(09-13-2016 11:49 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(09-13-2016 08:47 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  What is somewhat funny is that UNC has scheduled 2 FCS teams this year and will be in a pickle if they finish 12-1 as ACC champs.
We can rest assured that their election to play 2 cupcakes would be held against them by the playoff selection committee.

Birds of a feather flock together?

Yes you are correct UNC in scheduling this season elected to schedule down a division for 2 games. UNC is DI-A/FBS playing two DI-AA/FCS teams in 2016-2017 season.

Unless you know something I don't JMU has not scheduled down a division in the 2016-2017 schedule. JMU as a DI-AA/FCS team is playing 10 DI-AA/FCS opponents and 1 DI-A/FBS opponent.

If JMU has scheduled a DII school as they did in the past with MM at the helm I too would be concerned with scheduling.....but as long as JMU is not scheduling down, which would severely harm JMU at playoff selection time, you really don't have a point with regard to post-season selection.

While it probably doesn't hurt us from a playoff point of view, playing any team having fewer schollies than a full slate FCS allotment is playing down and does us no good from a fan's enjoyment of the game. Yes, this is my opinion and I know there are some, like yourself, who would be perfectly happy playing 10 teams who field less than 63 schollies in order to be guaranteed a birth in the playoffs.

Our playoff seeding won't be impacted by how we did against MSU and CCU, but rather how we do against our stronger conference opponents. MSU and CCU are both wins that count.

How we do against UNC will only matter if we make a really good showing against them. That would strengthen our case. Losing large won't hurt us because we are supposed to lose large.

(09-13-2016 12:34 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(09-13-2016 11:49 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(09-13-2016 08:47 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  What is somewhat funny is that UNC has scheduled 2 FCS teams this year and will be in a pickle if they finish 12-1 as ACC champs.
We can rest assured that their election to play 2 cupcakes would be held against them by the playoff selection committee.

Birds of a feather flock together?

Yes you are correct UNC in scheduling this season elected to schedule down a division for 2 games. UNC is DI-A/FBS playing two DI-AA/FCS teams in 2016-2017 season.

Unless you know something I don't JMU has not scheduled down a division in the 2016-2017 schedule. JMU as a DI-AA/FCS team is playing 10 DI-AA/FCS opponents and 1 DI-A/FBS opponent.

If JMU has scheduled a DII school as they did in the past with MM at the helm I too would be concerned with scheduling.....but as long as JMU is not scheduling down, which would severely harm JMU at playoff selection time, you really don't have a point with regard to post-season selection.

While it probably doesn't hurt us from a playoff point of view, playing any team having fewer schollies than a full slate FCS allotment is playing down and does us no good from a fan's enjoyment of the game. Yes, this is my opinion and I know there are some, like yourself, who would be perfectly happy playing 10 teams who field less than 63 schollies in order to be guaranteed a birth in the playoffs.

What are you talking about......you must know something once again that I do not.....I thought JMU played in the CAA which currently has I think 5 teams ranked in the top 25 FCS polls and a few others just outside the top 25. How does playing a tough conference slate correlate with playing 10 teams who field less than 63 schollies? That statement makes absolutely no sense.

JMU plays an 11 game schedule this year and plays 2 teams from lesser conferences, but still conferences where the winner is a guaranteed playoff berth. You never know which teams will win those conferences when they are scheduled. Dang I hope WVU does not suck in 2019 or you will be banging on JMU for scheduling a weak FBS game.

(09-13-2016 12:38 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  Our playoff seeding won't be impacted by how we did against MSU and CCU, but rather how we do against our stronger conference opponents. MSU and CCU are both wins that count.

How we do against UNC will only matter if we make a really good showing against them. That would strengthen our case. Losing large won't hurt us because we are supposed to lose large.

If we are a top 10 FCS school, we shouldn't be "losing large" to anyone outside of the best of the best in FBS. UNC is an unranked FBS program. If we are one of the top FCS schools in the country, we should be competitive into the 4th quarter. We'll be the underdog but the idea of being content with a 3 TD+ loss to UNC will be disappointing.

(09-13-2016 10:38 PM)DolleyMadison Wrote:  

(09-13-2016 12:38 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  Our playoff seeding won't be impacted by how we did against MSU and CCU, but rather how we do against our stronger conference opponents. MSU and CCU are both wins that count.

How we do against UNC will only matter if we make a really good showing against them. That would strengthen our case. Losing large won't hurt us because we are supposed to lose large.

If we are a top 10 FCS school, we shouldn't be "losing large" to anyone outside of the best of the best in FBS. UNC is an unranked FBS program. If we are one of the top FCS schools in the country, we should be competitive into the 4th quarter. We'll be the underdog but the idea of being content with a 3 TD+ loss to UNC will be disappointing.

I kind of think that depends on the flow of the game. If the final score is 44-20, but we're in the game most of the way (say, even after 1st quarter, down 7 at half, down 14 after 3, down 24 at end of game), that's a much different story than if we're down the whole game and score in garbage time (say, down 10 after 1st quarter, 24 at half, 31 after 3, then we outscore them by 7 in garbage time).

I'd be okay with scenario #1, but I'd definitely be disappointed with scenario #2

(09-13-2016 08:23 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(09-13-2016 12:34 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(09-13-2016 11:49 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(09-13-2016 08:47 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  What is somewhat funny is that UNC has scheduled 2 FCS teams this year and will be in a pickle if they finish 12-1 as ACC champs.
We can rest assured that their election to play 2 cupcakes would be held against them by the playoff selection committee.

Birds of a feather flock together?

Yes you are correct UNC in scheduling this season elected to schedule down a division for 2 games. UNC is DI-A/FBS playing two DI-AA/FCS teams in 2016-2017 season.

Unless you know something I don't JMU has not scheduled down a division in the 2016-2017 schedule. JMU as a DI-AA/FCS team is playing 10 DI-AA/FCS opponents and 1 DI-A/FBS opponent.

If JMU has scheduled a DII school as they did in the past with MM at the helm I too would be concerned with scheduling.....but as long as JMU is not scheduling down, which would severely harm JMU at playoff selection time, you really don't have a point with regard to post-season selection.

While it probably doesn't hurt us from a playoff point of view, playing any team having fewer schollies than a full slate FCS allotment is playing down and does us no good from a fan's enjoyment of the game. Yes, this is my opinion and I know there are some, like yourself, who would be perfectly happy playing 10 teams who field less than 63 schollies in order to be guaranteed a birth in the playoffs.

What are you talking about......you must know something once again that I do not.....I thought JMU played in the CAA which currently has I think 5 teams ranked in the top 25 FCS polls and a few others just outside the top 25. How does playing a tough conference slate correlate with playing 10 teams who field less than 63 schollies? That statement makes absolutely no sense.

JMU plays an 11 game schedule this year and plays 2 teams from lesser conferences, but still conferences where the winner is a guaranteed playoff berth. You never know which teams will win those conferences when they are scheduled. Dang I hope WVU does not suck in 2019 or you will be banging on JMU for scheduling a weak FBS game.

If your main goal for JMU is to be in the playoffs then it is reasonable to assume you'd love to see the Dukes playing weaker teams across our schedule. I can easily gather, from remarks made, that a few feel JMU would be better off in the Pioneer but want a clause that allows the Dukes to field a team using all 63 schollies while other use less. That is exactly what you want our OOC to look like, why stop there, make it the same across the schedule. You clearly state the main goal is to make the playoffs and to heck with entertainment value during the season.

While you may like going to games where we clearly out-man and out coach the opponent, I do not, and frankly, I'm one of the few who gets tons of enjoyment out of playing a tough, evenly matched (or even JMU being slightly the underdog) all throughout the season. I have no issue scheduling two FBS games with one a P5 and the other one of these three, Marshall, ODU, and Appy, as two of three OOC games. With the third game being against a "Furman/Lehigh" type team and on the years we play four OOC games another "Furman/Lehigh" game.

You make many statements as though you are speaking through JB's mouth, but I know for fact we were negotiating with Arkansas prior to 2015 and almost played the Razorbacks along with the SMU Mustangs in the same season. While both of those teams are not regional to JMU, they do represent the competitive level that I would like to see for my entertainment. I do not care for the Dukes to be playoff bound if we are not a tough, well seasoned, smash mouth, well coached group of young men who can comfortably make it to the final eight teams.

(09-14-2016 08:57 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(09-13-2016 08:23 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(09-13-2016 12:34 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(09-13-2016 11:49 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(09-13-2016 08:47 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  What is somewhat funny is that UNC has scheduled 2 FCS teams this year and will be in a pickle if they finish 12-1 as ACC champs.
We can rest assured that their election to play 2 cupcakes would be held against them by the playoff selection committee.

Birds of a feather flock together?

Yes you are correct UNC in scheduling this season elected to schedule down a division for 2 games. UNC is DI-A/FBS playing two DI-AA/FCS teams in 2016-2017 season.

Unless you know something I don't JMU has not scheduled down a division in the 2016-2017 schedule. JMU as a DI-AA/FCS team is playing 10 DI-AA/FCS opponents and 1 DI-A/FBS opponent.

If JMU has scheduled a DII school as they did in the past with MM at the helm I too would be concerned with scheduling.....but as long as JMU is not scheduling down, which would severely harm JMU at playoff selection time, you really don't have a point with regard to post-season selection.

While it probably doesn't hurt us from a playoff point of view, playing any team having fewer schollies than a full slate FCS allotment is playing down and does us no good from a fan's enjoyment of the game. Yes, this is my opinion and I know there are some, like yourself, who would be perfectly happy playing 10 teams who field less than 63 schollies in order to be guaranteed a birth in the playoffs.

What are you talking about......you must know something once again that I do not.....I thought JMU played in the CAA which currently has I think 5 teams ranked in the top 25 FCS polls and a few others just outside the top 25. How does playing a tough conference slate correlate with playing 10 teams who field less than 63 schollies? That statement makes absolutely no sense.

JMU plays an 11 game schedule this year and plays 2 teams from lesser conferences, but still conferences where the winner is a guaranteed playoff berth. You never know which teams will win those conferences when they are scheduled. Dang I hope WVU does not suck in 2019 or you will be banging on JMU for scheduling a weak FBS game.

If your main goal for JMU is to be in the playoffs then it is reasonable to assume you'd love to see the Dukes playing weaker teams across our schedule. I can easily gather, from remarks made, that a few feel JMU would be better off in the Pioneer but want a clause that allows the Dukes to field a team using all 63 schollies while other use less. That is exactly what you want our OOC to look like, why stop there, make it the same across the schedule. You clearly state the main goal is to make the playoffs and to heck with entertainment value during the season.

While you may like going to games where we clearly out-man and out coach the opponent, I do not, and frankly, I'm one of the few who gets tons of enjoyment out of playing a tough, evenly matched (or even JMU being slightly the underdog) all throughout the season. I have no issue scheduling two FBS games with one a P5 and the other one of these three, Marshall, ODU, and Appy, as two of three OOC games. With the third game being against a "Furman/Lehigh" type team and on the years we play four OOC games another "Furman/Lehigh" game.

You make many statements as though you are speaking through JB's mouth, but I know for fact we were negotiating with Arkansas prior to 2015 and almost played the Razorbacks along with the SMU Mustangs in the same season. While both of those teams are not regional to JMU, they do represent the competitive level that I would like to see for my entertainment. I do not care for the Dukes to be playoff bound if we are not a tough, well seasoned, smash mouth, well coached group of young men who can comfortably make it to the final eight teams.

What, I don't think I have ever said anything like that......what I do is understand why JMU schedules like they do. This is NOT fantasy football and JMU is in the top 5 in FCS attendance so clearly the scheduling has little to no impact on attendance figures. And yeah as long as you play in FCS the #1 goal is to make the playoffs - not personally check with Bleeding Purple that the football team has a home schedule to his liking.

I have said repeatedly I would like one OOC game from NEC/MEAC/Pioneer and one OOC from Patriot/SOCON/BigSouth and one FBS in an 11 game season and in a 12 game season think to get another tougher FCS type team but that game has to be a home-home deal. Whether an 11/12 game season there should be 6 home games.