(09-15-2016 08:29 AM)Teamduh Wrote:  For me #20 needs to take better angles on the ball. He left 2 interceptions on the field last week and didn't get a hand on the ball of either. This is instinct and you can see it with Lurry who, although undersized can compete with larger athletes due to his superior instincts. If 20 doesn't improve quickly we would need a change.

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#20
His name is Allen
Can't be much of a fan or observer or even critic if you don't even know his name.
I'm sure he'll take your advice on taking the correct angles on tackles.
Might just help solidify his ranking as the top tackler on the team which he is at the moment.

(09-15-2016 08:46 AM)sportsfan Wrote:  

(09-15-2016 08:29 AM)Teamduh Wrote:  For me #20 needs to take better angles on the ball. He left 2 interceptions on the field last week and didn't get a hand on the ball of either. This is instinct and you can see it with Lurry who, although undersized can compete with larger athletes due to his superior instincts. If 20 doesn't improve quickly we would need a change.

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#20
His name is Allen
Can't be much of a fan or observer or even critic if you don't even know his name.
I'm sure he'll take your advice on taking the correct angles on tackles.
Might just help solidify his ranking as the top tackler on the team which he is at the moment.

Regardless of knowing his name(there's plenty of new guys on D), 20 has taken some terrible angles(on passes). He may be a tackling machine because our line backers look lost, but he's also been responsible for a few big plays that he should have made

(09-15-2016 08:29 AM)Teamduh Wrote:  For me #20 needs to take better angles on the ball. He left 2 interceptions on the field last week and didn't get a hand on the ball of either. This is instinct and you can see it with Lurry who, although undersized can compete with larger athletes due to his superior instincts. If 20 doesn't improve quickly we would need a change.

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BUIRGE WAS MOVED TO SAFTEY HE IS 6 FT AND ABOUT 200 POUNDS AND IS FAST NOT SURE WHY HE MOVED AND IS NOT PLAYING ?

(09-15-2016 09:08 AM)randy6956 Wrote:  

(09-15-2016 08:29 AM)Teamduh Wrote:  For me #20 needs to take better angles on the ball. He left 2 interceptions on the field last week and didn't get a hand on the ball of either. This is instinct and you can see it with Lurry who, although undersized can compete with larger athletes due to his superior instincts. If 20 doesn't improve quickly we would need a change.

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BUIRGE WAS MOVED TO SAFTEY HE IS 6 FT AND ABOUT 200 POUNDS AND IS FAST NOT SURE WHY HE MOVED AND IS NOT PLAYING ?

He needs to learn the position. This isn't high school, he needs to practice and understand it before you send him out there.

(09-15-2016 08:36 AM)NIU1981 Wrote:  

(09-15-2016 04:24 AM)Suptroop Wrote:  

(09-14-2016 08:25 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(09-14-2016 07:19 PM)SiegInc Wrote:  There needs to be a huge improvement from the OL and DL if we want to have any glimmer of hope.

There needs to be personnel changes or things will stay the same. Pugh needs to be given the chance to show if he can improve the team. The secondary needs to have a couple guys who can cover and tackle better than the last two games. We need ends who can contain, shed blocks, and put pressure on the QB. 70 needs to be replaced on the OL. Every time I look he's getting beat like a drum. We also need to be more aggressive on play calling and going for it on fourth down. I remember at least three occasions where I thought Cary should have gone for it on fourth down. It's like he doesn't want the momentum to turn to his favor. If we don't convert who cares? We were getting destroyed anyways. It seems to me he'd rather lose playing conservatively rather than gambling and losing 60-17. I was upset he kicked a field goal, Like he's happy he only gave up 48 points.

I think it's more the system. Payton has been awesome imo. Folliard is the one I'm seeing struggle a bit. Jones and Johnston show some high level talent. Try Pugh. If the Dl isn't getting penetration we need a heavier load at Lb. Pugh, Payton and Jones/Johnson. Ya, you lose some speed in coverage but at this point doesn't seem to be an issue.

All this is subject to criticism EXCEPT...

Get rid of this horse**** huskie position crap. You're taking kids barely big enough to be safetys and putting them against 310 lb tackles on run downs. Sutton Smith is an athlete to be sure, but he's being manhandled. The huskie position was great for Ford. But you're talking about a kid who was 245lbs of explosive power and speed. There is nobody on the roster that fits that bill...correction (let's see who disagrees) PUT BEN LEROY AT DE. Kid easily has the best step of everyone on the line. Impressive straight line speed. Most impressive freshman physical attributes I've ever seen. What happened to the CC transfer originally from iowa state? Wasn't he running with the ones during spring?


Both Allen and Mays looked better last season. If not a coaching issue, continue to give these other kids a shot.

Seems in years past we've utalized true freshman a ton more (even when we didn't need to). Is it lack of talent from this past class or just no need? Really a shame we've only seem two hbs tote the rock. Gotta find a way to get these offensive players the ball. Brown, Jones, Minster and Safford (kid needs to be given more of a chance). Lastly, still think every snap JB takes is a wasted snap.

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I was thinking the same thing. Perez Ford was able to hold up against the run but the guys we're putting there now are getting killed. And Leroy, while currently small for a tackle, could be a monster at end.

Meeks was with the twos in spring. Dunbar and Fleming were the ones. But yeah, he was out there and looked OK. You would think he could at least help in running downs. I'm also not sure where Rajshawn Mosely went. After playing a lot the last two years he has not been on the field this year. If they could get him back in the tackle rotation maybe they could move Leroy to end.

(09-15-2016 09:21 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(09-15-2016 09:08 AM)randy6956 Wrote:  

(09-15-2016 08:29 AM)Teamduh Wrote:  For me #20 needs to take better angles on the ball. He left 2 interceptions on the field last week and didn't get a hand on the ball of either. This is instinct and you can see it with Lurry who, although undersized can compete with larger athletes due to his superior instincts. If 20 doesn't improve quickly we would need a change.

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BUIRGE WAS MOVED TO SAFTEY HE IS 6 FT AND ABOUT 200 POUNDS AND IS FAST NOT SURE WHY HE MOVED AND IS NOT PLAYING ?

He needs to learn the position. This isn't high school, he needs to practice and understand it before you send him out there.

agreed not sure how long he has been at safety but he looks the size and speed so maybe IDK

I understand that NIU will not recruit LBs that are 6'3" 235 lbs out of high school who can run. We take 6'0" 195 safeties and bulk them up to 210- 215. At point of attack, size and strength matter. Moving Leroy to end is a nice idea. He is "big" for an end in our system and appears to have quickness. Get him into space where he is working one on one with a big and slow tackle.

(09-14-2016 08:00 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(09-14-2016 07:19 PM)SiegInc Wrote:  There needs to be a huge improvement from the OL and DL if we want to have any glimmer of hope.

The O-line hasn't been terrible. From what Ive seen, they're more of a finesse line than a power line. They're pass blocking has been decent. Especially the tackles. The issue has been they're push in the run game. especially Ruka and Shively up the middle. Im hoping they pass heavily early to set up the run this week.

D-line is the opposite. The middle has been solid, the ends are a weakness. Part of the blame is the conservative game plan. Im not sure why they think they can rush 4, and sometimes 3 and not get burnt give the Q all day to throw or room to run. Having to bring help and rush 5 or 6 isn't ideal, but it's no secret to compensating for a lack of rush ends.

Yea I especially wondered about rushing 3 when we never get to the QB rushing 4 and it always results in a long completion anyway.

(09-15-2016 11:16 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(09-14-2016 08:00 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(09-14-2016 07:19 PM)SiegInc Wrote:  There needs to be a huge improvement from the OL and DL if we want to have any glimmer of hope.

The O-line hasn't been terrible. From what Ive seen, they're more of a finesse line than a power line. They're pass blocking has been decent. Especially the tackles. The issue has been they're push in the run game. especially Ruka and Shively up the middle. Im hoping they pass heavily early to set up the run this week.

D-line is the opposite. The middle has been solid, the ends are a weakness. Part of the blame is the conservative game plan. Im not sure why they think they can rush 4, and sometimes 3 and not get burnt give the Q all day to throw or room to run. Having to bring help and rush 5 or 6 isn't ideal, but it's no secret to compensating for a lack of rush ends.

Yea I especially wondered about rushing 3 when we never get to the QB rushing 4 and it always results in a long completion anyway.

The only rationale thought I could come up with is they've over valued the secondary. Thought they could cover for more than 3 seconds. They can't cover for 2 seconds. I really hope they come out aggressive Saturday. Much like Wyoming did to us. Blitzed every down.

(09-14-2016 09:24 PM)randy6956 Wrote:  

(09-14-2016 08:25 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(09-14-2016 07:19 PM)SiegInc Wrote:  There needs to be a huge improvement from the OL and DL if we want to have any glimmer of hope.

There needs to be personnel changes or things will stay the same. Pugh needs to be given the chance to show if he can improve the team. The secondary needs to have a couple guys who can cover and tackle better than the last two games. We need ends who can contain, shed blocks, and put pressure on the QB. 70 needs to be replaced on the OL. Every time I look he's getting beat like a drum. We also need to be more aggressive on play calling and going for it on fourth down. I remember at least three occasions where I thought Cary should have gone for it on fourth down. It's like he doesn't want the momentum to turn to his favor. If we don't convert who cares? We were getting destroyed anyways. It seems to me he'd rather lose playing conservatively rather than gambling and losing 60-17. I was upset he kicked a field goal, Like he's happy he only gave up 48 points.

Personnel changes ?? Do you think we have big time talent on our bench and the staff just does not want to put them in ?? How well do you know the players please make some suggestions as to who we are going to put in at DB and our lines as you suggest ??

They don't start Huff do they? Not sure why you'd just assume they're making the right call at other positions.

(09-15-2016 11:47 AM)Huskies2006 Wrote:  

(09-14-2016 09:24 PM)randy6956 Wrote:  

(09-14-2016 08:25 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(09-14-2016 07:19 PM)SiegInc Wrote:  There needs to be a huge improvement from the OL and DL if we want to have any glimmer of hope.

There needs to be personnel changes or things will stay the same. Pugh needs to be given the chance to show if he can improve the team. The secondary needs to have a couple guys who can cover and tackle better than the last two games. We need ends who can contain, shed blocks, and put pressure on the QB. 70 needs to be replaced on the OL. Every time I look he's getting beat like a drum. We also need to be more aggressive on play calling and going for it on fourth down. I remember at least three occasions where I thought Cary should have gone for it on fourth down. It's like he doesn't want the momentum to turn to his favor. If we don't convert who cares? We were getting destroyed anyways. It seems to me he'd rather lose playing conservatively rather than gambling and losing 60-17. I was upset he kicked a field goal, Like he's happy he only gave up 48 points.

Personnel changes ?? Do you think we have big time talent on our bench and the staff just does not want to put them in ?? How well do you know the players please make some suggestions as to who we are going to put in at DB and our lines as you suggest ??

They don't start Huff do they? Not sure why you'd just assume they're making the right call at other positions.

Huff has seen a lot of playing time though. Coaches seem to have let him out of the dog house. hopefully his blocking has improved, I am not sophisticated enough to be able to tell when watching and that was holding him back in past years.

It'll be interesting to see how Graham does, now that he's the guy. How is he at going through the progressions, especially compared to Hare? Assuming of course that he gets time to go through his progressions. Anybody with knowledge on that? Just wondering because it seems like if Golladay isn't open we can't complete a pass - well, a few went to Blake.

He did miss a few throws -- one when Gday was wide open and Glasper was open. But then again he made some tough throws. We need a hot QB if we are going to upset SDSU... Sigh.

(09-14-2016 07:03 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  I'm sure nobody is picking NIU to win this one, but I have a feeling that you will see an inspired HUSKIE football team this Saturday. There's no place like home. I'm expecting a good game out of Graham and company.

Refreshing to read a positive post. We might get thumped again on Saturday but maybe we can/will play better.

(09-15-2016 06:03 PM)bikechuck Wrote:  

(09-14-2016 07:03 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  I'm sure nobody is picking NIU to win this one, but I have a feeling that you will see an inspired HUSKIE football team this Saturday. There's no place like home. I'm expecting a good game out of Graham and company.

Refreshing to read a positive post. We might get thumped again on Saturday but maybe we can/will play better.

I'm not a doom and gloom poster. NIU still has one of the best home records in college football for the last ten years. If they were playing them on the road, I'd say not a chance. NIU should be 1-1 right now. Wyoming was a fluke. If we played Wyoming at home we'd win by 15. Everybody has players that play better at home. Should be the same for the Huskies. If it's close going into the 4th quarter we got a 80% chance to beat them. IMO