Overall Record
1.BigTen 30-8, .789
2. SEC 21-7, .750
3. American 21-8, .724
4. ACC and PAC 23-9, .719
6. Big 12. 15-11, .577
7. MWC 20-15, .571
8. MAC 18-17, .514
9. SBC 10-16, .385
10. CUSA 13-23, .361

Vs FBS only
1. BigTen 24-6, .800
2. SEC 17-7, .708
3. PAC 17-8, .680
4. ACC 12-8, .600
5. American 9-8, .529
6. Big 12 9-10, .474
7. MAC 10-14, .417
8. MWC 9-15, .375
9. SBC 5-16, .238
10. CUSA 4-23, .148

Vs P5 only
1. Big Ten 8-3, .727
2. SEC, PAC, ACC 5-5, .500
5. American 6-7, .462
6. MAC 4-7, .364
7. Big12 3-6, .333
8. MWC 2-11, .154
9. SBC 1-10, .091
10. CUSA 1-14, .067

Vs FCS
American 12-0, MWC 11-0, CUSA 9-0, SBC 5-0, SEC 4-0
ACC 11-1, Big12 6-1, PAC 6-1
Big Ten 6-2
MAC 8-3

"P5"

From top to bottom, the AAC might be a better conference than the Big 12 this year.

American has more P5 wins than everyone but BigTen and twice as many as Big12

gawd the B12 is bad...

Payday: You were right when you were saying maybe the AAC is better top to bottom

(09-18-2016 07:46 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Overall Record
1.BigTen 30-8, .789
2. SEC 21-7, .750
3. American 21-8, .724
4. ACC and PAC 23-9, .719
6. Big 12. 15-11, .577
7. MWC 20-15, .571
8. MAC 18-17, .514
9. SBC 10-16, .385
10. CUSA 13-23, .361

Vs FBS only
1. BigTen 24-6, .800
2. SEC 17-7, .708
3. PAC 17-8, .680
4. ACC 12-8, .600
5. American 9-8, .529
6. Big 12 9-10, .474
7. MAC 10-14, .417
8. MWC 9-15, .375
9. SBC 5-16, .238
10. CUSA 4-23, .148

Vs P5 only
1. Big Ten 8-3, .727
2. SEC, PAC, ACC 5-5, .500
5. American 6-7, .462
6. MAC 4-7, .364
7. Big12 3-6, .333
8. MWC 2-11, .154
9. SBC 1-10, .091
10. CUSA 1-14, .067

Vs FCS
American 12-0, MWC 11-0, CUSA 9-0, SBC 5-0, SEC 4-0
ACC 11-1, Big12 6-1, PAC 6-1
Big Ten 6-2
MAC 8-3

American have another very good year. Big 12, PAC and ACC down...and then there is CUSA...4-23 vs FBS? 1 win vs P5? Bad is too nice a word. Awful.
Cheers!

(09-18-2016 08:15 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  gawd the B12 is bad...

Payday: You were right when you were saying maybe the AAC is better top to bottom

My reaction to reading this admission by BC#1.

(09-18-2016 08:04 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  From top to bottom, the AAC might be a better conference than the Big 12 this year.

You're right and better locations for visiting fans.

The Big12 is absolute crap this year.

This data might increase the need for the B12 to raid particularly the AAC. They're on the verge of performing way behind the AAC in ooc games. Which is a terrible black eye for the conference. The more they take the less likely there's repeats of this season

This may be perhaps the best year for Mike Aresco to hammer out any source of early tv network convincing that the AAC is for real and deserves a better tv payout versus the crappy one it currently has.

(09-18-2016 07:46 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Vs P5 only
1. Big Ten 8-3, .727
2. SEC, PAC, ACC 5-5, .500
5. American 6-7, .462
6. MAC 4-7, .364
7. Big12 3-6, .333
8. MWC 2-11, .154
9. SBC 1-10, .091
10. CUSA 1-14, .067

The MAC West is 3-2 vs P5. Central Mich has a game at UVa to go 4-2. Toledo plays BYU.

Currently, Central Mich, Toledo and Western Mich are 3-0. If one of those three run the table, they will be great competition vs. a 1-loss American or MWC champ. Maybe even against a 0-loss MWC champ.

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Big MWC OOC games left:

AF vs. Navy, Army
Boise vs Ore St, BYU

(09-18-2016 08:32 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-18-2016 07:46 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

American have another very good year. Big 12, PAC and ACC down...and then there is CUSA...4-23 vs FBS? 1 win vs P5? Bad is too nice a word. Awful.
Cheers!

Have you not heard? CUSA is just as good as AAC.

(09-19-2016 07:26 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(09-18-2016 08:32 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-18-2016 07:46 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

American have another very good year. Big 12, PAC and ACC down...and then there is CUSA...4-23 vs FBS? 1 win vs P5? Bad is too nice a word. Awful.
Cheers!

Have you not heard? CUSA is just as good as AAC.

Based on their board, I believe they have given up that fight. They are moving on to the SunBelt and MAC for "who is better argument".

(09-19-2016 07:51 AM)isidnirb Wrote:  

(09-19-2016 07:26 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Have you not heard? CUSA is just as good as AAC.

Based on their board, I believe they have given up that fight. They are moving on to the SunBelt and MAC for "who is better argument".

True.

(09-19-2016 10:42 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(09-19-2016 07:51 AM)isidnirb Wrote:  

(09-19-2016 07:26 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Have you not heard? CUSA is just as good as AAC.

Based on their board, I believe they have given up that fight. They are moving on to the SunBelt and MAC for "who is better argument".

True.

Akron 65 @Marshall 38

(09-18-2016 07:46 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Overall Record
1.BigTen 30-8, .789
2. SEC 21-7, .750
3. American 21-8, .724
4. ACC and PAC 23-9, .719
6. Big 12. 15-11, .577
7. MWC 20-15, .571
8. MAC 18-17, .514
9. SBC 10-16, .385
10. CUSA 13-23, .361

Vs FBS only
1. BigTen 24-6, .800
2. SEC 17-7, .708
3. PAC 17-8, .680
4. ACC 12-8, .600
5. American 9-8, .529
6. Big 12 9-10, .474
7. MAC 10-14, .417
8. MWC 9-15, .375
9. SBC 5-16, .238
10. CUSA 4-23, .148

Vs P5 only
1. Big Ten 8-3, .727
2. SEC, PAC, ACC 5-5, .500
5. American 6-7, .462
6. MAC 4-7, .364
7. Big12 3-6, .333
8. MWC 2-11, .154
9. SBC 1-10, .091
10. CUSA 1-14, .067

Vs FCS
American 12-0, MWC 11-0, CUSA 9-0, SBC 5-0, SEC 4-0
ACC 11-1, Big12 6-1, PAC 6-1
Big Ten 6-2
MAC 8-3

CubanBull---I have a question. I know a portion of the G5 CFP money is divided on the basis of "conference performance". Is this measure based on conference performance vs other G5's, vs FBS, or overall OOC performance?

If it is based on record against other G5's---then it might be worthwhile to see how that number is shaking out in your performance comparisons.

(09-18-2016 07:46 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Overall Record
1.BigTen 30-8, .789
2. SEC 21-7, .750
3. American 21-8, .724
4. ACC and PAC 23-9, .719
6. Big 12. 15-11, .577
7. MWC 20-15, .571
8. MAC 18-17, .514
9. SBC 10-16, .385
10. CUSA 13-23, .361

Vs FBS only
1. BigTen 24-6, .800
2. SEC 17-7, .708
3. PAC 17-8, .680
4. ACC 12-8, .600
5. American 9-8, .529
6. Big 12 9-10, .474
7. MAC 10-14, .417
8. MWC 9-15, .375
9. SBC 5-16, .238
10. CUSA 4-23, .148

Vs P5 only
1. Big Ten 8-3, .727
2. SEC, PAC, ACC 5-5, .500
5. American 6-7, .462
6. MAC 4-7, .364
7. Big12 3-6, .333
8. MWC 2-11, .154
9. SBC 1-10, .091
10. CUSA 1-14, .067

Vs FCS
American 12-0, MWC 11-0, CUSA 9-0, SBC 5-0, SEC 4-0
ACC 11-1, Big12 6-1, PAC 6-1
Big Ten 6-2
MAC 8-3

Send this to Aresco and have him show it to ESPN

I almost hope the Big 12 ends up not expanding... would love to see what the AACs value is now on the open market.

(09-19-2016 11:40 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  I almost hope the Big 12 ends up not expanding... would love to see what the AACs value is now on the open market.

Hell, let's just make a raid on the B-12 !!