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RE: NCAA has no room for LU
(12-02-2016 07:44 AM)acc4life Wrote:  
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(12-02-2016 06:43 AM)GE and MTS Wrote:  
(12-02-2016 06:27 AM)acc4life Wrote:  That won't happen, because you would have the biggest lawsuit ever.

As far as invites go, JMU had the invite; however, they were dragging their feet at the time, so they lost it to Coastal Carolina (you guys didn't have the necessary facilities at the time).

Also, I don't think the NCAA is anti sectarian/non-secular; they just don't support state governments enacting anti LBGT laws, when the trend, federally, is protecting their rights.

That is not true. Our facilities are among the best in FCS, if not the best including better than Coastal Carolina. We were not passed over due to facilities unless (and more likely) we had too many good facilities and the Sun Belt was afraid of us outspending everyone else.


I'm talking about FBS level facilities.

I read several articles which stated that your football stadium and facilities didn't meet FBS requirements at the time and JMU's did; in fact, JMU is the only FCS stadium that currently meets FBS standards (all they have to do is add a second level to their "visitor side," thereby adding the 5,000+ seats to meet the FBS 30,000 seat requirement). You're stadium doesn't even hold 20,000, so tell me again how your facilities meet FBS standards; if you guys want to believe there is an anti sectarian vendetta being waged by the NCAA, go have a chat with Baylor, TCU and SMU.


Isn't the seating requirement like 15k? I could be wrong but the rules from ancient times after the FBS/FCS split were 30k which hasn't applied in sometime.


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The 15k requirement is for average yearly attendance (which has to be met once every two years). I figure the 30k thing was an old BCS/AQ conference thing, because all the BCS conferences were over 30k and the AAC (old Big East) still has that requirement. I guess if you're satisfied being in the CUSA, you can have a 15k person stadium like FIU and FAU. BTW, the reason JMU passed on the Sun Belt, was because they wanted to be in a better conference.

Coastal Carolina has half the capacity as Liberty for football. Their stadium is under 10,000 but plans to expand to 25,000 or so if I remember correctly. Liberty is just waiting for an invite to start their upgrade as well. The stadium has plans to upgrade in phases with an ultimate goal of 60,000 or so.

I don't think any FCS school recently upgraded had a capacity of 30,000 when invited with Georgia State as an exception (Georgia Dome).
12-02-2016 07:02 PM
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RE: NCAA has no room for LU
(12-02-2016 07:02 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  
(12-02-2016 07:44 AM)acc4life Wrote:  
(12-02-2016 07:26 AM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  
(12-02-2016 07:14 AM)acc4life Wrote:  
(12-02-2016 06:43 AM)GE and MTS Wrote:  That is not true. Our facilities are among the best in FCS, if not the best including better than Coastal Carolina. We were not passed over due to facilities unless (and more likely) we had too many good facilities and the Sun Belt was afraid of us outspending everyone else.


I'm talking about FBS level facilities.

I read several articles which stated that your football stadium and facilities didn't meet FBS requirements at the time and JMU's did; in fact, JMU is the only FCS stadium that currently meets FBS standards (all they have to do is add a second level to their "visitor side," thereby adding the 5,000+ seats to meet the FBS 30,000 seat requirement). You're stadium doesn't even hold 20,000, so tell me again how your facilities meet FBS standards; if you guys want to believe there is an anti sectarian vendetta being waged by the NCAA, go have a chat with Baylor, TCU and SMU.


Isn't the seating requirement like 15k? I could be wrong but the rules from ancient times after the FBS/FCS split were 30k which hasn't applied in sometime.


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The 15k requirement is for average yearly attendance (which has to be met once every two years). I figure the 30k thing was an old BCS/AQ conference thing, because all the BCS conferences were over 30k and the AAC (old Big East) still has that requirement. I guess if you're satisfied being in the CUSA, you can have a 15k person stadium like FIU and FAU. BTW, the reason JMU passed on the Sun Belt, was because they wanted to be in a better conference.

Coastal Carolina has half the capacity as Liberty for football. Their stadium is under 10,000 but plans to expand to 25,000 or so if I remember correctly. Liberty is just waiting for an invite to start their upgrade as well. The stadium has plans to upgrade in phases with an ultimate goal of 60,000 or so.

I don't think any FCS school recently upgraded had a capacity of 30,000 when invited with Georgia State as an exception (Georgia Dome).

CCU is looking at about 21k after expansion
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Liberty needs to be in the AAC. That is not an option. But that is the conference with most similar teams.
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RE: NCAA has no room for LU
(12-03-2016 06:12 AM)army56mike Wrote:  Liberty needs to be in the AAC. That is not an option. But that is the conference with most similar teams.

I like the AAC. They are clearly the strongest G5 in football while having respectable basketball. If we weren't in a P5 conference, I'd like to be in the AAC or a football independent with our other sports in the Big East (or A10 if we couldn't get into the Big East). Obviously clear long shots at this point but something to shoot for.
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Playing sports in the Big East would be awesome. Did the Big East keep the right to re-establish football like the WAC did?
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(12-04-2016 09:03 AM)army56mike Wrote:  Playing sports in the Big East would be awesome. Did the Big East keep the right to re-establish football like the WAC did?


Short answer no. Slightly longer answer is the current Big East is actually only a few years old with zero to no ties to the old Big East but in name only. The real Big East is a conference called the AAC....you may of heard of it 03-razz


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How soon we forget. Yep, I remember that.
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