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RE: Joel Nielsen Contract
(10-17-2016 12:39 PM)GFlash68 Wrote:  
(10-17-2016 11:42 AM)KSU93 Wrote:  Joel has always slighted the other sports for football. It will be interesting on the tape allegations and potential cover up. We need a new administration to push these programs onto the next level

If this is the case, he is a miserable failure. He has at least watched the FB program go from division champ to a pathetic shadow of a D1 program.

Don't kid yourself, he is the maestro behind how we became division champs in the first place (bringing in TK and hiring Hazell).
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What tape allegations and cover-up? Who is TK?
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(10-17-2016 05:39 PM)Muskrat Wrote:  What tape allegations and cover-up? Who is TK?

I believe he meant rape allegations.....and TK is Tom Kleinlein.
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Sorry I corrected it meant "rape allegations". The Title 9 training that the department has to learn. This can be very serious for him and our university.
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RE: Joel Nielsen Contract
(10-17-2016 12:50 PM)ilovegymnast Wrote:  At the same time he did make the hire that won them the division. So he is sitting at 50% on coaching hires for football.

Just to be clear, the Athletic Director did not make the call to hire Coach Hazell, his Deputy Athletic Director, Tom Kleinlein, did. The Athletic Director hired Coach Haynes. Nielsen looked for help with the decision and went to university staff members who didn't work in athletics.

Additionally, word seems to be spreading around the region that KSU will not be renewing their AD's contract.
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RE: Joel Nielsen Contract
(10-19-2016 10:59 AM)dlFLASH Wrote:  
(10-17-2016 12:50 PM)ilovegymnast Wrote:  At the same time he did make the hire that won them the division. So he is sitting at 50% on coaching hires for football.

Just to be clear, the Athletic Director did not make the call to hire Coach Hazell, his Deputy Athletic Director, Tom Kleinlein, did. The Athletic Director hired Coach Haynes. Nielsen looked for help with the decision and went to university staff members who didn't work in athletics.

Additionally, word seems to be spreading around the region that KSU will not be renewing their AD's contract.

Just to be clear, Joel brought TK here and any hire under his direction is his hire. That's just the way it is.
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(10-19-2016 08:08 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  
(10-19-2016 10:59 AM)dlFLASH Wrote:  
(10-17-2016 12:50 PM)ilovegymnast Wrote:  At the same time he did make the hire that won them the division. So he is sitting at 50% on coaching hires for football.

Just to be clear, the Athletic Director did not make the call to hire Coach Hazell, his Deputy Athletic Director, Tom Kleinlein, did. The Athletic Director hired Coach Haynes. Nielsen looked for help with the decision and went to university staff members who didn't work in athletics.

Additionally, word seems to be spreading around the region that KSU will not be renewing their AD's contract.

Just to be clear, Joel brought TK here and any hire under his direction is his hire. That's just the way it is.

If somebody disputed that "Joel brought TK here" I failed to read that. I attempted to clear up an inaccuracy with facts. Another fact is that Kleinlein spoke up about hiring Hazell for countless reasons he personally saw in the man during the interview process not displayed by the other candidates which was very influential in the decision making process. If you want to give that credit to Nielsen then I don't see eye to eye with you. If you want to credit the AD for making the hire of his Deputy AD who successful picked a football coach then I'd agree with that.

Another fact is that Kleinlein wasn't supposed to start at Georgia Southern until after the bowl game however an unexpected turn occurred when an apparent rift between the two resulted in Kleinlein leaving a month earlier. During that month is when Haynes was hired.
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(10-19-2016 10:25 PM)dlFLASH Wrote:  
(10-19-2016 08:08 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  
(10-19-2016 10:59 AM)dlFLASH Wrote:  
(10-17-2016 12:50 PM)ilovegymnast Wrote:  At the same time he did make the hire that won them the division. So he is sitting at 50% on coaching hires for football.

Just to be clear, the Athletic Director did not make the call to hire Coach Hazell, his Deputy Athletic Director, Tom Kleinlein, did. The Athletic Director hired Coach Haynes. Nielsen looked for help with the decision and went to university staff members who didn't work in athletics.

Additionally, word seems to be spreading around the region that KSU will not be renewing their AD's contract.

Just to be clear, Joel brought TK here and any hire under his direction is his hire. That's just the way it is.

If somebody disputed that "Joel brought TK here" I failed to read that. I attempted to clear up an inaccuracy with facts. Another fact is that Kleinlein spoke up about hiring Hazell for countless reasons he personally saw in the man during the interview process not displayed by the other candidates which was very influential in the decision making process. If you want to give that credit to Nielsen then I don't see eye to eye with you. If you want to credit the AD for making the hire of his Deputy AD who successful picked a football coach then I'd agree with that.

Another fact is that Kleinlein wasn't supposed to start at Georgia Southern until after the bowl game however an unexpected turn occurred when an apparent rift between the two resulted in Kleinlein leaving a month earlier. During that month is when Haynes was hired.

The bottom line is the AD runs his department. Regardless of who is on his staff, who approves or disapproves, everything that happens while one is in "office" is his hire. If it's good or disastrously bad, it's on him. Because that is how they are judged. Would it matter if TK were still at KSU when Haynes was hired? We would still be judging Joel on that hire because he is the AD. The president has final say and nobody is blaming her. It's always on the AD.
10-20-2016 08:25 AM
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RE: Joel Nielsen Contract
(10-20-2016 08:25 AM)dannyb73 Wrote:  
(10-19-2016 10:25 PM)dlFLASH Wrote:  
(10-19-2016 08:08 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  
(10-19-2016 10:59 AM)dlFLASH Wrote:  
(10-17-2016 12:50 PM)ilovegymnast Wrote:  At the same time he did make the hire that won them the division. So he is sitting at 50% on coaching hires for football.

Just to be clear, the Athletic Director did not make the call to hire Coach Hazell, his Deputy Athletic Director, Tom Kleinlein, did. The Athletic Director hired Coach Haynes. Nielsen looked for help with the decision and went to university staff members who didn't work in athletics.

Additionally, word seems to be spreading around the region that KSU will not be renewing their AD's contract.

Just to be clear, Joel brought TK here and any hire under his direction is his hire. That's just the way it is.

If somebody disputed that "Joel brought TK here" I failed to read that. I attempted to clear up an inaccuracy with facts. Another fact is that Kleinlein spoke up about hiring Hazell for countless reasons he personally saw in the man during the interview process not displayed by the other candidates which was very influential in the decision making process. If you want to give that credit to Nielsen then I don't see eye to eye with you. If you want to credit the AD for making the hire of his Deputy AD who successful picked a football coach then I'd agree with that.

Another fact is that Kleinlein wasn't supposed to start at Georgia Southern until after the bowl game however an unexpected turn occurred when an apparent rift between the two resulted in Kleinlein leaving a month earlier. During that month is when Haynes was hired.

The bottom line is the AD runs his department. Regardless of who is on his staff, who approves or disapproves, everything that happens while one is in "office" is his hire. If it's good or disastrously bad, it's on him. Because that is how they are judged. Would it matter if TK were still at KSU when Haynes was hired? We would still be judging Joel on that hire because he is the AD. The president has final say and nobody is blaming her. It's always on the AD.

So is TK a replacement for us or is Ga Southern viewed as a better job?
10-20-2016 09:31 AM
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(10-19-2016 10:59 AM)dlFLASH Wrote:  
(10-17-2016 12:50 PM)ilovegymnast Wrote:  At the same time he did make the hire that won them the division. So he is sitting at 50% on coaching hires for football.

Just to be clear, the Athletic Director did not make the call to hire Coach Hazell, his Deputy Athletic Director, Tom Kleinlein, did. The Athletic Director hired Coach Haynes. Nielsen looked for help with the decision and went to university staff members who didn't work in athletics.

Additionally, word seems to be spreading around the region that KSU will not be renewing their AD's contract.

From what I have heard about Joel, the rumors on non-renewal sounds like great news!
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