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RE: 2 reasons we're not this bad. 2 reasons we are.
(09-17-2016 09:36 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Tackling and blocking is all coaching: fundamentals.

I understand what you're trying to say on this, but it's not "all" coaching, that is incorrect. There's a big piece of talent that comes into it.
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(09-17-2016 11:02 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  
(09-17-2016 09:36 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Tackling and blocking is all coaching: fundamentals.

I understand what you're trying to say on this, but it's not "all" coaching, that is incorrect. There's a big piece of talent that comes into it.

NIU is plenty talented...they just don't do any of the small things right and get called for tons of penalties. Lots of that is on the staff.
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I would assume not having the maximum number of players on the field allowed would also be placed under coaching. Happened at least twice against SDSU, just no words.
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Is there a replay of the game somewhere?
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(09-17-2016 11:09 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  I would assume not having the maximum number of players on the field allowed would also be placed under coaching. Happened at least twice against SDSU, just no words.

Yes, that is inexcusable, and on the coaching staff. How can that happen twice?? Stunning. This team doesn't do any of the little things that win games well at the moment. And that comes from preparation and repetition, two things the coaching staff owns.
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(09-17-2016 11:05 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  
(09-17-2016 11:02 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  
(09-17-2016 09:36 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Tackling and blocking is all coaching: fundamentals.

I understand what you're trying to say on this, but it's not "all" coaching, that is incorrect. There's a big piece of talent that comes into it.

NIU is plenty talented...they just don't do any of the small things right and get called for tons of penalties. Lots of that is on the staff.

Lots of pieces of the game, yes. But he said "tackling and blocking" are all coaching. I disagree with that.

There's certainly a ton in a game that is all coaching, and we're not great there either, but I wouldn't say that about tackling and blocking.
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(09-17-2016 11:11 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  
(09-17-2016 11:09 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  I would assume not having the maximum number of players on the field allowed would also be placed under coaching. Happened at least twice against SDSU, just no words.

Yes, that is inexcusable, and on the coaching staff. How can that happen twice?? Stunning. This team doesn't do any of the little things that win games well at the moment. And that comes from preparation and repetition, two things the coaching staff owns.

Wow, I didn't notice. What plays?
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I think at this point you have to try another punter. He showed last year he was horribly inconsistent and now he's taken a step back which is bad.
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(09-17-2016 09:48 PM)prairiedawg Wrote:  Punter is terrible. Cut him. Cost team 50 yards minimum. SDSU punter killed us!

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Speaking of the SDSU punter, did you see how high his kicks were? The SDSU players had enough time to walk down to our end.
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(09-17-2016 11:21 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  
(09-17-2016 11:11 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  
(09-17-2016 11:09 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  I would assume not having the maximum number of players on the field allowed would also be placed under coaching. Happened at least twice against SDSU, just no words.

Yes, that is inexcusable, and on the coaching staff. How can that happen twice?? Stunning. This team doesn't do any of the little things that win games well at the moment. And that comes from preparation and repetition, two things the coaching staff owns.

Wow, I didn't notice. What plays?

Didn't notice as well. That is bad. Was it on one of their TD runs?
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(09-17-2016 11:09 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  I would assume not having the maximum number of players on the field allowed would also be placed under coaching. Happened at least twice against SDSU, just no words.

Is that why we're burning time outs when the other team is punting? 03-banghead
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(09-17-2016 09:08 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  You're picking one point out of the entirety of the things in the losing streak. I'm presenting it as a cumulative effect. And I'm not saying this is the ONLY reason why we're struggling.

That's fine, but I respectfully have grown tired about even hearing travel mentioned as an issue. Two schools agree to play, especially home and away arrangements, means they're both going to make that trip. When NIU first joined the MAC and returned to the MAC, some of the Ohio schools moaned about having to trek "all the way to DeKalb." Then OU men's basketball coach Danny Nee referred to NIU hosting the league tourney in Rockford as being "the end of the earth." Well F U to those schools, they had to make the trip every other year while NIU was making at least two or three trips to Ohio every year.
While the MAC and the ESPN deal may dictate what weeknight we're playing and who we play, the non-conference scheduling is ultimately something our administration (with or without coach input) agrees to; 2015 ended and there were how many months before the 2016 season began? So back-to-back road games is not an excuse for losing six in a row.
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(09-18-2016 09:26 AM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  
(09-17-2016 11:09 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  I would assume not having the maximum number of players on the field allowed would also be placed under coaching. Happened at least twice against SDSU, just no words.

Is that why we're burning time outs when the other team is punting? 03-banghead

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(09-17-2016 11:20 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  
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(09-17-2016 11:02 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  
(09-17-2016 09:36 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Tackling and blocking is all coaching: fundamentals.

I understand what you're trying to say on this, but it's not "all" coaching, that is incorrect. There's a big piece of talent that comes into it.

NIU is plenty talented...they just don't do any of the small things right and get called for tons of penalties. Lots of that is on the staff.

Lots of pieces of the game, yes. But he said "tackling and blocking" are all coaching. I disagree with that.

There's certainly a ton in a game that is all coaching, and we're not great there either, but I wouldn't say that about tackling and blocking.
We can agree to disagree but the crap tackling and crap blocking are not issues for well coached Division II and Division III teams or even well-coached high school teams. If we were getting out talented, none of us would complain. But that crap we saw the last three games are inexcusable. The technique issues for Mayes is inexcusable. He should have been able to at least slow down Pomphrey but instead looked inept in his two long TD runs.
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If "rumor gate" was such a big reason,why did they suddenly put it behind them 2nd half Saturday?

Can we have another rumor as to why they woke up and had a reason suddenly play, show interest and get jacked despite rumorgate?

I'd settle for a rumor of a rumor for putting rumorgate behind.

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(09-18-2016 09:32 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  If "rumor gate" was such a big reason,why did they suddenly put it behind them 2nd half Saturday?

Can we have another rumor as to why they woke up and had a reason suddenly play, show interest and get jacked despite rumorgate?

I'd settle for a rumor of a rumor for putting rumorgate behind.

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Conspiracies aside, I'd settle for a punter who can kick more that 25 yards.
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When you keep getting your azz handed to you, you fight back at some point. Have a feeling it won't last. We didn't finish very strong and reverted back to first half mode (lack of tackling and blocking) to finish the game. WIU will put up a fight and will probably be better coached than our guys although we probably have the advantage in size, strength, and speed.
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Like Wyoming.
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(09-18-2016 09:38 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  When you keep getting your azz handed to you, you fight back at some point. Have a feeling it won't last. We didn't finish very strong and reverted back to first half mode (lack of tackling and blocking) to finish the game. WIU will put up a fight and will probably be better coached than our guys although we probably have the advantage in size, strength, and speed.

Home cures many ills, its more embarrassing to come out and roll over in front of your fans compared to the road. I would imagine when there is turmoil on a team it always is more evident on the road.
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(09-18-2016 08:35 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  
(09-17-2016 11:20 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  
(09-17-2016 11:05 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  
(09-17-2016 11:02 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  
(09-17-2016 09:36 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Tackling and blocking is all coaching: fundamentals.

I understand what you're trying to say on this, but it's not "all" coaching, that is incorrect. There's a big piece of talent that comes into it.

NIU is plenty talented...they just don't do any of the small things right and get called for tons of penalties. Lots of that is on the staff.

Lots of pieces of the game, yes. But he said "tackling and blocking" are all coaching. I disagree with that.

There's certainly a ton in a game that is all coaching, and we're not great there either, but I wouldn't say that about tackling and blocking.
We can agree to disagree but the crap tackling and crap blocking are not issues for well coached Division II and Division III teams or even well-coached high school teams. If we were getting out talented, none of us would complain. But that crap we saw the last three games are inexcusable. The technique issues for Mayes is inexcusable. He should have been able to at least slow down Pomphrey but instead looked inept in his two long TD runs.

So tackling has nothing to do with your talent? Nothing?
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