The bottom line is that here really needs to be a new division created that has the majority of G5 and upper end of FCS. It would be a massive realignment but why not let schools make their own choices. Just make it so that everyone in P5 or new G5 is bowl eligible but new G5 schools can opt out and accept a Bowl invite if they want to. All of the old FCS schools, including recent move ups will opt for the playoffs because playoffs are awesome. I am guessing that the cream of the crop G5 will merge into the 7th P5 but that leaves a lot of schools available. All of the MAC, All of CUSA, All of the Belt, most of the MWC, and most of the AAC will never have the opportunity to make the current playoff format in FBS. Hell, even Boise during its magical run in the Peterson years wouldn't of made it. I think NDSU is proving that you can "have your cake and eat it too." By allowing them to be bowl eligible it would keep that "what if" from coming into play. If Toledo rolled through Bama, Ohio Sate, the Big 12 champ in a single season they can go to be Ofange Bowl. However, once they had a taste of the playoffs, my guess is that they will opt to try and win a national championship instead of playing in that bowl game.

(09-21-2016 10:41 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-19-2016 12:25 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  With Montana's, Idaho, E Wash, and Port St voluntarily leaving the Big Sky so they can join the WAC and move to FBS, right?

I'll eat one of NoDak's socks if that happens. An old, smelly one.

The Big Sky has a major announcement tomorrow, so says their twitter account.

Be prepared for some sock eating but without Portland St.

UND are moving on and NMSU are moving in in 2018? I'm sure whatever it is you will spin it nicely into an veiled announcement that fits your agenda. Much like the UM Athletic Department press conference last week that was supposed to be the big announcement we shall await the big news. Same story different day

(09-21-2016 10:41 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-19-2016 12:25 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  With Montana's, Idaho, E Wash, and Port St voluntarily leaving the Big Sky so they can join the WAC and move to FBS, right?

I'll eat one of NoDak's socks if that happens. An old, smelly one.

The Big Sky has a major announcement tomorrow, so says their twitter account.

Be prepared for some sock eating but without Portland St.

http://bigskyconf.com/news/2016/9/20/GEN...62520.aspx

New Fan App for the Big Sky......(no FBS...again.....will never happen for the WAC again)


Big Sky Conference ‏@BigSkyConf · 44m44 minutes ago

Just in time for #BigSkyFB, #BigSkySoccer & #BigSkyVB league play, we've officially released our new mobile app!

(09-22-2016 11:55 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(09-21-2016 10:41 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-19-2016 12:25 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  With Montana's, Idaho, E Wash, and Port St voluntarily leaving the Big Sky so they can join the WAC and move to FBS, right?

I'll eat one of NoDak's socks if that happens. An old, smelly one.

The Big Sky has a major announcement tomorrow, so says their twitter account.

Be prepared for some sock eating but without Portland St.

http://bigskyconf.com/news/2016/9/20/GEN...62520.aspx

New Fan App for the Big Sky......(no FBS...again.....will never happen for the WAC again)


Big Sky Conference ‏@BigSkyConf · 44m44 minutes ago

Just in time for #BigSkyFB, #BigSkySoccer & #BigSkyVB league play, we've officially released our new mobile app!

Oops.

NoDak - eat my sock, you clown.

(09-22-2016 02:10 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  NoDak - eat my sock, you clown.

I see where the GF Herald has a story quoting the new BSC commissioner stating that they are currently having discussions about UND being a FB only BSC member.

http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/4...re-ongoing

For some reason I don't think it will be too difficult for UND to get the 2/3 vote necessary from fellow BSC Presidents. Most of whom weren't thrilled when UND joined minus the promised USD.

I still lay odds that early next year an announcement will be made that UND are joining the Summit for Olympic and staying in the BSC for FB.

That's correct. And a great first step towards UND eventually joins the MVFC.

Although, it wouldn't be the first time that a former NCC (DII days) member dropped football altogether, to focus on hockey and save big costs on football, when there was already another public school in-state that dominated the football landscape in that state.

I wonder .....

(09-22-2016 12:20 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 11:55 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(09-21-2016 10:41 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-19-2016 12:25 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  With Montana's, Idaho, E Wash, and Port St voluntarily leaving the Big Sky so they can join the WAC and move to FBS, right?

I'll eat one of NoDak's socks if that happens. An old, smelly one.

The Big Sky has a major announcement tomorrow, so says their twitter account.

Be prepared for some sock eating but without Portland St.

http://bigskyconf.com/news/2016/9/20/GEN...62520.aspx

New Fan App for the Big Sky......(no FBS...again.....will never happen for the WAC again)


Big Sky Conference ‏@BigSkyConf · 44m44 minutes ago

Just in time for #BigSkyFB, #BigSkySoccer & #BigSkyVB league play, we've officially released our new mobile app!

Oops.

Mobile apps are essential for FBS .

(09-22-2016 02:43 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 02:10 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  NoDak - eat my sock, you clown.

I see where the GF Herald has a story quoting the new BSC commissioner stating that they are currently having discussions about UND being a FB only BSC member.

http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/4...re-ongoing

For some reason I don't think it will be too difficult for UND to get the 2/3 vote necessary from fellow BSC Presidents. Most of whom weren't thrilled when UND joined minus the promised USD.

I still lay odds that early next year an announcement will be made that UND are joining the Summit for Olympic and staying in the BSC for FB.

The Herald wants the Slummit so it saves their precious tennis programs. Why would our President want a committee to make recommendations by November 1st when conference negotiations can't begin until next year? Why would UND have purposely dropped baseball if it was eyeballing Slummit League approval? As a non-football conference, it's perilously close to losing its autobid because of low baseball and men's soccer teams. The real home run candidate is SIU-E, but they don't want to leave their OVC bus league.

(09-22-2016 02:48 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  That's correct. And a great first step towards UND eventually joins the MVFC.

Although, it wouldn't be the first time that a former NCC (DII days) member dropped football altogether, to focus on hockey and save big costs on football, when there was already another public school in-state that dominated the football landscape in that state.

I wonder .....

Funny coming from a fan of a school that belly ached over Fargo twice not voting them in a hockey arena so the bizon could start a team.

(09-22-2016 04:30 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 02:43 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 02:10 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  NoDak - eat my sock, you clown.

I see where the GF Herald has a story quoting the new BSC commissioner stating that they are currently having discussions about UND being a FB only BSC member.

http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/4...re-ongoing

For some reason I don't think it will be too difficult for UND to get the 2/3 vote necessary from fellow BSC Presidents. Most of whom weren't thrilled when UND joined minus the promised USD.

I still lay odds that early next year an announcement will be made that UND are joining the Summit for Olympic and staying in the BSC for FB.

The Herald wants the Slummit so it saves their precious tennis programs. Why would our President want a committee to make recommendations by November 1st when conference negotiations can't begin until next year? Why would UND have purposely dropped baseball if it was eyeballing Slummit League approval? As a non-football conference, it's perilously close to losing its autobid because of low baseball and men's soccer teams. The real home run candidate is SIU-E, but they don't want to leave their OVC bus league.

You seem to be the only person worried about SLC baseball. We are currently at 6. Not ideal but I think we will be fine. UND can join USD as non-baseball playing members. Men's soccer? There are currently 7. Again, we will be fine.

UND dropped baseball because they couldn't afford the sport. Much like they dropped golf and will likely cut other sports due to budget woes. They won't be dropping FB and won't be moving down to D2, but I will bet you anything they will be moving to the "Slummit" as you call it for your Olympic sports. And it will be sooner than you think.

(09-22-2016 05:24 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 04:30 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 02:43 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 02:10 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  NoDak - eat my sock, you clown.

I see where the GF Herald has a story quoting the new BSC commissioner stating that they are currently having discussions about UND being a FB only BSC member.

http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/4...re-ongoing

For some reason I don't think it will be too difficult for UND to get the 2/3 vote necessary from fellow BSC Presidents. Most of whom weren't thrilled when UND joined minus the promised USD.

I still lay odds that early next year an announcement will be made that UND are joining the Summit for Olympic and staying in the BSC for FB.

The Herald wants the Slummit so it saves their precious tennis programs. Why would our President want a committee to make recommendations by November 1st when conference negotiations can't begin until next year? Why would UND have purposely dropped baseball if it was eyeballing Slummit League approval? As a non-football conference, it's perilously close to losing its autobid because of low baseball and men's soccer teams. The real home run candidate is SIU-E, but they don't want to leave their OVC bus league.

You seem to be the only person worried about SLC baseball. We are currently at 6. Not ideal but I think we will be fine. UND can join USD as non-baseball playing members. Men's soccer? There are currently 7. Again, we will be fine.

UND dropped baseball because they couldn't afford the sport. Much like they dropped golf and will likely cut other sports due to budget woes. They won't be dropping FB and won't be moving down to D2, but I will bet you anything they will be moving to the "Slummit" as you call it for your Olympic sports. And it will be sooner than you think.

The Slummit Presidents were worried about it so they likely gave Oral Roberts a free pass to come back. Delusional talk of yours again. A required sport needs eight members as insurance if an NCAA dance bid is dependent on it.

The Slummit wouldn't have these worries if it sponsored football, but the XDSU's would sabotage the Slummit in a second if their MVFC affiliation turns into an MVC bid. UND leadership will pass on all the XDSU drama.

NoDak loses. UND wins, big.

Guaranteed UND is in the Summit as a full member.

And L O L at the 100% made up "well, you probably should have eight in a sport" ridiculousness.

(09-22-2016 05:42 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  NoDak loses. UND wins, big.

Guaranteed UND is in the Summit as a full member.

And L O L at the 100% made up "well, you probably should have eight in a sport" ridiculousness.

A conference always needs extra teams just for insurance. No conference has the NCAA limit of seven teams.

You are on a realignment board and you still post drivel because you are purposely disrespectful to everyone.

(09-22-2016 05:31 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 05:24 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 04:30 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 02:43 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 02:10 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  NoDak - eat my sock, you clown.

I see where the GF Herald has a story quoting the new BSC commissioner stating that they are currently having discussions about UND being a FB only BSC member.

http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/4...re-ongoing

For some reason I don't think it will be too difficult for UND to get the 2/3 vote necessary from fellow BSC Presidents. Most of whom weren't thrilled when UND joined minus the promised USD.

I still lay odds that early next year an announcement will be made that UND are joining the Summit for Olympic and staying in the BSC for FB.

The Herald wants the Slummit so it saves their precious tennis programs. Why would our President want a committee to make recommendations by November 1st when conference negotiations can't begin until next year? Why would UND have purposely dropped baseball if it was eyeballing Slummit League approval? As a non-football conference, it's perilously close to losing its autobid because of low baseball and men's soccer teams. The real home run candidate is SIU-E, but they don't want to leave their OVC bus league.

You seem to be the only person worried about SLC baseball. We are currently at 6. Not ideal but I think we will be fine. UND can join USD as non-baseball playing members. Men's soccer? There are currently 7. Again, we will be fine.

UND dropped baseball because they couldn't afford the sport. Much like they dropped golf and will likely cut other sports due to budget woes. They won't be dropping FB and won't be moving down to D2, but I will bet you anything they will be moving to the "Slummit" as you call it for your Olympic sports. And it will be sooner than you think.

The Slummit Presidents were worried about it so they likely gave Oral Roberts a free pass to come back. Delusional talk of yours again. A required sport needs eight members as insurance if an NCAA dance bid is dependent on it.

The Slummit wouldn't have these worries if it sponsored football, but the XDSU's would sabotage the Slummit in a second if their MVFC affiliation turns into an MVC bid. UND leadership will pass on all the XDSU drama.

UND will be jumping head first into the XDSU drama once Kennedy says so. Of course there really isn't any XDSU drama. There is a lot of UND drama which is why a lot of people associated with the Summit don't really want anything to do with your school. But alas, it will come to be. For now enjoy your new Big Sky app. We will all wait with great anticipation the next "big announcement" coming out of the BSC, WAC, UM...

Oh, ORU were added back because it was a smart move for both the conference and for ORU. It was also the right thing to do.

(09-22-2016 05:42 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  NoDak loses. UND wins, big.

Guaranteed UND is in the Summit as a full member.

And L O L at the 100% made up "well, you probably should have eight in a sport" ridiculousness.

He's been preaching his number forever. He had the Summit defunct by July 1, 2013 yet today, we still play on.

SiouxVolley
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Reading BIsonville is just hilarious. Some SDSU fans there are saying that UND fans are the ones making up issues about how the Summit has major problems, yet these same SDSU fans weren't even aware that the Summit is already in the grace period for baseball (and the Summit has to have six full DI teams in baseball and men's soccer to continue as an NCAA conference, as well as seven DI full members).

So if Oakland is going to the Horizon for next season ...the the Summit will be down to four DI baseball teams (NDSU, SDSU, WIU, and IPFW, as Omaha won't count for two more years), which means ...

The Summit's grace period for baseball becomes forfeited, as no conference can fall two teams below the minimum and be eligible for a grace period ....

Which means the Summit becomes officially defunct in the eyes of the NCAA after July 1st.

Which means by July 1 the Summit has to either offer NJIT full membership to get back to 5, or get down on hands and knees and beg UND to join for baseball only. Maybe UND can demand a few goodies: like all baseball travel paid for by the Summit and all of NDSU/SDSU/USD must agree to a permanent arrangement for football scheduling in order for UND to join for baseball only and save the Summit.

Oral Roberts did not fit in the Southland. They have men's soccer, no football. It didn't work. Nothing personal, I'm sure. Hence the return to the Summit.

I wonder if Denver would add baseball for the Summit?

(09-22-2016 06:07 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 05:42 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  NoDak loses. UND wins, big.

Guaranteed UND is in the Summit as a full member.

And L O L at the 100% made up "well, you probably should have eight in a sport" ridiculousness.

He's been preaching his number forever. He had the Summit defunct by July 1, 2013 yet today, we still play on.

SiouxVolley
Members

3,279 posts
Posted May 1, 2013
Reading BIsonville is just hilarious. Some SDSU fans there are saying that UND fans are the ones making up issues about how the Summit has major problems, yet these same SDSU fans weren't even aware that the Summit is already in the grace period for baseball (and the Summit has to have six full DI teams in baseball and men's soccer to continue as an NCAA conference, as well as seven DI full members).

So if Oakland is going to the Horizon for next season ...the the Summit will be down to four DI baseball teams (NDSU, SDSU, WIU, and IPFW, as Omaha won't count for two more years), which means ...

The Summit's grace period for baseball becomes forfeited, as no conference can fall two teams below the minimum and be eligible for a grace period ....

Which means the Summit becomes officially defunct in the eyes of the NCAA after July 1st.

Which means by July 1 the Summit has to either offer NJIT full membership to get back to 5, or get down on hands and knees and beg UND to join for baseball only. Maybe UND can demand a few goodies: like all baseball travel paid for by the Summit and all of NDSU/SDSU/USD must agree to a permanent arrangement for football scheduling in order for UND to join for baseball only and save the Summit.

Getting back ORU for baseball was absolutely critical for the Slummit Presidents but you are still in denial and delusional. That post still stands on its logic, something that your and MplsBison's posts lack.

(09-22-2016 06:12 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  Oral Roberts did not fit in the Southland. They have men's soccer, no football. It didn't work. Nothing personal, I'm sure. Hence the return to the Summit.

I wonder if Denver would add baseball for the Summit?

Denver wouldn't add baseball and softball for the much more valued MVC. They sure wouldn't add it as a favor to the Slummit.

(09-22-2016 06:14 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 06:07 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 05:42 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  NoDak loses. UND wins, big.

Guaranteed UND is in the Summit as a full member.

And L O L at the 100% made up "well, you probably should have eight in a sport" ridiculousness.

He's been preaching his number forever. He had the Summit defunct by July 1, 2013 yet today, we still play on.

SiouxVolley
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3,279 posts
Posted May 1, 2013
Reading BIsonville is just hilarious. Some SDSU fans there are saying that UND fans are the ones making up issues about how the Summit has major problems, yet these same SDSU fans weren't even aware that the Summit is already in the grace period for baseball (and the Summit has to have six full DI teams in baseball and men's soccer to continue as an NCAA conference, as well as seven DI full members).

So if Oakland is going to the Horizon for next season ...the the Summit will be down to four DI baseball teams (NDSU, SDSU, WIU, and IPFW, as Omaha won't count for two more years), which means ...

The Summit's grace period for baseball becomes forfeited, as no conference can fall two teams below the minimum and be eligible for a grace period ....

Which means the Summit becomes officially defunct in the eyes of the NCAA after July 1st.

Which means by July 1 the Summit has to either offer NJIT full membership to get back to 5, or get down on hands and knees and beg UND to join for baseball only. Maybe UND can demand a few goodies: like all baseball travel paid for by the Summit and all of NDSU/SDSU/USD must agree to a permanent arrangement for football scheduling in order for UND to join for baseball only and save the Summit.

Getting back ORU for baseball was absolutely critical for the Slummit Presidents but you are still in denial and delusional. That post still stands on its logic, something that your and MplsBison's posts lack.

Which post? The one stating the Summit would be dead on July 1, 2013? Enjoy your app. I hear from friends in Missoula it doesn't work.