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NCAA has no room for LU
With the recent action that the NCAA has taken against the state of North Carolina, is there any doubt that it will do all it can to keep Liberty out of FBS and stand in the way of success when possible based on the schools conservative Christian values?

Or am I way off base?
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RE: NCAA has no room for LU
(09-15-2016 08:48 AM)army56mike Wrote:  With the recent action that the NCAA has taken against the state of North Carolina, is there any doubt that it will do all it can to keep Liberty out of FBS and stand in the way of success when possible based on the schools conservative Christian values?

Or am I way off base?

I think you're cray cray. We just need a invite. If we get one and then the NCAA steps in and says nope you can't move up because you are a Christian school then you'd be on to something.
09-15-2016 09:15 AM
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I personally think you're exactly right. liberty, BYU and any other school that holds biblical views on marriage and sexuality will have an uphill battle. Thus is one of the many reasons I believe Liberty's only path to FBS is to go independent and if need be to sue the NCAA. I know there's ramifications if that were to happen, but I don't see a path any other way.

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(09-15-2016 08:48 AM)army56mike Wrote:  With the recent action that the NCAA has taken against the state of North Carolina, is there any doubt that it will do all it can to keep Liberty out of FBS and stand in the way of success when possible based on the schools conservative Christian values?

Or am I way off base?
The NCAA, NBA and more bodies taking a stand against discriminatory actions in NC has ZERO to do with LU.

LU has been it's own worst enemy in actions, endorsements and stances with unwise and simply crazy positions.

Attempting to slant and blame others is playing the martyr card.

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09-15-2016 09:57 AM
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(09-15-2016 09:57 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  
(09-15-2016 08:48 AM)army56mike Wrote:  With the recent action that the NCAA has taken against the state of North Carolina, is there any doubt that it will do all it can to keep Liberty out of FBS and stand in the way of success when possible based on the schools conservative Christian values?

Or am I way off base?
The NCAA, NBA and more bodies taking a stand against discriminatory actions in NC has ZERO to do with LU.

LU has been it's own worst enemy in actions, endorsements and stances with unwise and simply crazy positions.

Attempting to slant and blame others is playing the martyr card.

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Like I said....cray cray
09-15-2016 10:05 AM
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(09-15-2016 09:15 AM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  
(09-15-2016 08:48 AM)army56mike Wrote:  With the recent action that the NCAA has taken against the state of North Carolina, is there any doubt that it will do all it can to keep Liberty out of FBS and stand in the way of success when possible based on the schools conservative Christian values?

Or am I way off base?

I think you're cray cray. We just need a invite. If we get one and then the NCAA steps in and says nope you can't move up because you are a Christian school then you'd be on to something.
The issue is, we're not going to get an invite. 5 years from we'll still be having this conversation. The bottom line is progressive thinking presidents will never be comfortable voting Liberty into their conference. The SB was the perfect example.

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I don't think Liberty is being shunned by the NCAA, at least not yet. However, I think conferences and/or school presidents are probably disregarding Liberty due to their beliefs and views. But, Liberty has things that they really need to improve (and they're working on it) like academic prestige, big money sport results (football, men's basketball, baseball, women's basketball, etc.), fan following, media coverage, etc. Liberty can't change it's location but it's location isn't a negative in my opinion.

I find it highly ironic that a big negative of Liberty is it's online diploma mill perception where Liberty embraces the future of online academics compared to the perception of Liberty's beliefs being considered "living in the past." Quite the contradiction in my opinion.

It is a fear of mine that the NCAA would kick out schools with discriminatory policies which they'd mostly argue that Liberty has some. I hope it would never come to this but there are those who want to see this happen.
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Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Oxford—Once Christian?

The demise of former Christian universities should be a lesson to individuals, churches, Christian colleges and universities, and seminaries to stand firm on the Bible’s clear teachings and beware of any doctrine that is not biblically sound.
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Saw that Liberty was voted most conservative U. thus year. So at least we've got that going for us. Holding strong to our values, Training Champions for Christ!
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I was thinking yesterday, is there any like minded school that is currently paying FBS football? I couldn't come up with any. Baylor is what I would consider quasi Christian. BYU probably is like us in regards to student conduct, but certainly not like minded in doctrinal beliefs. Liberty is kinda on an island. I for one hope we never compromise those doctrinal beliefs.

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