georgia_tech_swagger
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Just let her kill herself.
This is as close as could be imagined to a total political failure. From all sides. The most humane outcome is to slip her a cyanide pill.
http://reason.com/blog/2016/09/23/chelse...ry-over-su
Quote:Chelsea Manning Sent to Solitary over Suicide Attempt
That seems counterproductive.
Chelsea Manning, in military prison for releasing classified military documents to Wikileaks while serving in Iraq, will be sent to solitary confinement partly due to a July suicide attempt.
Manning attempted to kill herself in her cell in July. In response to her failed attempt, she faced additional administrative punishment, including solitary confinement, transfer to a more secure prison, and the elimination of any possibility for parole.
Today a disciplinary board decided to punish Manning with 14 days in solitary confinement, seven of which will be suspended.
Of the charges, she was acquitted of one: "Resisting the Force Cell Move Team." This was a strange bureaucratic accusation that potentially punishes a prisoner for anything that requires this team to be called to remove somebody from a prison cell, regardless of the reason. She was found guilty of "Conduct Which Threatens" because her suicide attempt disrupted the orderly operations of the prison. She was also found guilty of having an unauthorized book, Hacker, Hoaxer, Whistleblower, Spy, about the activists of Anonymous, in her cell.
One does not have to believe that Manning was innocent and one does not have to support the legitimacy of Manning's transgender identity to be concerned about the use of solitary confinement as a form of punishment for somebody who clearly acted out due to mental health issues and frustrations. If Manning were a less polarizing figure and had been diagnosed with something much less culturally controversial like bipolar disorder, it would be very easy to grasp that isolating somebody who had attempted suicide is an absurd response for a prison.
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RE: Just let her kill herself.
This isn't that talk show host?
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09-23-2016 03:15 PM |
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HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine
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RE: Just let her kill herself.
The UN Torture Chief says that it (what exact identity do it want?) treatment was inhumane.
There is a Torture Chief. Another dubious use of tax money.
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09-23-2016 03:22 PM |
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QuestionSocratic
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RE: Just let her kill herself.
(09-23-2016 03:22 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote: The UN Torture Chief says that it (what exact identity do it want?) treatment was inhumane.
There is a Torture Chief. Another dubious use of tax money.
The UN is the biggest ****** sham of any NGO currently active; and that is saying quite a bit.
During their last session in 2015, they passed 20 resolutions condemning Israel and 3 condemning all of the other countries.
We piss away $600 million* a year supporting this sh*t hole. Time to turn off the spigot.
*That doesn't include the $16 million in unpaid parking tickets owed to NYC.
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Kaplony
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RE: Just let her kill herself.
One of my deputy friends used to work as a guard at the old CCI in Columbia while he was going to South Carolina for his criminal justice degree. He was working Death Row one night when they found one of the inmates in the process of trying to hang himself. By policy they rescued him and he was assigned to protective custody. Less than six months later he rode Ol' Sparky.
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09-23-2016 05:35 PM |
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HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine
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RE: Just let her kill herself.
(09-23-2016 05:35 PM)Kaplony Wrote: One of my deputy friends used to work as a guard at the old CCI in Columbia while he was going to South Carolina for his criminal justice degree. He was working Death Row one night when they found one of the inmates in the process of trying to hang himself. By policy they rescued him and he was assigned to protective custody. Less than six months later he rode Ol' Sparky.
"Tonight I ride the lightning to my final judgment day."
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09-23-2016 06:59 PM |
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DFWMINER
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RE: Just let her kill herself.
And yet Hillary walks free after having far more material available through her actions.
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09-23-2016 07:33 PM |
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RE: Just let her kill herself.
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RE: Just let her kill herself.
(09-23-2016 03:05 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote: This is as close as could be imagined to a total political failure. From all sides. The most humane outcome is to slip her a cyanide pill.
http://reason.com/blog/2016/09/23/chelse...ry-over-su
Quote:Chelsea Manning Sent to Solitary over Suicide Attempt
That seems counterproductive.
Chelsea Manning, in military prison for releasing classified military documents to Wikileaks while serving in Iraq, will be sent to solitary confinement partly due to a July suicide attempt.
Manning attempted to kill herself in her cell in July. In response to her failed attempt, she faced additional administrative punishment, including solitary confinement, transfer to a more secure prison, and the elimination of any possibility for parole.
Today a disciplinary board decided to punish Manning with 14 days in solitary confinement, seven of which will be suspended.
Of the charges, she was acquitted of one: "Resisting the Force Cell Move Team." This was a strange bureaucratic accusation that potentially punishes a prisoner for anything that requires this team to be called to remove somebody from a prison cell, regardless of the reason. She was found guilty of "Conduct Which Threatens" because her suicide attempt disrupted the orderly operations of the prison. She was also found guilty of having an unauthorized book, Hacker, Hoaxer, Whistleblower, Spy, about the activists of Anonymous, in her cell.
One does not have to believe that Manning was innocent and one does not have to support the legitimacy of Manning's transgender identity to be concerned about the use of solitary confinement as a form of punishment for somebody who clearly acted out due to mental health issues and frustrations. If Manning were a less polarizing figure and had been diagnosed with something much less culturally controversial like bipolar disorder, it would be very easy to grasp that isolating somebody who had attempted suicide is an absurd response for a prison.
You lost me at "her". He still has the bait and tackle.
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09-24-2016 09:43 AM |
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HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine
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RE: Just let her kill herself.
(09-23-2016 05:30 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote: (09-23-2016 03:22 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote: The UN Torture Chief says that it (what exact identity do it want?) treatment was inhumane.
There is a Torture Chief. Another dubious use of tax money.
The UN is the biggest ****** sham of any NGO currently active; and that is saying quite a bit.
During their last session in 2015, they passed 20 resolutions condemning Israel and 3 condemning all of the other countries.
We piss away $600 million* a year supporting this sh*t hole. Time to turn off the spigot.
*That doesn't include the $16 million in unpaid parking tickets owed to NYC.
You are speaking to the choir. I firmly believe in kicking out the UN and leaving it.
Another one of FDR's legacies.
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09-24-2016 10:04 AM |
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