(09-18-2016 09:37 PM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  

(09-18-2016 09:32 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  If "rumor gate" was such a big reason,why did they suddenly put it behind them 2nd half Saturday?

Can we have another rumor as to why they woke up and had a reason suddenly play, show interest and get jacked despite rumorgate?

I'd settle for a rumor of a rumor for putting rumorgate behind.

Conspiracies aside, I'd settle for a punter who can kick more that 25 yards.

Me too.

(09-18-2016 09:32 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  If "rumor gate" was such a big reason,why did they suddenly put it behind them 2nd half Saturday?

Can we have another rumor as to why they woke up and had a reason suddenly play, show interest and get jacked despite rumorgate?

I'd settle for a rumor of a rumor for putting rumorgate behind.

The second half 'surge' was less about 'waking up' and more about the coach of a dominant team allowing 2nd and 3rd stringers to play.

(09-20-2016 07:21 AM)namron Wrote:  

(09-18-2016 09:32 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  If "rumor gate" was such a big reason,why did they suddenly put it behind them 2nd half Saturday?

Can we have another rumor as to why they woke up and had a reason suddenly play, show interest and get jacked despite rumorgate?

I'd settle for a rumor of a rumor for putting rumorgate behind.

The second half 'surge' was less about 'waking up' and more about the coach of a dominant team allowing 2nd and 3rd stringers to play.

I'm sure the coach did change his game plan a little, but at least there was emotion on both sides of the ball for NIU. And I didn't look at their team depth charts, but it was still the end of the 2nd and whole 3rd quarters when we looked decent and pulled to within 7. Most coaches don't put in 2nd and 3rd stringers until the 4th, unless they're so deep they like the rotations to make sure they're rested for the 4th qtr.

(09-17-2016 11:09 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  I would assume not having the maximum number of players on the field allowed would also be placed under coaching. Happened at least twice against SDSU, just no words.

Carey only has 10 fingers and toes...

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(09-18-2016 11:05 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  

(09-18-2016 08:35 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(09-17-2016 11:20 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  

(09-17-2016 11:05 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(09-17-2016 11:02 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  I understand what you're trying to say on this, but it's not "all" coaching, that is incorrect. There's a big piece of talent that comes into it.

NIU is plenty talented...they just don't do any of the small things right and get called for tons of penalties. Lots of that is on the staff.

Lots of pieces of the game, yes. But he said "tackling and blocking" are all coaching. I disagree with that.

There's certainly a ton in a game that is all coaching, and we're not great there either, but I wouldn't say that about tackling and blocking.

We can agree to disagree but the crap tackling and crap blocking are not issues for well coached Division II and Division III teams or even well-coached high school teams. If we were getting out talented, none of us would complain. But that crap we saw the last three games are inexcusable. The technique issues for Mayes is inexcusable. He should have been able to at least slow down Pomphrey but instead looked inept in his two long TD runs.

So tackling has nothing to do with your talent? Nothing?

Nope. Tackling is all heart and desire. Our guys have plenty of speed, size, and strength. I question their technique, heart, and desire.

(09-20-2016 10:15 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(09-18-2016 11:05 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  

(09-18-2016 08:35 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(09-17-2016 11:20 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  

(09-17-2016 11:05 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  NIU is plenty talented...they just don't do any of the small things right and get called for tons of penalties. Lots of that is on the staff.

Lots of pieces of the game, yes. But he said "tackling and blocking" are all coaching. I disagree with that.

There's certainly a ton in a game that is all coaching, and we're not great there either, but I wouldn't say that about tackling and blocking.

We can agree to disagree but the crap tackling and crap blocking are not issues for well coached Division II and Division III teams or even well-coached high school teams. If we were getting out talented, none of us would complain. But that crap we saw the last three games are inexcusable. The technique issues for Mayes is inexcusable. He should have been able to at least slow down Pomphrey but instead looked inept in his two long TD runs.

So tackling has nothing to do with your talent? Nothing?

Nope. Tackling is all heart and desire. Our guys have plenty of speed, size, and strength. I question their technique, heart, and desire.

Ha, but you agree that tackling does have something to do with the speed, size, strength of the player, yes? Which is what you refused to say earlier...goodness.

(09-21-2016 12:13 AM)17Huskies Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 10:15 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(09-18-2016 11:05 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  

(09-18-2016 08:35 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(09-17-2016 11:20 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  Lots of pieces of the game, yes. But he said "tackling and blocking" are all coaching. I disagree with that.

There's certainly a ton in a game that is all coaching, and we're not great there either, but I wouldn't say that about tackling and blocking.

We can agree to disagree but the crap tackling and crap blocking are not issues for well coached Division II and Division III teams or even well-coached high school teams. If we were getting out talented, none of us would complain. But that crap we saw the last three games are inexcusable. The technique issues for Mayes is inexcusable. He should have been able to at least slow down Pomphrey but instead looked inept in his two long TD runs.

So tackling has nothing to do with your talent? Nothing?

Nope. Tackling is all heart and desire. Our guys have plenty of speed, size, and strength. I question their technique, heart, and desire.

Ha, but you agree that tackling does have something to do with the speed, size, strength of the player, yes? Which is what you refused to say earlier...goodness.

You must be retarded. NDSU is considered less talented as a FCS program but they sure do block and tackle a lot better than we do.

(09-21-2016 03:14 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(09-21-2016 12:13 AM)17Huskies Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 10:15 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(09-18-2016 11:05 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  

(09-18-2016 08:35 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  We can agree to disagree but the crap tackling and crap blocking are not issues for well coached Division II and Division III teams or even well-coached high school teams. If we were getting out talented, none of us would complain. But that crap we saw the last three games are inexcusable. The technique issues for Mayes is inexcusable. He should have been able to at least slow down Pomphrey but instead looked inept in his two long TD runs.

So tackling has nothing to do with your talent? Nothing?

Nope. Tackling is all heart and desire. Our guys have plenty of speed, size, and strength. I question their technique, heart, and desire.

Ha, but you agree that tackling does have something to do with the speed, size, strength of the player, yes? Which is what you refused to say earlier...goodness.

You must be retarded. NDSU is considered less talented as a FCS program but they sure do block and tackle a lot better than we do.

Nope, I'm not, but a very offensive thing to say to anyone. All I was trying to get you to understand is that tackling has 'something' to do with talent, and then yes, coaching/practice/blah blah blah. For instance, you could have the best coach and practice in the world, but you're still probably not going to tackle like a NFL player.

And I don't think everyone would consider NDSU less talented, even before this year.

(09-21-2016 11:39 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  

(09-21-2016 03:14 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(09-21-2016 12:13 AM)17Huskies Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 10:15 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(09-18-2016 11:05 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  So tackling has nothing to do with your talent? Nothing?

Nope. Tackling is all heart and desire. Our guys have plenty of speed, size, and strength. I question their technique, heart, and desire.

Ha, but you agree that tackling does have something to do with the speed, size, strength of the player, yes? Which is what you refused to say earlier...goodness.

You must be retarded. NDSU is considered less talented as a FCS program but they sure do block and tackle a lot better than we do.

Nope, I'm not, but a very offensive thing to say to anyone. All I was trying to get you to understand is that tackling has 'something' to do with talent, and then yes, coaching/practice/blah blah blah. For instance, you could have the best coach and practice in the world, but you're still probably not going to tackle like a NFL player.

And I don't think everyone would consider NDSU less talented, even before this year.

very very few of the guys at ndsu received any D1 offers some had wyoming offers from Coach Bohl but the vast majority did not. I that defines them as less talented going in as freshmen I do not know. But I promise you that after a couple years in that program the kids they put on that field are absolutely as talented and better coached then most of the teams in the country !! Good coaches teach and develop the players and good programs instill confidence and determination within their teams. Thats the difference !!

find a million a year and hire Klieman from NDSU

randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:
If "rumor gate" was such a big reason,why did they suddenly put it behind them 2nd half Saturday?

Can we have another rumor as to why they woke up and had a reason suddenly play, show interest and get jacked despite rumorgate?

I'd settle for a rumor of a rumor for putting rumorgate behind.




ok if you want to call what happened last year a rumor you are an idiot it is just simple facts that I have shared about what happened. i have never tried to say it has anything to do with our poor play just a statement of fact and you can decide what effect it has now if any > But do not make me look like I do not have direct knowledge about the fact. if this board does not want that inside information and will just make fun of it and imply that anyword I have ever said is rumor and not based on 100 % fact then I am done contributing on here you guys can just keep guessing about ****.

BTW Hill just got off suspension and I think Isom will start at corner saturday

Keep posts coming! Some like to bicker & *****, but that's part of the boards for better or worse. I appreciate good posts & info on my favorite football program. So no worries man.

(09-22-2016 01:05 AM)randy6956 Wrote:  randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:
If "rumor gate" was such a big reason,why did they suddenly put it behind them 2nd half Saturday?

Can we have another rumor as to why they woke up and had a reason suddenly play, show interest and get jacked despite rumorgate?

I'd settle for a rumor of a rumor for putting rumorgate behind.




ok if you want to call what happened last year a rumor you are an idiot it is just simple facts that I have shared about what happened. i have never tried to say it has anything to do with our poor play just a statement of fact and you can decide what effect it has now if any > But do not make me look like I do not have direct knowledge about the fact. if this board does not want that inside information and will just make fun of it and imply that anyword I have ever said is rumor and not based on 100 % fact then I am done contributing on here you guys can just keep guessing about ****.

BTW Hill just got off suspension and I think Isom will start at corner saturday

I do not find it so hard to believe that the Huskies really were playing their hearts out in the Poinsettia Bowl last year, but they just got outmatched by a better Boise State team with more talent. It did not help that BSU was healthy and the Huskies were using their 5th QB. To say that the Huskies gave up to protest their coach is insulting to Carey, the players, and BSU.

So why didn't tOSu beat up the Huskies the way BSU did? Possibly because the Huskies were healthier in Week 2, and tOSU was playing their cards close to their vest, as opposed to BSU, who went all out vs the Huskies.

The Huskies often have the misfortune of getting invited to bowl games vs teams that are not only better than them, but also insulted that they get stuck with the Huskies, so they actually have to dominate the Huskies to prove a point.

This was the case with

Boise State '15
Marshall '14
Florida State '12
TCU '06

If the players all hate the coach so much, why did they return for another year? There are plenty of other schools they could have transferred to.

(09-22-2016 01:05 AM)randy6956 Wrote:  randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:
If "rumor gate" was such a big reason,why did they suddenly put it behind them 2nd half Saturday?

Can we have another rumor as to why they woke up and had a reason suddenly play, show interest and get jacked despite rumorgate?

I'd settle for a rumor of a rumor for putting rumorgate behind.




ok if you want to call what happened last year a rumor you are an idiot it is just simple facts that I have shared about what happened. i have never tried to say it has anything to do with our poor play just a statement of fact and you can decide what effect it has now if any > But do not make me look like I do not have direct knowledge about the fact. if this board does not want that inside information and will just make fun of it and imply that anyword I have ever said is rumor and not based on 100 % fact then I am done contributing on here you guys can just keep guessing about ****.

BTW Hill just got off suspension and I think Isom will start at corner saturday

I know most of us appreciate your comments on this board.

I appreciate everyone's input here. It's just a boards behavior, if you present a bold or extreme point, part of the board will be defensive. Not because of the notion or facts being accurate, but because it may go against what they believe.

(09-22-2016 09:20 AM)Huskie_Jon Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 01:05 AM)randy6956 Wrote:  randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:
If "rumor gate" was such a big reason,why did they suddenly put it behind them 2nd half Saturday?

Can we have another rumor as to why they woke up and had a reason suddenly play, show interest and get jacked despite rumorgate?

I'd settle for a rumor of a rumor for putting rumorgate behind.




ok if you want to call what happened last year a rumor you are an idiot it is just simple facts that I have shared about what happened. i have never tried to say it has anything to do with our poor play just a statement of fact and you can decide what effect it has now if any > But do not make me look like I do not have direct knowledge about the fact. if this board does not want that inside information and will just make fun of it and imply that anyword I have ever said is rumor and not based on 100 % fact then I am done contributing on here you guys can just keep guessing about ****.

BTW Hill just got off suspension and I think Isom will start at corner saturday

I do not find it so hard to believe that the Huskies really were playing their hearts out in the Poinsettia Bowl last year, but they just got outmatched by a better Boise State team with more talent. It did not help that BSU was healthy and the Huskies were using their 5th QB. To say that the Huskies gave up to protest their coach is insulting to Carey, the players, and BSU.

So why didn't tOSu beat up the Huskies the way BSU did? Possibly because the Huskies were healthier in Week 2, and tOSU was playing their cards close to their vest, as opposed to BSU, who went all out vs the Huskies.

The Huskies often have the misfortune of getting invited to bowl games vs teams that are not only better than them, but also insulted that they get stuck with the Huskies, so they actually have to dominate the Huskies to prove a point.

This was the case with

Boise State '15
Marshall '14
Florida State '12
TCU '06

If the players all hate the coach so much, why did they return for another year? There are plenty of other schools they could have transferred to.

That is Rod Carey... Throw in a loss to a bad Boston College team, a beating by USF.