(10-06-2016 10:18 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

Quote:A head football coach needs to shoulder the blame when things go wrong, not point fingers wherever he can find a scapegoat.

Tuberville is no longer — and honestly never was — fit to lead this program.

Ouch.

Nothing better than telling it like it is.........

(10-06-2016 10:18 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

Quote:A head football coach needs to shoulder the blame when things go wrong, not point fingers wherever he can find a scapegoat.

Tuberville is no longer — and honestly never was — fit to lead this program.

Ouch.

Quote:Tuberville also attempted to take the pressure off himself for his often-maligned decision to not play senior quarterback Gunner Kiel, pushing the focus onto offensive coordinator Zac Taylor instead.

“It’s [Taylor’s] offense, he knows what he wants out of it, and his decision was to go with Hayden. Then it was his decision to go with Ross,” Tuberville said.

And guess what, Tubs? It was your decision to go with Taylor and his offense. It's as if the word accountability has no resonance in his brain.

(10-06-2016 10:21 AM)CincyBro Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 10:18 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

Quote:A head football coach needs to shoulder the blame when things go wrong, not point fingers wherever he can find a scapegoat.

Tuberville is no longer — and honestly never was — fit to lead this program.

Ouch.

Nothing better than telling it like it is.........

That kid has stones.

To see how these things work, rent Stanley Kubrick's Paths of Glory. Generals lose battles and wars, but the blame for defeat is laid on the little guys in the trenches. Would you like a glass of cognac, general? How about a contract extension?

Here’s an idea for UC’s next coach …….. Art Briles.

He was terminated at Baylor for the sexual assault suit but he was never convicted of anything personally. Only that he didn’t have institutional control over his team.

I don't know much about the whole story of what went on there but what I do know is he built Baylor up from nothing to a national title contender and he did it with a high powered offense which is exactly what drew all the excitement at UC when Brian Kelly was there.

It worked for Louisville to bring in/back a formerly ousted coach so maybe it could work for UC.

(10-06-2016 01:40 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  Here’s an idea for UC’s next coach …….. Art Briles.

He was terminated at Baylor for the sexual assault suit but he was never convicted of anything personally. Only that he didn’t have institutional control over his team.

I don't know much about the whole story of what went on there but what I do know is he built Baylor up from nothing to a national title contender and he did it with a high powered offense which is exactly what drew all the excitement at UC when Brian Kelly was there.

It worked for Louisville to bring in/back a formerly ousted coach so maybe it could work for UC.

Yeahhhhhhhh.... I'd scrap the football program before wanting him to be associated with it.

(10-06-2016 01:57 PM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 01:40 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  Here’s an idea for UC’s next coach …….. Art Briles.

He was terminated at Baylor for the sexual assault suit but he was never convicted of anything personally. Only that he didn’t have institutional control over his team.

I don't know much about the whole story of what went on there but what I do know is he built Baylor up from nothing to a national title contender and he did it with a high powered offense which is exactly what drew all the excitement at UC when Brian Kelly was there.

It worked for Louisville to bring in/back a formerly ousted coach so maybe it could work for UC.

Yeahhhhhhhh.... I'd scrap the football program before wanting him to be associated with it.

Whoever ends up with Briles is probably going to get Petrino like results so it's a matter of prioritizing. I tend to agree with you from my understanding of what went on at Baylor, but I will say that Briles has been a bit of a scapegoat for what was an institution wide failure. That said, as head of the football program his role in it can't be denied either.

(10-06-2016 01:40 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  Here’s an idea for UC’s next coach …….. Art Briles.

He was terminated at Baylor for the sexual assault suit but he was never convicted of anything personally. Only that he didn’t have institutional control over his team.

I don't know much about the whole story of what went on there but what I do know is he built Baylor up from nothing to a national title contender and he did it with a high powered offense which is exactly what drew all the excitement at UC when Brian Kelly was there.

It worked for Louisville to bring in/back a formerly ousted coach so maybe it could work for UC.

I wouldn't complain. Heck, I would respect our administration's huevos for making the call.

(10-06-2016 02:03 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 01:57 PM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 01:40 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  Here’s an idea for UC’s next coach …….. Art Briles.

He was terminated at Baylor for the sexual assault suit but he was never convicted of anything personally. Only that he didn’t have institutional control over his team.

I don't know much about the whole story of what went on there but what I do know is he built Baylor up from nothing to a national title contender and he did it with a high powered offense which is exactly what drew all the excitement at UC when Brian Kelly was there.

It worked for Louisville to bring in/back a formerly ousted coach so maybe it could work for UC.

Yeahhhhhhhh.... I'd scrap the football program before wanting him to be associated with it.

Whoever ends up with Briles is probably going to get Petrino like results so it's a matter of prioritizing. I tend to agree with you from my understanding of what went on at Baylor, but I will say that Briles has been a bit of a scapegoat for what was an institution wide failure. That said, as head of the football program his role in it can't be denied either.

Big difference between Petrino and Briles. Petrino got busted for cattin' around then lying when he got caught. Briles recruited degenerates and ran interference to keep them out of trouble when they sexually assaulted coeds.

(10-06-2016 01:57 PM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 01:40 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  Here’s an idea for UC’s next coach …….. Art Briles.

He was terminated at Baylor for the sexual assault suit but he was never convicted of anything personally. Only that he didn’t have institutional control over his team.

I don't know much about the whole story of what went on there but what I do know is he built Baylor up from nothing to a national title contender and he did it with a high powered offense which is exactly what drew all the excitement at UC when Brian Kelly was there.

It worked for Louisville to bring in/back a formerly ousted coach so maybe it could work for UC.

Yeahhhhhhhh.... I'd scrap the football program before wanting him to be associated with it.

That sums it up for me as well. Not interested.

(10-06-2016 02:23 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 02:03 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 01:57 PM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 01:40 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  Here’s an idea for UC’s next coach …….. Art Briles.

He was terminated at Baylor for the sexual assault suit but he was never convicted of anything personally. Only that he didn’t have institutional control over his team.

I don't know much about the whole story of what went on there but what I do know is he built Baylor up from nothing to a national title contender and he did it with a high powered offense which is exactly what drew all the excitement at UC when Brian Kelly was there.

It worked for Louisville to bring in/back a formerly ousted coach so maybe it could work for UC.

Yeahhhhhhhh.... I'd scrap the football program before wanting him to be associated with it.

Whoever ends up with Briles is probably going to get Petrino like results so it's a matter of prioritizing. I tend to agree with you from my understanding of what went on at Baylor, but I will say that Briles has been a bit of a scapegoat for what was an institution wide failure. That said, as head of the football program his role in it can't be denied either.

Big difference between Petrino and Briles. Petrino got busted for cattin' around then lying when he got caught. Briles recruited degenerates and ran interference to keep them out of trouble when they sexually assaulted coeds.

Agree with this. No one has been privy to the independent counsel report from Baylor except for it's board. I have to think Briles getting fired means there was a lot going on that he could have stood up for and stopped. No way I would want him at UC.

(10-06-2016 02:56 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 02:23 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 02:03 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 01:57 PM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 01:40 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  Here’s an idea for UC’s next coach …….. Art Briles.

He was terminated at Baylor for the sexual assault suit but he was never convicted of anything personally. Only that he didn’t have institutional control over his team.

I don't know much about the whole story of what went on there but what I do know is he built Baylor up from nothing to a national title contender and he did it with a high powered offense which is exactly what drew all the excitement at UC when Brian Kelly was there.

It worked for Louisville to bring in/back a formerly ousted coach so maybe it could work for UC.

Yeahhhhhhhh.... I'd scrap the football program before wanting him to be associated with it.

Whoever ends up with Briles is probably going to get Petrino like results so it's a matter of prioritizing. I tend to agree with you from my understanding of what went on at Baylor, but I will say that Briles has been a bit of a scapegoat for what was an institution wide failure. That said, as head of the football program his role in it can't be denied either.

Big difference between Petrino and Briles. Petrino got busted for cattin' around then lying when he got caught. Briles recruited degenerates and ran interference to keep them out of trouble when they sexually assaulted coeds.

Agree with this. No one has been privy to the independent counsel report from Baylor except for it's board. I have to think Briles getting fired means there was a lot going on that he could have stood up for and stopped. No way I would want him at UC.

There's a pretty good summary of the findings released by Baylor. They indicate pretty wide ranging, institutional fault. Briles has become the public face of it as the head coach, but from the reading of what's out there it's probably unfair to call this a Briles thing. http://www.baylor.edu/rtsv/doc.php/266596.pdf

(10-06-2016 03:17 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 02:56 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 02:23 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 02:03 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 01:57 PM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  Yeahhhhhhhh.... I'd scrap the football program before wanting him to be associated with it.

Whoever ends up with Briles is probably going to get Petrino like results so it's a matter of prioritizing. I tend to agree with you from my understanding of what went on at Baylor, but I will say that Briles has been a bit of a scapegoat for what was an institution wide failure. That said, as head of the football program his role in it can't be denied either.

Big difference between Petrino and Briles. Petrino got busted for cattin' around then lying when he got caught. Briles recruited degenerates and ran interference to keep them out of trouble when they sexually assaulted coeds.

Agree with this. No one has been privy to the independent counsel report from Baylor except for it's board. I have to think Briles getting fired means there was a lot going on that he could have stood up for and stopped. No way I would want him at UC.

There's a pretty good summary of the findings released by Baylor. They indicate pretty wide ranging, institutional fault. Briles has become the public face of it as the head coach, but from the reading of what's out there it's probably unfair to call this a Briles thing. http://www.baylor.edu/rtsv/doc.php/266596.pdf

But it sounds like he either was actively involved in covering things up or at least knew it was going on and let it go on. Seems pretty Paterno-like to me. Either way, I don't want him here.

(10-06-2016 03:17 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 02:56 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 02:23 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 02:03 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 01:57 PM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  Yeahhhhhhhh.... I'd scrap the football program before wanting him to be associated with it.

Whoever ends up with Briles is probably going to get Petrino like results so it's a matter of prioritizing. I tend to agree with you from my understanding of what went on at Baylor, but I will say that Briles has been a bit of a scapegoat for what was an institution wide failure. That said, as head of the football program his role in it can't be denied either.

Big difference between Petrino and Briles. Petrino got busted for cattin' around then lying when he got caught. Briles recruited degenerates and ran interference to keep them out of trouble when they sexually assaulted coeds.

Agree with this. No one has been privy to the independent counsel report from Baylor except for it's board. I have to think Briles getting fired means there was a lot going on that he could have stood up for and stopped. No way I would want him at UC.

There's a pretty good summary of the findings released by Baylor. They indicate pretty wide ranging, institutional fault. Briles has become the public face of it as the head coach, but from the reading of what's out there it's probably unfair to call this a Briles thing. http://www.baylor.edu/rtsv/doc.php/266596.pdf

My bad. I thought I saw somewhere since Baylor is private they did not release the report. Maybe it said the full report. I will take some time and read through this. Thanks.

(10-06-2016 03:28 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 03:17 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 02:56 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 02:23 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 02:03 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Whoever ends up with Briles is probably going to get Petrino like results so it's a matter of prioritizing. I tend to agree with you from my understanding of what went on at Baylor, but I will say that Briles has been a bit of a scapegoat for what was an institution wide failure. That said, as head of the football program his role in it can't be denied either.

Big difference between Petrino and Briles. Petrino got busted for cattin' around then lying when he got caught. Briles recruited degenerates and ran interference to keep them out of trouble when they sexually assaulted coeds.

Agree with this. No one has been privy to the independent counsel report from Baylor except for it's board. I have to think Briles getting fired means there was a lot going on that he could have stood up for and stopped. No way I would want him at UC.

There's a pretty good summary of the findings released by Baylor. They indicate pretty wide ranging, institutional fault. Briles has become the public face of it as the head coach, but from the reading of what's out there it's probably unfair to call this a Briles thing. http://www.baylor.edu/rtsv/doc.php/266596.pdf

But it sounds like he either was actively involved in covering things up or at least knew it was going on and let it go on. Seems pretty Paterno-like to me. Either way, I don't want him here.

As I stated before, I agree with the sentiment. My only point is that though Briles is the face of it when you actually dig deeper it sounds like much more of an institution problem than a Briles problem specifically. As head football coach Briles certainly is tarnished by it and rightfully so.

(10-06-2016 03:39 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 03:28 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 03:17 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 02:56 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 02:23 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  Big difference between Petrino and Briles. Petrino got busted for cattin' around then lying when he got caught. Briles recruited degenerates and ran interference to keep them out of trouble when they sexually assaulted coeds.

Agree with this. No one has been privy to the independent counsel report from Baylor except for it's board. I have to think Briles getting fired means there was a lot going on that he could have stood up for and stopped. No way I would want him at UC.

There's a pretty good summary of the findings released by Baylor. They indicate pretty wide ranging, institutional fault. Briles has become the public face of it as the head coach, but from the reading of what's out there it's probably unfair to call this a Briles thing. http://www.baylor.edu/rtsv/doc.php/266596.pdf

But it sounds like he either was actively involved in covering things up or at least knew it was going on and let it go on. Seems pretty Paterno-like to me. Either way, I don't want him here.

As I stated before, I agree with the sentiment. My only point is that though Briles is the face of it when you actually dig deeper it sounds like much more of an institution problem than a Briles problem specifically. As head football coach Briles certainly is tarnished by it and rightfully so.

Oh yeah, you're absolutely right that it's also a wider institutional problem. It's hilarious that of all people, Ken Starr was whining about overreach during the investigation.

I'm not sure how true this is. It's coming from unverified twitter accounts so take with a grain of salt. Allegedly Kiel banged one of Coach TT's son's girlfriend. That is what is causing the rift.

(10-10-2016 11:34 AM)Kco17 Wrote:  I'm not sure how true this is. It's coming from unverified twitter accounts so take with a grain of salt. Allegedly Kiel banged one of Coach TT's son's girlfriend. That is what is causing the rift.

Occam's Razor tells me that what you heard is not the case.

"unverified" "twitter" "banged" "Son's girlfriend" ...let me put this trash next to " landed under sniper fire" in Bosnia..

(10-10-2016 11:34 AM)Kco17 Wrote:  I'm not sure how true this is. It's coming from unverified twitter accounts so take with a grain of salt. Allegedly Kiel banged one of Coach TT's son's girlfriend. That is what is causing the rift.

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=83oqlhHnmQY

My god that is rich!

I hope it's true