” Cluck, as she was known, died Feb. 1, 2009. However, nine months later Cluck managed to vote in an election.

Quote:Then there’s John Grosso of Denver, a father, grandfather and World War II veteran who died Dec. 13, 2004. Records show though that Grosso then voted at a polling place two years later, in a 2006 primary election.

Quote:Administrators with the Secretary of State’s Office believe Grosso’s vote may have been an error by an election judge.

But the broader question is why Grosso — and dozens of others — were still listed as active voters months and sometimes years after their deaths. State voting officials say they can only delete names from voting rolls if a number of precise criteria from death databases are met: names must be spelled precisely right, dates of birth must be correct and addresses must match. They say in many cases minor errors on the voter rolls or death databases leave election officials no choice but to leave dead people registered, leading to potential fraud and mistaken votes.

Out of approximately 2 million votes cast in Colorado’s last election cycle, 8,000 ballots were not counted when signatures did not match. The importance of finding and weeding out fraudulent votes is underlined by the 2002 election in Colorado’s 7th Congressional district. That race was decided by 121 votes out of more than 175,000 that were cast. In Ohio in 2010, a tax measure passed by just two votes.

But I thought the leftists on here said this didn't happen....


Oh and I bet that despite them crying about voters being disenfranchised doesn't extend to the people who was essentially disenfranchised when a fraudulent vote went on the rolls and cancelled theirs out.

Clearly this is a sign of the apocolypse.

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